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[exlogiclad] 02/8/2019 11:55

Minnie is now hunched over his desk trying to compose an answer to my very truthful comments.

His Doctor and others have warned him to calm down, stop the rants, stop the illusins of grandeur, with a very high blood pressure reading off the scale, his anger is ruling his sad little life!

[minerve 2] 02/8/2019 11:53

Your posts are very funny.

[exlogiclad] 02/8/2019 11:51

It will no laughing out loud when they put you in a box for the worms. LOL

[ladeside] 02/8/2019 11:33

I'm just reading that Boris has "unveiled plans for 10 free ports in the uk", however on closer inspection, you'll find this has absolutely nothing to do with Boris, Truss or this cabinet.

[grahamite2] 02/8/2019 11:27

LADESIDE, we keep hearing that, but there's nothing to get through Parliament. It's already the law.

Minerve - you're right, of course. And if simple either/or polls are unreliable, then this one with its host of variables will be much more so.

But one part I have no doubt about whatever is that yet another extension will be disastrous for the Conservative Party - as it will for the country.

[minerve 2] 02/8/2019 11:20

These polls are dubious because we are not seeing that in recent elections and bi-elections. Remain carry the majority generally.

[ladeside] 02/8/2019 11:12

There's no chance that he'll get a "no deal" Brexit through parliament in the first place, so it's all academic..........

[grahamite2] 02/8/2019 11:11

an election after a no-deal Brexit ...would translate into a 64-seat majority for Mr Johnson, with the Conservatives on 357 seats, Labour on 210 and Lib Dems 26, and leave the Brexit Party without any MPs.

Holding a general election before Oct 31 and before Brexit has been delivered would, however, leave the Tories 58 seats short of a majority. That would give no party overall control, according to Electoral Calculus, with the Tories on 268 seats, Labour on 257, the Lib Dems on 42 and the Brexit Party with 25 seats.

The final scenario, leaving with a similar withdrawal agreement as negotiated by Theresa May, would give Labour a three-point lead over the Conservatives on 29 per cent and with 295 seats, but that would still be 31 short of a majority.

[grahamite2] 02/8/2019 11:04

LOL Max, that's exactly the article I was going to link to!

I'll just add this bit:

Extending the Oct 31 deadline after pledging to leave “no ifs, or buts” would be the most catastrophic scenario for the Conservatives, leaving them in third place with just 93 seats and on 22 per cent, behind Labour on 28 per cent (225 seats) and the Brexit Party (170 seats).

[maxk] 02/8/2019 10:54

Boris Johnson will only secure a Commons majority if UK leaves with no deal on Oct 31, says poll







Charles Hymas, home affairs editor Charis St Clair Fisher
1 AUGUST 2019 • 8:30PM



Boris Johnson will only secure a Commons majority at the next election if he goes to the country after a no-deal Brexit, a poll has revealed.

The Conservatives would have a seven-point lead over Labour and neuter support for the Brexit Party if the Prime Minister held an election after a no-deal Brexit, according to the ComRes analysis.

In all other scenarios - including an election before Brexit or after extending the deadline or after leaving with an agreement similar to Theresa May’s - the Conservatives would be left without a majority.

Ben Walker, founder of Britain Elects, which commissioned ComRes, said: “The polling does show how in the event of a no-deal Brexit Leave voters would coalesce...



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[poikka] 02/8/2019 10:53

"Carney's comments came after a leaked government document suggested a no-deal Brexit could trigger "consumer panic", food shortages, and an increased security threat within a fortnight.

The slide, prepared for ministers and obtained by Sky News, says the pound could fall in the first month, while Northern Ireland may face law and order challenges.

The outgoing Bank of England boss said the "challenges" posed by a no-deal departure from the EU should not be played down.

Sky reported that its leaked slide was prepared in the final weeks of Theresa May's tenure as prime minister.

PA understands that the document was shown to ministers but not signed off by the government, meaning it was not official policy."

Good ol' Treeza, determined to ease the path of her successor.

[alphorn] 02/8/2019 10:53

The timing of a clown.

[grahamite2] 02/8/2019 10:50

Obviously it was a strange decision to re-run the candidate whose conduct caused the bye election in the first place.

What I wonder is, how many votes were lost to The Brexit Party as a direct result of Boris's remarks just two days earlier about staying in the Customs Union and single market 2 years? The timing seems incredibly maladroit.

[alphorn] 02/8/2019 10:48

Domestics down, GBP down. No surprises so back on travels.
The question remains when to close.

[ladeside] 02/8/2019 10:39

Carney seems to be stepping up the rhetoric big time.

I doubt he's already purchased all his Euros and Dollars and is shorting the markets........

[montyhedge] 02/8/2019 10:26

Massive support and resistance at 50p, if broken 47p quite quickly coming weeks.

[minerve 2] 02/8/2019 10:09

That is the problem with career politicians. They have no career to turn to other than what they already have. It means, quite simply, they can be 'bought' more easily.

[minerve 2] 02/8/2019 10:07

"We can be sure that any MP's own future will be his priority."

Maybe for some, but not all. Some MPs are men/women of principle. Unlike the current government.

[careful] 02/8/2019 10:06

Yes a complex parliament.
We can be sure that any MP's own future will be his priority.
Both a the main parties MP's will fear losing their seats in a general election.
..so maybe for the most devious of reasons the government may not be brought down.

[minerve 2] 02/8/2019 10:05

parliament voted AGAINST No Deal. Remember???????

LOL

[minerve 2] 02/8/2019 10:04

Referendum is only answer and it should be No Deal vs Remain.

We can then get on to voting for the party we want on the more important issues rather than worrying about olive skin counts in Mansfield.