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[m1k3y1] 15/9/2020 18:06

Lyndon....tyvm

[amaretto1] 15/9/2020 18:03

First thing I've ever agreed with what u say sausage !

[spacedust] 15/9/2020 18:00

But before 600p is here 60p will be here first

[hodhasharon] 15/9/2020 17:33

“What is the near future prospects for aviation”

That’s why you don’t make any money albert. By the time you get the warm fuzzy feeling you novice investors require before investing, we’ll be at 600p per share.

[lyndon b] 15/9/2020 16:51

M1k3y1....ticker is IAGN

[albert3591] 15/9/2020 16:07

What is the near future prospects for aviation,do people really think airline companies are worth buying.If so I would wish you the best of luck you will need it I think.

[m1k3y1] 15/9/2020 14:22

Thanks demo. Can I ask where you find the price, so I can monitor it.

[spacedust] 15/9/2020 12:44

Monty thats exactly what ive been saying. Will touch 129p.

60p this winter watch and see it happen. Almost impossible for it not to hit 60p

[montyhedge] 15/9/2020 12:29

Rescue rights issue always ends badly in my opinion.

[demo trader] 15/9/2020 12:20

just below 71p

[m1k3y1] 15/9/2020 12:15

Any ideas what the rights price is currently please.

[m1k3y1] 15/9/2020 12:12

The way the share price is performing it looks likely to drop below 1.31 over the next few weeks at a guess.

[m1k3y1] 15/9/2020 11:36

logan.....I don't agree when you say "Qatar Airways will keep all the profits while at best paying IAG the break even cost for the onward flight to the America's.
Therefore in the long run, IAG's share price is of no real concern to Qatar Airways."

First, how do you know what the contractual agreements are between IAG and Qatar regarding profits on any particular route ?

Secondly, I think Qatar have invested over 600m so far in shares, so you would think that they would be VERY interested in the share price performing well.

[loganair] 15/9/2020 10:56

space - I'll try and explain...


BA fly a number of loss making short haul routes as they transfer these passenger on to their highly profitable long haul routes, overall they make a profit on these passengers.

Similarly Qatar Airways wants to transfer their A380 passengers into Heathrow and Madrid onto IAG's flights to the America's.

Qatar Airways will keep all the profits while at best paying IAG the break even cost for the onward flight to the America's.

Therefore in the long run, IAG's share price is of no real concern to Qatar Airways.

[spacedust] 15/9/2020 10:42

They should if the share price goes to 60p they have a huge paper loss in the multi billions

[loganair] 15/9/2020 09:57

What the private retail investor needs to understand is that Qatar Airways is going to run IAG for the benefit of Qatar Airways and not for the benefit of the private retail investor and therefore Qatar Airways really do not care what the the IAG share price is.

[bili1] 15/9/2020 09:46

Rather odd that Qatar with over 25% stake in IAG are giving full support?
Dare I suggest that they have a sound knowledge of investment and the airline industry?
Probably as much as the doomsters on this thread?

[spacedust] 15/9/2020 09:15

Should finish red 3 days out of 5 until 90p then back up to 110p then 60p

[buywell3] 15/9/2020 09:06

So circa 2.5 hours per pee is what it is

Toilets IMO are the most dangerous places now in the new Covid - 19 Era

[taurusthebear] 15/9/2020 05:29

You must have extremely weak bowels and/or bladder if you need to visit the toilet every 2 hours. Try emptying your system at the airport.

[buywell3] 14/9/2020 22:31

=========== The Future of the Airline Sector ==========


The future of the entire Global Airline Sector is 100% dependent at this time , on the outcome of the Covid-19 Pandemic.

Whilst this pandemic exists , and that, also for the present , buywell sees as worldwide case numbers increasing ; then so to will the Global Airline Sector be adversely affected.

Simply put Airline passengers realize there is a risk now attached to flying or indeed any form of travel in the presence of unknown strangers for many hours in an enclosed space.

Going to the toilet which is a very tiny space on planes/boats/buses and trains which ALL do at least a couple of times on say a 5 or 6 hour flight means this.

The person enters an area of approx 1M by 1.5M with a height of approx 2.5M
This room is less than considered safe by ALL Government Covid-19 social distancing regulations. This room (toilet) will have been visited by a very large percentage of the entire population on that plane/boat/bus or train. That is to say you have gone against the social distancing advice and breathed in the expelled air that all of those other passengers have breathed out or their aerosol droplets that their sneezes or coughs whist in occupance have produced.


In 2021 until a vaccine has tested that it works in a safe manner for a sufficient immunity period , until such a vaccine has been produced in the Billions of doses , until these billions of doses are then distributed Globally to all countries and the 7.8 Billion that will need to get it , many of whom can't afford to pay anything so it will have to free issue to approx 4 Billion people --- in 2021 buywell does not see this happening.

In the meantime it has been discovered that Covid-19 can be caught twice , which IMO is very very bad news regarding getting rid of it. Spanish Flu(last pandemic) was eradicated only because around 60% of the world population caught it , most lived , and most importantly developed immunity which meant they did not catch it again. buywell posits --- this is now NOT the case regards to Covid-19.

Conclusions:

a) Present data is pointing to Covid-19 being a long term event until a cure is found or a vaccine giving immunity for a period of time long enough for re-infections or new infections to reduce to numbers that health services can manage.

b) There is a worrying high percentage of people that do not want to take such a vaccine --- thought on how people can be made to accept a vaccine jab needs to be agreed upon ie WHO to take a lead --- perhaps mandates jabs for all.

c) Mutations of the SARS-CoV-2 virus continue, and there is now a very much more contagious strain ( X 10 ) in existence in many countries ie NOT the original Wuhan strain. This means some vaccines now under test might not work on whatever mutated strain is still causing cases in July 2021.

d) Because those people that enter a ICU in a hospital or need critical care due to adverse reactions to Covid-19 ie 20% currently ---- because those people that survive out of that 20% of Covid-19 cases and get discharged from hospital do so with a variety of severity of organ damage ( long term ) , the strain on Hospitals is going to increase exponentially whilst Covid-19 cases continue and existing discharged patients need ongoing medical treatments

e) At some point in 2021 on current Global trajectory of case numbers driven by India , Africa , North and South Americas and now the EU and Asia --- Hospital Services will cease to function

UNLESS

Strict Quarantine measures are imposed as was the case in Spanish Flu pandemic .
Unfortunately people of the present day with human rights do not react well to authority so such National Lockdowns that might have worked in the Spanish Flu pandemic won't work now.

-----------------------------------------------------


SOLUTION


The only solution in buywells' opinion is that mankind must learn to live with Covid-19 as another ongoing coronavirus ( ie become the fifth ) .

For such things as planes and boats and buses and planes there has been a way found recently to make this possible

buywell has posted what it is.

It will become the BIGGEST GROWTH AREA IMO in 2021

imo dyor