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[sikhthetech] 23/5/2020 18:37

Robert,

"Two week quarantine but working from home and im sure the quarantine laws won't ban them from going for jog, food shopping and other exercises"

The quarantine rules do ban them from visiting public areas, buying food etc (unless they have to!!).. so go for a jog in the back garden but not in public areas..




"This means that they should not go to work, school, or public areas, or use public transport or taxis. They should not have visitors, including friends and family, unless they are providing essential support.

They should not go out to buy food or other essentials where they can rely on others."

[robert heenan] 23/5/2020 18:24

I think the two week quarantine won't put off many from going for holidays especially now with Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal and Mexico opening up since many work places are shut and staff working from home. Two week quarantine but working from home and im sure the quarantine laws won't ban them from going for jog, food shopping and other exercises

I think after assessing the information that really good travel spots are opening up and the mood of the public and with home working culture.... I think tens of thousands of folks will be flying to get away. The government are already considering airbridge

[watfordhornet] 23/5/2020 18:04

With two weeks quarantine or none. I am booked on 31st July to Malaga but no good if have to quarantine for 2 weeks

[nw99] 23/5/2020 17:56

Spain opens in July to tourists

[jailbird] 23/5/2020 17:23

I like to see a coordinated global response to travel between countries

[jailbird] 23/5/2020 17:21

Even if there was no quarantine , many countries around the world are suspended or also have quarantine clauses . So why the big deal here .No one is is 100% free from COVID No- one wants cases imported Unless countries have track and trace and proper testing pre and post flying , there is no confidence anyway Let's look at the status of some routes From IATATRAVEL INDIA -- published 22.05.20201. Flights to India are suspended.IRELAND (REP.) - published 19.05.2020Passengers arriving in Ireland (Rep.) are required to self-quarantine for 14 days and complete a Public Health Passenger Locator Form.JAMAICA -- published 06.05.20201. Passengers are not allowed to enter Jamaica.- This does not apply to passengers with a Travel Authorization document issued by the government of Jamaica.2. Passengers with a Travel Authorization document issued by the government of Jamaica will be quarantined for 14 days. LUXEMBOURG - published 21.03.2020Passengers are not allowed to enter Luxembourg.MALAYSIA - published 18.05.2020 1. Passengers are not allowed to enter Malaysia.MALI -- published 04.05.2020Flights to Mali are suspended.- This does not apply to humanitarian flights. MALTA -- published 14.04.2020Flights to Malta are suspended.- This does not apply to ferry flights, humanitarian flights and repatriation flights.MARSHALL ISL. -- published 03.04.2020 Passengers are not allowed to enter Marshall Isl.MAURITANIA -- published 26.03.2020All airports in Mauritania are closed.MAURITIUS -- published 07.05.2020 1. Passengers are not allowed to transit or enter Mauritius.NETHERLANDS - published 12.05.20201. Passengers are not allowed to enter the Netherlands.NEW ZEALAND - published 10.04.20201. Passengers are not allowed to enter New Zealand.3. Passengers will be subject to mandatory isolation at a Government facility for 14 days on arrival. NORWAY - published 19.05.20201. Passengers are not allowed to enter Norway.PHILIPPINES - published 18.05.20201. Passengers are not allowed to enter Philippines. POLAND -- published 24.04.2020Flights to Poland are suspendedUSAUSA, must self-quarantine for 14 days once they reach their final destination.

[jailbird] 23/5/2020 17:05

IATA reiterated its belief that long-haul travel will return more slowly than domestic, noting that international revenue passenger kilometers (RPKs) won't likely return to 2019 levels until 2024-two years later than domestic RPKs. In fact, IATA doesn't believe average stage lengths will return to 2019 levels until after 2025, underscoring the point that such traffic-stifling measures such as quarantines will serve to only slow the recovery further.

[careful] 23/5/2020 17:02

A380 may one back Ito favour.
Lots a space, unlike the sardine can feel of the single aisle a320/737.

[sikhthetech] 23/5/2020 16:54

BA seem confident about the longer term prospects...
Unlike other airlines who have grounded their A380 fleet, BA sent one to Manila for maintenance...


Lots of short term problems to overcome first over the next few months, especially around passenger confidence and the 14 day quarantine.
There's also economic concerns and whether passengers will book holidays if they feel their jobs are at risk.. and as the govn eases it's support more and more companies will make staff redundant..

If BA can overcome the short term risk then they should be ok longer term.. but at what cost?



British Airways Flew An A380 Today – Here’s Why That’s Good News

[robert heenan] 23/5/2020 16:40

Spain opening up for tourism from July and in restricted cases from June 22

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/23/travel-restrictions-live-seek-holiday-agreements-eu-government/amp/

Greece to open to tourists from June 15

theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/greece-tourism-season-to-restart-15-june-international-flights-1-july-coronavirus-tests

Italy, Portugal and Mexico opening up to tourists.... I reckon this will shoot up on Tuesday. It definately go beyond 200 if theres leaks or news regarding government at the very least considering airbridge w8th certain countries

[loganair] 23/5/2020 14:10

Virgin Atlantic has announced it won’t resume flights until August ‘at the earliest’ due to the government’s new mandatory self-isolation regulations for travellers entering the UK.

[investtofly] 23/5/2020 13:31

So people coming into the U.K. that can't give an address for Self Isolation will be found a place and will have to pay for it themselves......Does this go for Illegal migrants.... DON'T THINK SO

[investtofly] 23/5/2020 13:10

I'm quite surprised Nicola Sturgeon hasn't blamed this "So called" pandemic on BREXIT...

[m1k3y1] 23/5/2020 13:03

One rule for them and another for everyone else !

Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings' lockdown trip 'was essential', says No 10

[m1k3y1] 23/5/2020 13:02

I think that has already been proven .

[investtofly] 23/5/2020 12:57

This should have been in place on the 1st Jan NOT 8th Jun.As for a rethink, The Government WON'T change their minds.......If they did that would prove how incompetent they are....

[hamhamham1] 23/5/2020 12:30

other countries already got the 14 day in place, so currently mostly only affect arrivals to UK and different. Odds are when you get to other countries you will have to do the 14 days thing at that end already.

[montyhedge] 23/5/2020 12:02

Final nail for airlines, 14 day quarantine I see 165p next week, unless gov changes it's mind.

[m1k3y1] 23/5/2020 10:33

olivert.......thank you.
Let's hope it works and arrives quickly.

[olivert] 23/5/2020 08:13

Hi m1k3y1,

The current problem for the UK Government is that the current testing (antibody testing) needs to be done in a lab. Results are in several days at best. It tells you whether you have had Covid-19.

The antigen test on say a pregnancy test device is immediate (ie. 5-10 minute) - Yes you have the virus Now or Not.

The cost of the new saliva antigen device could be added to the price of an airline ticket... millions of people can be tested per day...

Checked out website Medusa19...

It is coming soon. A gamechanger for Aviation.

[prunk] 23/5/2020 00:37

multinational FTSE 100 airline International Consolidated Airlines Group (LON:ICAG) (LSE: IAG) is the owner of airlines such as British Airways, Iberia and Aer Lingus. IAG shares have been damaged more significantly than other airline stocks, falling by around 70% since February. Management has also stated that passenger demand will not return to 2019 levels for many years.But I'm confident that IAG will survive the crisis, albeit in a slightly damaged form. The airline has attempted to preserve funds by announcing job cuts, grounding the majority of its fleet and cancelling its dividend. At the end of the first quarter, IAG also had total cash and undrawn facilities of c.€9.3 billion. Whilst I don't see IAG thriving over the next few years, I still believe that there will be a major recovery from its recent lows.

[m1k3y1] 22/5/2020 22:07

olivert........IF this is fact (we will see ) then it has to be a possible option.

The problem UK GOV has, is that it is having trouble testing 100,000 people a day at the moment.

According to Heathrow's own figures it deals with 235,000 passengers a day..

Now not all will be arriving or departing , some will be transfers BUT how will the tests be possible when UK GOV can't even handle 100k a day at the moment, across the whole country.

[olivert] 22/5/2020 21:50

What will that do to the share price??

[olivert] 22/5/2020 21:48

The new antigen test for Covid-19 (which is a saliva test similar to a pregnancy test) will soon be validated.

The results of the test can be determined in 5-10 minutes.

Therefore, prior to boarding a flight with say 200 passengers - maybe 4 passenger will test positive and are turned away to self-isolate!

IAG flying without the VIRUS!!

[loganair] 22/5/2020 21:02

m1 - The original reasons for BA taking over / joining up with Iberia are:

1. To increase BA's exposure to the Latin American routes, flying passengers from the UK via Madrid then on Iberia.

2. If the Northern, North Atlantic route to the USA air traffic controllers went on strike BA could fly its passengers to Madrid then use Iberia for the Southern, Northern Atlantic route to the USA.

3. If BA staff went on strike, their passengers could be transferred on to Iberia flights and flown down to Madrid for onward travel.