Hsbc Ftse250 Discussion Threads

[nasdaqpat] 04/1/2018 23:02

FTSE100's Segment 6 of Cyclical Bull Phase 1 today reached 7703 intraday.

PW1~~05.36% (7197:7583) in 41 days (started on 18 Sep 2017);

PW2~~05.68% (7289:7703) in 18 days (started on 07 Dec 2017);

Segmental gain thus far 06.96% (7197:7703) in 80 days (started on 18 Sep 2017);

Phase gain thus far 40.05% (5500:7703) in 483 days (started on 12 Feb 2016).

[gateside] 04/1/2018 15:27

Bought a few VED at beginning of week. Looks good for a recovery. But don't expect to hold long term, as don't like holding shares in companies with high levels of debt.Like the look of TLW too. Wished I'd bought that at the beginning of week too, but didn't.

[invisage] 04/1/2018 14:58

GPM decent gold play trades like an investment trust oldung various gold holdings currently about 20% discount to NAV

[invisage] 04/1/2018 11:04

I agree with Gateside

It is a chore, a weekly chore to post holdings and performance etc.

I have personal goals and I invest to achieve those, my intent is not to beat Gateside or Pat in a given year but it is to get closer to reaching my own personal targets.

I am happy to share stock ideas and I hope you guys are willing to do the same to make money...


I like a stock called NAH - National Accident Helpline, high margins, High returns on capital, low debt, low PE, high yield of 7.6%, forecast to grow revenue next couple of years.

Anyhow I see myself as holding loads of cash in 2018 as I am expect volatility to return, I also expect to be more active then recent years and generally waiting for some meaningful correction to happen.

[gateside] 04/1/2018 09:29

Nothing bizarre....Was simply trying to make it easier for you by just letting people post their own figures. To create you less work.I know of another BB on ADVFN, where there about about 6 people who regularly post portfolio performance, and just highlight what shares have done well for them and shares have not. Thought if you could let people here do the same you might get more people to join the competition, which would bring it more worth and more fun.

[nasdaqpat] 04/1/2018 07:10

Gateside,

In the light of your bizarre attitude and comments in the last 2 posts, I am pulling out of our competition.

We are clearly not on the same page and, in any case, I could do with focusing more of my attention this year on making some money and I don't need any distractions or the resultant aggravation.

[gateside] 03/1/2018 23:00

I don't see any point in including the Volde "whatever you call it" in the Portfolio. It's an old portfolio that will have changed.If you want a shadow portfolio, surely there is more value in making up a current one of your own?

[gateside] 03/1/2018 22:54

I think asking people exactly what shares they have in their portfolio can be off putting. Surely letting people quote their percentage performance is enough?If you were OK with just doing that, then invisage might reply and join the competition. The more the merrier. I've set up my own ghost portfolio of 15 shares, but haven't posted it, as I feel it's only of worth to me, as a sort of watch list.If you would find any value in knowing what they are I can post them.

[nasdaqpat] 03/1/2018 18:21

I don't Buy some of that Gateside and, after Invisage's outburst a few days back, either her/his current portfolio is presented (if one exists) or I shall continue to include the Voldemort portfolio, as was, in the 2018 performance table.

[gateside] 03/1/2018 17:53

I'd give Invisage time to post his figures for the week/month as we go into 2018, like me he's probably busy. Probably a good idea to forget all ghost portfolios, yours, mine, his, and just compare whoever posts portfolio figures against the Indices. I've streamlined my portfolio spreadsheet, and have stop losses and buy targets set up, but don't expect to trade that much. At times I will be away from computer, so my updates may be less regular than previous, as this year I'm going to be more busy with work and family.

[nasdaqpat] 03/1/2018 14:24

Yes, I was hoping he/she would join the competition this year and we could give him/her a right royal roasting but he/she has disappeared again...just have to make do with the Voldemort Ghost Portfolio again.

[gateside] 03/1/2018 13:23

No not ignored. Just busy with family, and not spending any time looking at the Markets this week.I see you have a visit and a lively exchange of words with Invisage!

[nasdaqpat] 03/1/2018 11:23

Seems like I am being ignored!

[nasdaqpat] 02/1/2018 09:25

Gateside,

I guess Invisage wasn't interested in joining the competition after all...never mind, it'll still be interesting to see how the Voldemort Ghost Portfolio gets on this year which should provide a more 'normal' test of how a static portfolio copes with increased volatility.

[nasdaqpat] 30/12/2017 13:32

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[nasdaqpat] 30/12/2017 12:35

Invisage, I'm happy to start afresh and play nice, if you are.

I am pretty confident that Gateside would be pleased to have you join the competition next year especially as it gets a bit boring for him without any real competition from the Videan portfolio.

All I need is a list of your current (starting) portfolio and your approximate percentage allocation for each share and your cash reserve?

[invisage] 30/12/2017 12:19

Thanks Pat - Just learn to be nice and respectful.

We are ALL Friends here and trying to help each other make money.

BTW I have a sneaky feeling your going to have a better year in 2018 as I think your strategy is more relevant for volatile markets which is what I think we will see in 2018

[nasdaqpat] 30/12/2017 12:02

Yes, EI, I also remember Invisage's move to cash...I expect he is lying now and actually went short at roughly the same time as the Videan portfolio did but his lack of control has probably seen him lose much more heavily than our portfolio and, doubtless, he has performed much worse than the Ghost (Voldemort) portfolio that represented his known holdings before his unacceptable behaviour.

However, I must admit that our portfolio has performed abysmally over the last 2 years and some of it was due to not keeping a fixed set of quality companies and changing strategy several times during the course of the current year. Hopefully, next year will be different so...

Gateside...I have decided to continue with the competition next year but without Ghosts as you have suggested; and

Invisage...if you feel like growing a pair you can be included again next year (previous rules apply). You are an unpleasant git but I'n not averse to the occasional vociferous exchange of views (now that we know exactly where we stand). Alternatively, I will keep the Voldemort portfolio as is and watch it underperform as the markets finally correct and the 90% stock holding becomes a burden rather than an advantage.

[invisage] 30/12/2017 11:42

“It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight! It is no trick at all to be right on the market. You always find lots of early bulls in bull markets and early bears in bear markets. I've known many men who were right at exactly the right time, and began buying or selling stocks when prices were at the very level which should show the greatest profit. And their experience invariably matched mine--that is, they made no real money out of it. Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon.”
― Edwin Lefèvre

[invisage] 30/12/2017 11:39

“It takes a man a long time to learn all the lessons of all his mistakes. They say there are two sides to everything. But there is only one side to the stock market; and it is not the bull side or the bear side, but the right side. It took me longer to get that general principle fixed firmly in my mind”
― Edwin Lefèvre, Reminiscences of a Stock Operator

[invisage] 30/12/2017 11:35

“Men who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon. I found it one of the hardest things to learn. But it is only after a stock operator has firmly grasped this that he can make big money. It is literally true that millions come easier to a trader after he knows how to trade than hundreds did in the days of his ignorance.”
― Edwin Lefèvre, Reminiscences of a Stock Operator

[invisage] 30/12/2017 11:33

Videan take note



“The desire for constant action irrespective of underlying conditions is responsible for many losses in Wall Street even among the professionals, who feel that they must take home some money every day, as though they were working for regular wages.”
― Edwin Lefèvre, Reminiscences of a Stock Operator

[invisage] 30/12/2017 11:30

“One of the most helpful things that anybody can learn is to give up trying to catch the last eighth—or the first. These two are the most expensive eighths in the world. They”
― Edwin Lefèvre, Reminiscences of a Stock Operator

[essentialinvestor] 30/12/2017 11:30

Invisage, in fairness the last time you posted you were expecting a correction
and said you now had a big % in cash awaiting that.