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[diku] 21/12/2019 18:58

After all this rain here comes the potholes...wait for the Jan/Feb frost to set in...

[sentimentrules] 21/12/2019 18:56

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Too many Mercs, BMWs and Audis on London roads...a bit like 20 years ago when there were too many Fords and Vauxhalls on the road...those 3 stoogies are becoming a common car...

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Been a common car for a long time. When I had little I used to buy these. Because the used market was flooded with them. The rich want new ones. The middle class wanted the small one with a merc badge, and the bigger ones had no used market , maybe due to fuel consumption or insurance

You could pick them up for nought.

[hodhasharon] 21/12/2019 18:29

Lloy 88p Feb 11th 2020

[freddie01] 21/12/2019 18:27

Has Nicola Sturgeon met her match in Boris Johnson?

[diku] 21/12/2019 18:23

Too many Mercs, BMWs and Audis on London roads...a bit like 20 years ago when there were too many Fords and Vauxhalls on the road...those 3 stoogies are becoming a common car...

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2019 18:12

Germany is The Brute. Boycott goods and products from the EUSSR. Particularly German stuff.

[alphorn] 21/12/2019 18:11

………;......……;…..and here is the WTO parrot on cue. Lol

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2019 18:10

Brussels. The Heart of Darkness.LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2019 18:08

It means s No Deal is a real possibility. What it says on the can.LEAVE and WTO

[alphorn] 21/12/2019 18:07

hernando - so your epistle does not permit anyone to work or retire abroad.

You are one sad nutter.

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2019 18:06

But through the complexity. If it is good enough for JRM, it is good enough for me.

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2019 18:02

My view. Put up with a bit of Brino for a year and then No Deal.LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2019 18:01

The Withdrawal Bill passes, but the EU's divorce bill still standsWhatever is passed in Parliament, has everyone forgotten what the EU-UK Treaty says??© Brexit Facts4EU.OrgIn January, Boris's Withdrawal Agreement becomes an International TreatyThe EU Withdrawal Bill was finally been passed at second reading in the House of Commons yesterday, three-and-a-half years after the British people voted to leave the EU. A pro-Brexit government has "a stonking majority", the Grieves, Soubrys and Umunnas are seeking alternmative employment, and there are only four days until Christmas.Not only that, but Boris Johnson is committing in law to leaving the EU completely on 31 Dec 2020.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYYesterday in Parliament Boris Johnson said that:"This will be with no alignment on EU rules, but instead with control of our own laws, and close and friendly relations."This vision of the United Kingdom's independence, a vision that inspires so many, is now, if this new Parliament allows, only hours from our grasp. The oven is on. It is set at gas mark 4; we can have this done by lunchtime - or a late lunchtime."The new deal that I negotiated with our European friends will restore our great institutions to their rightful place as the supreme instruments of British self-governance. Once again, this House will be the only assembly able to legislate for this United Kingdom, and British courts will be the sole arbiters of those laws, and above them all will be the sovereign British people, masters of their own fate, controlling their own borders, laws, money and trade."No wonder Brexiteers are in good cheer.There's just one problem : the international Treaty which Mr Johnson will sign with the EU next monthWe are not lawyers, but then we have actually read the "Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration", and we discussed it with a British barrister based in Brussels. We even produced one of our famous "one-pagers" on it, the day after it was published by the EU.The government has said nothing about further re-negotiation of these documents, which will in effect become an International Treaty between the United Kingdom and the European Union in a few weeks' time.?Click to enlargeIt is therefore understood that the obligations, rights and responsibilities contained in the documents issued by the EU on 12 November 2019 in the Official Journal of the European Union will stand as drafted and agreed.The Prime Minister will be signing a binding International Treaty with the EU.The two big questions are therefore:What happens when the terms of this Treaty contradict what the UK Government puts into law in the UK?What happens when this Treaty contradicts what Mr Johnson has told Parliament and the British people?Why is no-one asking about the EU's outrageous "Divorce Bill"?As an example of what Mr Johnson will be signing up to, the EU's demands for financial compensation from the UK are stipulated in the Withdrawal Agreement agreed by Mr Johnson, along with all the other obligations. It is the EU who will decide the sum.According to the new Treaty, the UK will still have financial obligations to the EU for well over half a century. We have published the details on this before, but if readers wish they can plough through Articles 138-144, and 152-155, which relate to this one matter alone.OBSERVATIONSThe direction of travel from the Prime Minister is extremely welcome, regardless of our article above. We are now in a much better place than we were only six months ago.As readers are planning and shopping for the Christmas period, it is possibly not the best time to run an article which brings us all back down to earth. In the end we decided it was better to say something, as this is potentially so serious. Someone has to do it.We should all be thrilled that things are moving in the right direction after all these years, but Brexit is not yet done. And the fallout if Mr Johnson signs the Treaty with the EU next month may last for a long time.We just hope that the positive and optimistic mood engendered in most of the country by Mr Johnson's undoubted talents will not only take us all though Christmas and New Year, but will last a great deal longer.

[maxk] 21/12/2019 17:42

Clear intentions in a single sentence.



"But the Prime Minister yesterday ruled out signing up to a deal which chained
Britain to alignment with the EU"

[grahamite2] 21/12/2019 17:38

Absolutely right, hernando.

I wonder how many people recognized Boris's reference when he said, we are the servants now? It was to the time that Stafford Cripps gloatingly said, we are the masters now. That is the socialist worldview - they are obsessed with the desire to tell others what to do.

Conservatives, by contrast, want people to be able to do what they want to do.

[hernando2] 21/12/2019 17:30

More hate in the guardian I fear...but there you go the people who leave the country are always the most patriotic...take Sean Connery for example.

better to stay and work hard to build your country...IMO

Patriots who live abroad ....that always seems like an Oxymoron to me...

But hey raise your G&T and salute the Monarch, I can live with that if you don't take it across your water glass when you do...

The Scottish posters will get that one

[alphorn] 21/12/2019 17:22

hernando - plenty of hate on this thread.

The strongest demonstration of patriotism has always been when abroad - the Queen's birthday etc. Proud to be British. My years in London it was words, not actions, rather like many posts on here.

[alphorn] 21/12/2019 17:19

"just stating facts and standing up for our country".

Rather than hot air I actually do something about it.

[patientcapital] 21/12/2019 17:14

Conjecture. Seems to be the common man's sport these days.

[minerve 2] 21/12/2019 16:58

You think you are 'standing up for our country' where in fact you are damaging it.

You'll find out eventually.


Boris just sold off one of our defence companies. Is there anything left to sell?