Lightwaverf Share Discussion Threads

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 16:58

CT - certainly the best laugh I've had for some time. Particularly this promotional video.



Can't wait to turn all the lights off with my mobile when I've retired to bed.

Particularly the ones downstairs. Always like to leave those on before going upstairs to bed. Oh no hang on it takes me all of a few seconds to flick off the switches.

Pound to a penny that most people are more likely to leave their mobile phone downstairs than forget to switch the lights off.

As for keeping tabs on your energy consumption, what a load of old tosh. Mid-winter, freezing cold, "oh no I'm using too much energy, I must switch the thermostat down with my mobile phone and freeze to death."

Good luck with this loss making, cash hungry, jam tomorrow company. Keep trying to talk the share price up if you can, you might be able to sell to an even bigger fool.

Bye bye. Sorry to have a laugh at your expense.

[clocktower] 22/10/2015 16:20

I second that Nar1 - almost wet my pants with laughter, when I read it a moment ago. Hope all enjoyed the thread today, I am sure we are all sorry it was at M`s expense.

[nar1] 22/10/2015 16:00

sinkyj - 22 Oct 2015 - 14:29 - 2063LOL

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 15:55

Actually, I've been trialling one of gadgets today whilst I've been out of the house. Every time my wife turned the heating on I was able to turn it off again. I'm beginning to warm to the idea, I could probably save a fortune on my energy bill.

Just got home. Nobody's here. Now what's that note my wife's left on the side for me? Oh, looks like I'm dining alone tonight.

Michael.

[larusso1] 22/10/2015 15:44

Hah you're right, my mistake. 99.99999r%

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 15:30

I presume you've rounded that figure to 100% because I'll certainly never do it.;)

[larusso1] 22/10/2015 15:18

I'm going to wade in with a figure of aprox 100% here.

The only reason people didn't do it up until recent times is because they weren't able to.

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 15:08

As well as being a luddite, I am also a tight s*d.

Even if I lived alone, I wouldn't want to switch the heating on before I arrived home. Think of the cost!

These new fangled mobile phone thingys are great. Very convenient for making calls, texts, playing games, surfing the world wide web (internet), etc.

However, think about it. What percentage of the population want to turn on and/or control their heating and lighting when they are not there?

Michael.

[sinkyj] 22/10/2015 14:29

Actually, all joking apart ,it's a fairly typical argument.

I must have heard a hundred times, "why do I want to turn my xxxx on from half way round the world".

When what I should be hearing is , "Isn't it great that I can arrive home to a nice warm house with the lights on , on a cold dark winters evening, as I haven't got a wife, I'm one of the growing number of single people that lives alone :-)"

That's a failure of the marketing, in general, to get that message across, and the products to make that experience easy to achieve.

To hit the masses you've got to start addressing those issues. I've got to have tested/seen at least 300 IOT products and at least 75% are unusable for an average person and some like a connected walking stick and the smart ring that provides a menstruation alert function, that just aren't needed. I'm sure Michael knows when his wife won't get out of bed to turn the light off, what day it is.

[clocktower] 22/10/2015 13:58

That is a word I have not seen for a long time but it`s "just fine" as it was and sums up M well in one word.

[clocktower] 22/10/2015 13:47

I think that was always pretty clear M but rather than call it an investment you could call it a gamble, now don`t tell me that you never gamble or have had an affair for a bit of fun on the side. Still you can always place this in your fantasy stock lists and look back and wish rather than wake up and find out you have. :-) Good Luck, time to move on, Bye.

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 13:36

I was merely flirting with this blog, a bit of a tease if you like! I have no intention of investing in LWRF in the near future, but I wish you all the best.

Michael.

[clocktower] 22/10/2015 13:19

LOL M, If you have not already been there and tried that I can recommend it but you may find that as sods law would have it, she is the one that has taken responsibility for everything, and has already installed the likes of LWRF products so she can show you what a wonderful wife/partner you have.

If you don`t buy it you`ll never know. Same thing with this stock M buy it, as I see you have fallen in love with the blog already, I know your instincts are telling you that you will regret it if you do not have a small punt even.

Treat it like an affair if you like, :-)

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 12:48

"when you wife kicks you out of bed in the middle of winter to turn the alarm off and re-set the lights and so on, you will wish you had LWRF products fitted in all buildings you control" -

I'll be wishing I had a different wife CT. :)

Michael.

[clocktower] 22/10/2015 12:45

LOL M but when you wife kicks you out of bed in the middle of winter to turn the alarm off and re-set the lights and so on, you will wish you had LWRF products fitted in all buildings you control, so you could do it all without getting out of bed, in fact without getting up to turn the lights on even.

As for the price ticking up, I think you will be watching it go all the way and beyond where it was before long, and 27p will look to be the bargain of the year to those that have cottoned on.

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 12:37

One word from me and the price immediately ticks up. ;)

Michael.

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 12:26

sinkyj - "When you walk into a room in 5 or so years time and it says "Hi Micky, it's a bit chilly in here, do you want me to put the heating up and by the way you've left the garage door open""

Already got that thanks. I call her my wife.;)

Thanks for your considered responses both.

The worry is that this is a very hot sector and everybody and his wife will want to get into it.

I agree with your comment sinkyj that at the moment products are being developed to solve problems that don't even exist.

Eventually, very few companies will survive as the big boys dominate the market.

clocktower - My sense of humour is sometimes an acquired taste, glad it made you smile though.

Good luck with your investments both.

Michael.

[dnadan] 22/10/2015 12:09

Ha ha! Clearly Michael you do not see or share the potential of IoT companies. Like it or not all the major players manufacturers are moving into this sector and it is not going away. Companies doing far less with a fraction of possibilities are valued better. That does not mean lwrf is wrong. Only that either the potential has not been noticed as the case for many British minmow companies in this sector or the management are not effective. I guess its a bit of both but I have faith in the directors and they have backed their words with their own hard cash. Companies in this sector do not have to make profits to be highly valued, just perceived to be going places.
If you feel this is not the company for you, so be it. Most of us on the blog see potential and are invested.

[clocktower] 22/10/2015 12:07

I like your sense of humour M. Before I start, I have to say that I do not think any talking up or down here by an old poster on adfvn, like me that has made serious errors in the past has any effect what-so-ever on the sp, mind you on balance a lot more successes since learning from those errors.

You ask why you would want to control your use of power remotely, well for starters it will save you a lot of money and be beneficial to not only the environment but ensure that a lot of commercial and social buildings are being maintained in the best possible and economical manner, that not only improves the life of buildings and lowers maintenance costs by extending the life of equipment because it is being run correctly but also ensuring the buildings do not suffer from the amount of damp issues that are likely to occur with large public or private buildings that are not being managed to the degree that Lightwaverf products can help with.

If you were responsible for your household or business/public property and had to account for bills that can run into huge sums that exceed your salary, would you not be looking for ways to show you were a good manager? If you were then compared with others that proved that savings could be made, and lost your job because of your failure you would soon change your ways and look for companies products like LWRF that can ensure you are ahead of the pack.

[sinkyj] 22/10/2015 12:07

Very good point MM, the smartphone is not the ideal interface for your house and that's why Lightwave stands out from the competition.

1) It's good looking and you don't pay that much extra, for remote control. You don't get Stainless steel and chrome smart lightswitches from many companies. In fact none at the price of Lightwave one's

2) It all works with or without a smartphone. If you choose you can just have a single mood controller that looks like a lightswitch and turn ALL you room lights on or OFF or to any preset dimming mood, just by walking to a "light switch". That saves effort.

The mood controller is battery powered, so you can put 2 way switching in on say a bedroom light without having to lay cables in your wall. Just screw it to the wall where you want extra controls. That save money.

3) If you work out of your house, you can be heating your house and not being there. Turning the heating to standby by using your phone, or even better the phone doing it automatically as you leave, saves money, saves the planet. Nest (The smartphone thermostat people) sold to google for $3.2 Billion dollars.

In terms of who wants IOT? Experts estimate that the IoT will consist of almost 50 billion objects by 2020. It's way bigger than using a smartphone to turn on a light. IOT will be truly successful when you don't know or remember it's there.

You no doubt would ask "why do I need a smart network of sensors and actuators, in my car?" but you have one. When you walk into a room in 5 or so years time and it says "Hi Micky, it's a bit chilly in here, do you want me to put the heating up and by the way you've left the garage door open" then we will be at the same stage with IOT.

The problem with IOT currently is it's immature, lacks a single consistent standard and lots of technology trying to solve problems nobody has. That won't be the case for ever which is why this market is red hot.

Whether the current management have the ability or vision to get the company where it needs to be positioned in the next year or so, you are entitled to your opinion. Certainly it's a view shared by many people, but there will be big winners in this market.

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 11:48

Seriously though clocktower, why would I want to remotely control my lighting and heating. Would I really want to keep remotely switching the lights on and off all day just to pretend I'm home, or switch the heating on in an empty house and waste energy so it isn't cold when I get home?

Besides, what if you get hacked and somebody remotely turns the heating off while you're at home. Potentially you could die of hyperthermia. Swathes of senior citizens could be wiped out by malicious hackers. ;).

Michael.

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 11:32

"Sour grapes" - Explain?

I'd suggest AEO has far better growth prospects. I accumulated AEO over the last few months at very good prices. I think you are the one displaying sour grapes since you failed to invest.

If I wanted to invest here then the stock is at it's all time lows. However, as I said, who on earth wants to control heating and lighting using a mobile phone? Explain it to me if you can please.

Jam tomorrow concern this one imo. Forever on the brink of profitability without ever achieving it.

Michael.

[clocktower] 22/10/2015 11:21

LOL, I do not think anyone is expecting a dividend here Michael and you might be surprised but if you looked back and did more research I had warned investors that could be the case, and was not invested here when I believed that might occur. Now that this fund raising has occurred and I have done a serious amount of extra research, my views changed and I bought in to the growth prospects and the technologies.

Sour grapes does you no credit Michael, as AEO is a good stock and one that I recommend on the basis of long term investment, where dividends are important. What AEO does not now offer is growth, this however imo does offer huge world wide growth. If you did the work you too might get the picture.

Still, I am happy with your view and any comments you wish to post here but before long I think you will need to follow the news here that most of us that are invested here expect, and you too will wished you had invested at this point in time imho but DYOR.

[michaelmouse] 22/10/2015 11:09

clocktower - I'd spend your time trying to talk this one up rather than talk AEO down.

'IOT' company. Who the hell needs to control their heating and lighting with their laptop or mobile phone? Here's a novel solution. When you get home, turn on the lights you need using a light switch and turn the heating up or down using the thermostat.

I notice that they have had to desperately raise cash again. Diluted existing shareholders by 50%. Ouch!

Revenues and losses for the year are expected to be the same as last year, despite declaring an interim profit. In other words they recently issued a profit warning.

Clearly a loss making cash burning company operating in an unproven area. No prospects of any dividend.

Best of luck.
Michael.