Intercede Share Discussion Threads

[rambutan2] 30/10/2006 22:58

hopefully he's a bit of a closet flag waver...

[igoe104] 30/10/2006 19:42

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[igoe104] 30/10/2006 17:11

yep they have, i,ve always known, the management were dreaming, (when talking about being in the id card race.) 18 months ago they were talking up their chances, in a RNS and got some of the shareholders little excited, but i think now the have given up on the idea, saying the uk market is tough. WHAT THEY SHOULD OF SAID THEY CAN,T MATCH THE SUPERIOR PRODUCTS, OF INTERCEDE.

[rambutan2] 30/10/2006 16:39

idd has long been a disaster and not to be touched with a bargepole. imho

[igoe104] 30/10/2006 16:37

Looks like we could of seen of our challenger for the national id contract. all of this year idd, management have been saying they hoped to be involved in the national id card. they have suddenly changed their tune, saying they have finding the uk market very challenging.

[igoe104] 30/10/2006 12:00

IF,S diffcult not to see a market leader, (in what it does) in a area thats going to have over 1000% growth not making strong gains. igp are in a great position to take advantage, of worldwide security problems.

[taurusthebear] 30/10/2006 11:52

Aphro,

It follows exactly what I posted in reply to Taurus last week.

"Continue to buy into an upswing if the price looks right"

Well done, and glad you got a decent amount of shares, seems it may have been you supporting the bounce back today! ;0)

I don't think much of chart theory on micro-cap illiquid stocks such as this. I bought in months ago and Friday's sale wasn't a big deal. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that IGP definitely has the potential to make me the most profits ever, as when I got into IBG at 4p I only bought 200k to start with, and my initial outlay with IGP has been a lot more (in financial terms, not number of shares).

Long may it spiral upwards. If punters want to turn this into the next Gresham Computing, then who am I to complain!? :0)

[pork belly] 30/10/2006 11:16

APHRO,

you called it spot on. well done.

it can only be a matter of time before the press/tip sheets cover this stock.

i really do like this company VERY much. i doubt it will be too long before we see another USA contract.

[rambutan2] 30/10/2006 11:05

another software play i like is mondas (mds). yes, the chart shows a long term horror story, but hidden within is an interesting growth story. it certainly doesn't tick all the right boxes, but i believe that it's worth a fair bit more than the mkt seems to think. it will meet this year's profit forecast and should rerate nicely at some point over next 6-12mths.

in any case, any new interest would be v welcome, as will any pro or anti posts on the mds thread.


ramp over!

[yump] 30/10/2006 10:53

gump
How about a peat digger ? William Sinclair. I bought years ago and can't be bothered to sell now. In retrospect it obviously had no chance of ever becoming highly rated unless it dug up plutonium !

On the other hand IGP / identity cards was imo always a possibility for being recognised / experiencing rapid growth. As is RFID, profitable internet companies etc.

Is anyone here in Fonebak FON ? Missed that one completely and its just taken off a bit. That was an inbetween I thought - recycling mobile phones for the big companies and selling them in poorer countries. Couldn't decide if it was just box-shifting or potentially huge.

[aphrodites] 30/10/2006 10:43

yump

re your post 366

I like your style.

It follows exactly what I posted in reply to Taurus last week.

"Continue to buy into an upswing if the price looks right"

As for charts I find them invaluable and use them a lot. But never to decide my policy; only as a guide and confirmation as to my own analysis.

And even when the 5th. Elliott wave is completed it might only be the last wave in a further sequence of 5 upwards.

My broker has come back and offerd me 10,000 at 52p.

I am not paying that price and told him where to go.

KBM is the MM, so he still has a seller in the background.

The price will stay here until the next bit of news or a tipsheet gets hold of this.

[igoe104] 30/10/2006 10:30

I think wjjc figure of £6 is pricing in an involvement with a big project, like the national id card, which could well happen, with the company already had a few meetings with the government, and done demos, for the them as well.

[gurp] 30/10/2006 10:06

yump - not sure there are any shares that can permanently described as 'boring'.
igp an example of one that seemed to sit for ages doing sod all then, as happens so often in my portfolio, it's the one that I'm not watching that suddenly moves out of the blue esp on small caps so dependent on news

[yump] 30/10/2006 09:57

This is pretty good to end up level now. Nasty shake - hope nobody stopped out.

[yump] 30/10/2006 09:57

gurp
Also think its important to ignore being put off by the charts of shares that your research tells you are good, but where the share price is just trading sideways. Reason being that if it really is a good share (and capable of being noticed ie. not boring), the information flow once it gets going can be so rapid that you'd have to buy in after significant rises. Obviously the point of entry is tricky as you can be way too early. I tend to buy a starter stake early and then top up on confirmation of business growth - there's usually a chance as most shares go quite volatile when the word starts getting around.

[aphrodites] 30/10/2006 09:48

I have managed to buy 20,000 shares this morning and have only paid a high of 49p for 2,500. The rest have been at 47p or better but most are not shown on the screen yet.

My broker has instructions to buy another 10,000 but has come back to tell me he is protected in 2,500 at 49p and is working on the rest.

He told me the market makers are bidding for 10,000 and are only offering pea-nuts.

They obviously have a big buyer in the background.

As I pointed out several days ago when I suggested the share price was likely to come back to 46p before making the 3rd. advance of the Elliott Wave; if it follows the classic Elliott Wave theory the 3rd. leg could prove to be by far the strongest move in this pattern.

It all bodes very well.

[gurp] 30/10/2006 09:34

yump - find the exaggeration on rises & falls is what gives opportunities.
only realised recently how important the buy share price is. I usually buy £'s of shares rather than numbers so for a fixed outlay if you buy lower you also get more shares - double whammy, interesting to do calculations & see the difference in actual profit

WJ... - ok! apology

[wjccghcc] 30/10/2006 09:29

6 quid was an illustrative example of the operational gearing if sales went up 10x in line with the investment in IT/physical security convergence. The 130% was compound return over 3 years rather than simple return. My actual target in 3 years is for sales to increase 4-5x i.e 8-10mm.

[yump] 30/10/2006 09:23

There might be a few more interested soon - if it keeps on hitting the + or - toplists and then there will be a real market in the shares. I think there'll be a few games to play out here - shakes, markups and all the usual stuff, except exaggerated.

[gurp] 30/10/2006 09:22

glad to see many of the above posts eg "yump - Still wonder if the nature of investment has changed quite dramatically from the old 'buy a share and leave it for 20 years' philosophy."
couldn't agree more - posted similar on another board & got slated by almost every other holder, just holding blindly - as several say, esp on big spikes, doesn't seem to pay these days - no matter how much you believe in the company you don't KNOW what the future holds, had several where I stubbornly held on a fall & now regret it - you can make a lot of money by medium term trading, may need some luck but you do in investing anyway.
the point about investing too early also valid - evident esp in bios & small oil expl, so many identical charts of big rises then serious retraces.
my current strategy to buy on the retraces & it's paying off. tend to buy in gradually just in case.
see EW mentioned, does this bear out the fact that the retrace on a spike so often seems to be 50%?
agree with many points made, although each individual share can be different, which is unusual for me - being a sceptical, disagreeing old git, but starting just before the '87 drop & living thru the dot-com farce, that taught a lot, not surprising
good to see that posts on here have generally been realistic (nb an share price of £6 is c1300% not 130%?) as rose coloured comments on many boards put me off
igp looking tempting this am but I'm holding off getting back in. weakness in the U.S. concerning at the mo considering elections due, after that could be even more serious, until china etc really come into their own
apologies for rambling

[taurusthebear] 30/10/2006 08:37

I wouldn't bother for 1,500 shares. It's often like this, welcome to an illiquid share. The MMs like to move the price without trades, that's why it's a good idea to buy when they're low and sell when they're high. There just aren't enough investors interested in IGP yet, look at the paltry dealing sizes that go through... :0)

[aphrodites] 30/10/2006 08:30

Just bought stock at 46.63p but my broker could only get hold of 1,500 shares.

MM's playing around with this one on the weaker opening of the market.

[aphrodites] 30/10/2006 08:25

Interesting to see that only Wins is making a price at the moment and has pulled the carpet taking the price down to 43 -48p

With no news in the weekend press this is xxactly as I expected.

Also supports the view that KBC had a seller in the 50's.

It will give anyone who wants to buy stock a golden opportunity to climb on board.

Ops here comes KBC with 44-48p!

[yump] 29/10/2006 23:12

Hope there is and its one of the few where as you say the liquidity and lack of hype is in its favour, although I'd prefer it to progress reasonably steadily so I don't have to take the top-slicing decision until there are some forecasts and p/e's to work with !