Amd Commo Exagr Discussion Threads

[loverat] 17/8/2009 19:28

Well, this is an interesting post.....

Anomolous - should COMG shareholders be contacting the LSE as well as the FSA?
After all, I expect we are dealing with piddly amounts here compared to LGB.


strongbuy - 12 Dec'05 - 08:47 - 36531 of 36655
Anomolous, Who do we contact at the LSE to start applying the PRESSURE?


Anomalous - 12 Dec'05 - 18:56 - 36661 of 59023


I would start with Clara Furse.

Point out to her that it would be acutely embarrassing for the Exchange if they were sued for vicarious liability by hundreds of
shareholders, through the small claims courts or even the High Court.
The Private Eye article is now on the website in the Magazine section. Please read the article and digest its contents. TheEy e is superb at
this kind of analysis. They manage to strip a scandal like this to the bone and point to the real culprits v ery quickly. I would reccommend
that you purchase a copy of this edition of the Eye, just in case you do decide to sue.
The article points to the fact that the LSE lent Crown its credibility by trading on AIM and it was through this that the con established its
authenticity .
I wonder how much the LSE share prices would fall, if it was announced that there were literally hundreds of disaffected shareholders
claiming compensation from them. They are supposed to be valued at £1.5 billiob, so I guess they can afford to hand over £365 million
for allowing this company to trade as a member of their Exchange.

[loverat] 17/8/2009 18:59

Now, seen as anomalous and cougar6 are all in favour of just causes and sitting around a table to achieve fair and equitable settlements I reckon shareholders here might have grounds for optimism. First rate businessmen running the companies and cruscaders for justice.

My word - what lucky shareholders you all are..

[loverat] 17/8/2009 18:55

Silly me .......you and cougar6 were buddies so that explains that....


A0456717 - 12 Nov'04 - 18:48 - 3341 of 3365


well done anomalous from your spanish arm of spiezia


Anomalous - 13 Nov'04 - 03:06 - 3343 of 3365

A0456717 - 12 Nov'04 - 18:48 - 3341 of 3342
weldone anomalous from your spanish arm of spiezia


Many thanks to you too Cougar. You deserve congratulations too. Your confidence in our just cause, has helped us get to this first major Victory. I do hope you can be here for the negotiations, when we get the MMs around a table to sort out a fair and equitable settlement.


Individual Director Report

George Allnutt

Company Name: SPIEZIA ORGANICS LIMITED
Registered Number: 04767760
Status: Small

Position: RESIGNATION OF COMPANY DIRECTOR
Appointment Date: –
Resignation Date: 13/07/2007
Occupation/Function: DIRECTOR

[loverat] 17/8/2009 18:50

cougar6 - 5 Dec'05 - 15:55 - 35275 of 59023

All roads on this one leads to MONACO


Anomalous - 12 Dec'05 - 03:09 - 36523 of 59023

The share price when Pearson came in would not have worked. It was far too low. So they needed him to instill confidence in the market,
so that the holders could then dispose of the 'worthless' shares and take the millions and run. As Cougar6 pointed out - suspicion has to
point to Monaco.



And a thousand posts later cougar6 gets the credit for pointing shafted investors in the direction of MONACO. Well done cougar6 and well done Anomalous for remembering the post and name of the poster. Attention to detail is everything....

[loverat] 17/8/2009 18:27

Broker in firing line again on Room Service


By James Moore
Published: 12:01AM GMT 29 Nov 2003

"West country entrepreneur George Allnutt claims the short selling activities of Evolution Beeson Gregory prevented him from launching a reverse takeover of the company, currently a debt ridden cash shell".



londonmetro - 5 Dec'05 - 15:58 - 35277 of 59023

cougar6
hi not the same one from rsv days..???

if so did you ever find a company to reverse into???



londonmetro

To answer your question, whilst cougar6 was unsuccessful at RSV he seems to have achieved a 'reverse' takeover of sorts of E2000 and Management International.....







From the EPE/COMG RNS June 2007

As part of the change in strategy, we are proposing a resolution at the AGM to
change the Company's name to Commodity Growth plc.

In order to finance the new strategy we intend to dispose of the existing
education portfolio. The E2000 management team, along with myself and fellow
EPE director George Allnutt, has made an offer of #70,000 to acquire the entire
UK business consisting of E2000 and Management International ("MI"). Payment
will be made via the cancellation of EPE's 10% Convertible Loan Notes. The
acquisition price represents approximately three times the combined E2000 and MI
profits for 2006. Additional consideration may become payable based on any
increase in profit in 2007 over 2006. The independent directors, Simon
Littlewood and Victor Ng, have determined that the sales price and acquisition
terms are reasonable.

[loverat] 17/8/2009 07:10

Photo distribution = Allnutt

RNS Number:9572Q
Room Service Group PLC
15 October 2003

15th October, 2003


The Company was notified earlier today that, following a purchase of 10,000,000
ordinary shares, Photo Distribution Limited is now beneficially interested in
10,000,000 ordinary shares in the Company, representing 8.05 per cent. of the
issued share capital of the Company.


RNS Number:0346R
Room Service Group PLC

17th October, 2003
The Company was notified earlier today that, following a purchase of 1,200,000
ordinary shares, Mrs Margaret Samea is now beneficially interested in 7,800,000
ordinary shares in the Company, representing 6.28 per cent. of the issued share
capital of the Company.





cougar6 - 17 Oct'03 - 14:05 - 696 of 747
I have more than maggie

[loverat] 17/8/2009 06:59

Broker in firing line again on Room Service


By James Moore
Published: 12:01AM GMT 29 Nov 2003

Stockbroker Evolution Beeson Gregory is facing a second potential legal action from a major investor in Room Service Group, it emerged yesterday.

West country entrepreneur George Allnutt claims the short selling activities of Evolution Beeson Gregory prevented him from launching a reverse takeover of the company, currently a debt ridden cash shell.

Mr Allnut said yesterday he had paid for 10m shares in the company equating to around 8.2pc of the share capital but has been unable to take possession of his shares because of the settlement problems surrounding the company's shares.

"I am planning to file a writ. These actions prevented us from tabling our proposals. I have access to three companies which could have been reversed into Room Service," he said.




October 1, 2006
Langbar asset hunt leads to £34m hoard

Meanwhile, in yet another twist, the Langbar Action Group (LAG), which represents small shareholders, claims that Buchler and his team are trying to get investors to surrender their rights for their own gain. Nigel Smith, head of the LAG, is trying to drum up support for a last-minute coup to oust Buchler and install his own - as-yet-unnamed - recovery expert.


And who was Nigel Smith's unnamed recovery expert?

[loverat] 17/8/2009 06:28

londonmetro - 5 Dec'05 - 15:58 - 35277 of 59023

cougar6
hi not the same one from rsv days..???

if so did you ever find a company to reverse into???





That's right londonmetro - the same one from RSV days, AND days, COMG days, LDC days and LGB days.

[loverat] 17/8/2009 06:21

And cougar popped up also.....

cougar6 - 5 Dec'05 - 15:55 - 35275 of 59023

All roads on this one leads to MONACO



Hey Cougar - where do the roads on this one lead to?

[loverat] 17/8/2009 06:18

From the LGB thread -

Anomalous - 4 Dec'05 - 20:38 - 35058 of 59023
Holdontight - 4 Dec'05 - 19:53 - 35043 of 35052
Anom.....can i take it then that this will be (part of) the Action Group claim focus?

I'm only an advisor to your Action Group.
I am however, one of the coordinators of a different Action Group. There is more than one Scandal being looked into at this moment and
if the Regulators are unwilling to admit that they have let the public down and pay the compensation that should have been claimed,
then they will have to suffer the ignominy of hav ing their mistakes aired in public.
It is quite unacceptable that the regulatormakes a mistake and people lose money . It is quite a different matter if the regulator
DELIBERATELY acts in such a way to make private investors lose money and the other regulators sign off that ev erything is OK and fail to
complete their job too. There is a difference between Malfeasance and Misfeasance and the LSE know what they are GUILTY of.
Let me just say that there hav e been far too many scandals over the past 2 years, Room Service, May flower, Incite Holdings,A frican
Diamonds, White Nile, Regal Petroleum, etc etc and now culminating in Langbar International.

This has to stop, the London Markets are becoming a criminal's paradise.
The LSE now want to encourage the Russians to list over here. Having done business in Russia and been the victim of a massive fraud in
Moscow, I know only too well the dangers that the LSE is getting itself into.Ask anyone that owns shares in Sibir (another AIM company )
what they think. If the AIM is so laxly regulated, then all pension funds and savings will be vulnerable, and HMG will have to pick up the
bill.

[loverat] 15/8/2009 16:34

Some time back I received an e-mail from a shareholder who suggested that the FSA would not be interested in something like this and have bigger fish to fry.
'Tennis Elbow' also suggested the same on the LDC thread.

You often see posters on these threads mouthing off about manipulation and dodgy practices but seldom do they investigate further. That's why the majority of the cases referred go nowhere. In other words you have to get the evidence yourself and put forward a basis for investigation.

Unlike the highly complex LGB and MDX cases which had a large shareholder base where the prospects of recovery could be hindered by any FSA investigation I feel a referral here would be the best course based on the evidence accumulated so far. If you look at FSA investigations over the last 10 years you will see that the majority of people they have investigated have been individuals and small outfits. I would hazard a guess that the decision to investigate and successful prosecutions have been a result of ordinary people who have done the research and legwork prior to referral.

[loverat] 15/8/2009 15:42

The MDX situation is very interesting and highly complex. Seems ex - directors of the board ripped the company off but a new plan is being formulated to salvage something for shareholders by one of the directors apparently not associated with dishonest behaviour.

Let's wish all the shareholders there well. I expect many will be wary of the new plan when it includes them putting up new money to help the company survive. However, my instincts are that the current management there are genuine and are the best hope for that company.

[loverat] 15/8/2009 15:27

I thought this post below on the MDX thread was rather good.


Andy - 15 Aug'09 - 13:38 - 15740 of 15759


I know it's not usual having a CEO posting directly to shareholders, but as MDX is unlisted, and Barry is conservative in what he posts, I think he is doing the right thing.



Now, how about it fellas? If you are genuine and honest I am sure an explanation for shareholders would go down a treat here.

[loverat] 14/8/2009 23:11

Watch the film guys. A far more worthy charity than the crummy Investors Support Fund. And yes - it is registered with the Charity Commission and run by people who genuinely care for others.

[loverat] 13/8/2009 20:04

A superb film.

[loverat] 13/8/2009 19:42

Now, ain't that the fact..

Nemo2 - 13 Aug'09 - 19:19 - 15359 of 15360

Evening All


Hypocrites are much more fun to play with than psychopaths !

[loverat] 12/8/2009 17:54

As I said before - there is strong evidence to suggest that one director posted here and on LDC. The nature and content of the posts was not appropriate by any stretch of the imagination.

No doubt, presented with the evidence thus far, the regulator working with ADVFN will have little difficulty tracing and pursuing the names behind other suspect posters. The results may be very interesting.

[loverat] 12/8/2009 17:17

Thanks. Well, lets see what happens when the findings are taken forward which should be quite soon. As most know LDC was being run by Littlewood and to some extent Allnutt but hopefully with the new management there we shall see something salvaged for investors.

All along this has not really been about firing off stuff to the FSA about certain individuals - that can sometimes be counter productive if there is a chance of investors salvaging something back. However, COMG seems different from LDC. I have seen no communication or explanation from this company about what has happened. Therefore in the absence of information to suggest that shareholders will salvage anything, this seems like one for a referral.

The positive posters that used to post here no longer post. Interesting that there are a substantial number of lurkers that read these threads from distance places. From Melbourne to Gloucestershire - from Bristol to Bejing and from Bournemouth to Slovenia. No doubt some will be shareholders catching up on the latest. But I suspect that there will be other readers who are perhaps be hoping this will all go away.

Nope, is the short answer - not until there is an explanation, whether it be from those that ran this business or the regulators.