Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Lightwaverf LSE:LWRF London Ordinary Share GB00BKJ9BV58 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.50p +4.35% 12.00p 184,435 14:38:01
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
11.50p 12.50p 12.00p 11.50p 11.50p
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Leisure Goods 3.03 -0.85 2.39 5.0 8.6

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28/2/201516:25LightwaveRF plc - Specialists in Home Automation Systems458

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Lightwaverf Daily Update: Lightwaverf is listed in the Leisure Goods sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker LWRF. The last closing price for Lightwaverf was 11.50p.
Lightwaverf has a 4 week average price of 9.51p and a 12 week average price of 9.51p.
The 1 year high share price is 29.75p while the 1 year low share price is currently 9.51p.
There are currently 71,572,647 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 34,231 shares. The market capitalisation of Lightwaverf is £8,588,717.64.
clocktower: Imagine what would happen to the share price if Apple were to discontinue selling Lightwaverf products due to the poor volume of sales in their stores? In view that the items have been available since October you say sinkyj, one would have expected news from LWRF about how many new units are connected, if they were selling like hot cakes off the shelves. You might have even expected them to say that they could not get enough to satisfy demand. Silence about sales from Apple outlets!!
whoppy: Dave4545. Andrew Preason has no big holding but had options at 13p only exercisable after 3 years from last year 1st of March 2017, only if the share price exceeds 40p. Andrew Pearson holds 35,569 shares bought at 21.5p. Biggest Director Holding is Steve Harris Steve Harris is a director of Committed Capital Financial Services Ltd. and Committed Capital Ltd. (together "Committed Capital"). Committed Capital holds 17,168,153 ordinary shares in the Company via Mainspring Nominees (8) Ltd. and MNL Nominees Ltd., representing 28.22% of the issued share capital of the Company
sinkyj: The global market was $6B when numerous IOT and Home automation companies have gone to the wall. LW barely has a UK presence 30/40K homes. It's a minnow in the world pond. What is most important is how they quickly grow that UK business and brand with or without Apple's help. The $6B is attracting interest from the whales, sharks and minnows from all over the world. The UK pond is going to get very busy soon and LW shouldn't waste it's head-start. Fortunately, I think AP has his head screwed on and understands this better than some of the enthusiastic small shareholders. There's lots to do, and the share price reflects this, it still appears reasonable value at the moment for some steady accumulation. Even the UK early adopter market is a good 1-2 million homes, there is also lots of empty space to swim. The money is only just in, so talk of European expansion, even with Apple, is premature. There's a good 6-8 months or more lead time on new product even if they started serious development the day the cash hit the bank. European sockets/lights are no where near as roomy as UK, it's not a quick job.
michaelmouse: "MM. You also said that when they issued at 12p. I think a lot of regulars hopefully, got in and out at more or less the right time." You could write a book around that statement sinkyj. Are you a trader or long term investor? Only a few can time their trades well. The stats say more than 80% of traders lose money. LWRF's share price movements reveals why imo. I chose long term investing. How could you be sure that the share price would rise and when it would fall back? Just a guessing game. I always set a challenge for traders and they always fail to answer. Here goes. Are you going to buy back in? If so what price? When will you sell, and at what price? For clarity, I have never held any position in LWRF, just an interested observer. Good luck.
michaelmouse: Btw the share price was 27p when I issued that post.
bullet antt: Plop! - sound of this morning's share price action
sinkyj: Very muted response to the news. Maybe we will do better when the full launch happens next month. All it needs is a few mentions in the press again or a TV advert. All Gen2 products on the LightwaveRF site are now showing pre-order and 2nd week of November for delivery. Not sure many were actually installed : 17 ratings on iTunes and 100 downloads on Play store for the Gen2 App. Must admit it's difficult to see how many products would shift at the moment from the Apple online store. Only a hub that doesn't work with any other manufacturers products and a double socket for sale. Also a very soft launch. The Share price is probably as muted as the launch at the moment. A little patience required.
sinkyj: Share price starting to drift. Not sure about today's news, I will have to digest fully. In isolation leaves a huge amount of holes. It may look more sensible as part of the larger product road map we are not privy too, time will tell. Even higher prices doesn't seem the right way to go for sales, but to get to Apple there are a lot of mouths to feed. In general making Generation 2 products incompatible with Gen 1 even in a compatability mode leads to a lot of confusion and unhappy users. LightwaveRF's philosophy was simplicity, they've now got a Faq on how the pieces work together or not as the case maybe. That instinctively feels bad to me.
michaelmouse: CT - I'm not playing any hand at all with LWRF or with any other stock. Always been a long term investor. The hand is stacked against PI traders, and more than 80% lose money. I'm very happy for posters to look back at any posts I've made here and elsewhere. :) You'll find generally they're pretty accurate. As for LWRF, I correctly predicted the last placing and consequent share price fall. I haven't looked at the accounts here for a while, but I seem to think that another placing is inevitable. Cash burn is significant. Whether or not investors think a placing is a good thing or bad at this juncture is their decision. Of course it will largely depend on the discount to the current share price and forward looking prospects. It's not a company I'm interested in but it could catch a wave who knows?
elrico: Just to emphesis how "bloody good michealmouse is.... Ready Michaelmouse, sitting comfortably! First a little plug for your wonderful blog that offers very little substance. Monday, 28 November 2016 Trakm8 interims Trakm8 released their interims this morning and the share price has currently taken a 30% hit. I'm not sure what investors were expecting, (THEY WERE EXPECTING THE COMPANY TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ORDERS - ELRIC EDIT) but in my view, it's the usual wild over-reaction by myopic investors looking for short term gains. Trakm8 has a fantastic opportunity to exploit in the telematics industry, and has clearly gone for that opportunity in a big way with a very large spend on engineering capacity, alongside sales and marketing resource. We'll be able to judge in the medium to long term. In the short term, although revenues continue to grow, (REALLY - WHAT ABOUT CASH FLOW, OPERATING PROFIT AND NET NEBT BALLOONING - ELRIC EDIT)profitability will suffer a little. I'm happy with that. As I said in a recent blog :- (HOW LONG HAS TRAKM8 BEEN GOING? THIS SHOULD BE A MATURE BUSINESS NOW - ELRIC EDIT). hxxp:// "My view is that with a long term view, the company is hugely undervalued. I'm not particularly bothered whether or not they hit expectations this year, as long as they keep growing that order book." I'm not going to do a forensic analysis of the results:- but as usual you should DYOR. For me, the clear risk going forward is can they turn the increased engineering, sales and marketing spend into the proportionate eventual increases in revenues and profitability, and will their expansion into China and the US bear fruit? However, in my previous blog I wrote this:- "With a medium/long view on Trakm8, I'm looking for £10-£20. (WOW NO RAMP INTENDED FOLKS - ELRIC EDIT)In the short term, at the current lowly valuation, they are possibly vulnerable to a bid at around £5. " (MINE IS NEARER 60P - WHY THE 4X PREMIUM ARE YOU MAD?) Personally, I think they'd have been remiss not to go for the opportunity in the telematics arena with their market leading solutions, and I see no reason to change the targets stated above, as things stand at the moment. I am in the advantageous position in that I bought my holding in Trakm8 when the share price was in the teens, and I accept that some investors may have bought recently and are sitting on paper losses. (EVER HEARD OF A STOP LOSS!! ELRIC EDIT) END...well not quite, some other nonsense about what if's and why for's. What Michalemouse failed to mention to his huge audience and what really matters, was what is behind the fall from grace of 385p to 107p? And what was Michaelmouses price target? Oh wow!! Allow me to explain; TRAKM8 stated in september that its order book had increased by 37% on the same period from last year. Sound good, right!, it is cooking and michalemouse missed it. What was glaring obvious even for me, a non trained accountant and was bloody shyt at mathes as school; Operating profit was down 72% Operating cash flow down 90% and net debt has ballooned to £4.4 m, double the previous year. And the best bit for me...TRAKM8 was expected full year operating profits to match last year’s, when it made £3.9m....wait for it....try £600k that is a whopping £3.3m miss!! I previously told michalemouse the company was attempting to grow by buying competitors because it had ran out of steam, thus could not be called a growth company by the true sense of the meaning. Michaelmouse is keen to cook up all manner of accounting smoke and mirrors when it comes to OPTI, yet he failed to use the same accounting skills (chuckle) when running the rule over his precious TRAKM8. Add to the two previously mentioned frauds he also ploughed his money into, I ask you, can we really take this blaggard seriously!!
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