Torotrak Share Discussion Threads

[thanksamillion] 21/12/2015 10:54

Just shy of the point where particpants in August's Open Offer will have lost 50% - IN 4 MONTHS.

They must be really chuffed.

[lefrene] 21/12/2015 08:30

Is an end of year clear out, or is it something else? The new chap has not had a glorious start to his incumbency.

[bodgit] 21/12/2015 08:26

Oh dear.... looks like Christmas has brought no Torotrak cheer. Good luck all.

[deanroberthunt] 19/12/2015 12:58

what a crock of shi'ite

[bearable] 18/12/2015 23:18

williocc
it was a double meaning RIP
I think the share price tells its own story.
Im as sad as anyone although my loss is in 4 numbers only
on paper of course

[neilyb675] 18/12/2015 17:55

small position taken

[lefrene] 18/12/2015 17:04

willoicc, I suspect that ivt will have a similar fate, TRK gets bought up for pennies just before Univance announces production for a major OEM. Little old ladies will tell their bridge club friends, "Yes it's awfully smooth and economic, it's those clever Japanese again you know".

[willoicc] 18/12/2015 16:29

Just reading about the APT - another British innovation commercialised by others.

[lefrene] 18/12/2015 16:27

We can't heap the sins of the past board onto the current incumbents, who at least come across as rather more honest and better connected than certainly the last slithy incumbent. share price going down is never happy unless you're short, although it could just be people having a year end clear out and throwing in the towel on this ne'r-do-well bright idea.

[willoicc] 18/12/2015 08:13

You would be far better suing the government for allowing the vehicle manufacturing industry to continually postpone implementation of green policies to reduce fuel usage.

Probable just as futile.

[angus17] 18/12/2015 08:07

he's probably right though.

if anybody out there thinks that there may be a legal case against any of the BOD past or present then I will certainly support it with what little money I have left.

[willoicc] 18/12/2015 08:02

Bearable if you are going to make a statement like that, at least say something to back it up!

[bearable] 17/12/2015 22:39

RIP up your certificates.
Something dire?

[bodgit] 17/12/2015 17:20

Looks like 4.4p on the bid which gives even more multiples of hidden value. I find it difficult to decide which is most outrageous, JD's statement of hidden multiple value, the other expectations he created in 2014 and the failure to deliver,the 'pay off' he got on his departure or what looks like none of the Directors being held to account for their collective failures. Good luck all - we need that more than ever....

[thanksamillion] 15/12/2015 18:38

1.5m trade from 11 dec - same day as the other two but actually earlier in day at same price.

[bodgit] 15/12/2015 17:32

Another large trade of 1.5 million reported from 9.03 a.m. Hmmmmm. Good luck all.

[thanksamillion] 14/12/2015 10:05

1m actually - see LSE site for actual time of deals and extra 100k at same time. Little effect on share price - could even be a broker to broker transfer.

[bearable] 14/12/2015 01:21

900,000 dumped

[bearable] 13/12/2015 00:11

a name change!!
SNAKES AND LADDERS

[lefrene] 11/12/2015 14:33

Must be fit for the Guinness Book of Records by now, the company trading for the longest continuous period without ever bringing a single production ready product to market. But to be fair the new chap does deserve a reasonable period of grace, and just perhaps that VW scandal will concentrate a few hearts and minds. But we still don't have a demo vehicle that incorporates all our tech.

[bargainbob] 11/12/2015 13:55

a consortium of torotrak investors , have took the plunge and are now challenging the management with their own innovative share traction technology.

The two new proprietary innovations , Steer Clear and Investment Disconnect TM provides the holder with useless shares and utter contempt for management.

a spokesman for the new group, advises all investors to follow its new innovations and avoid ever owning anything to do with Torotrak.When pushed one investor said that includes that bloody paperweight.

[bodgit] 11/12/2015 12:32

Extract from above referred article

"Torotrak will continue to develop both technologies to further advance its V-Charge variable speed supercharger system." .... so how long before this is production ready then? Hmmmm, good luck all.

[lefrene] 11/12/2015 10:48

It's the relationship with Univance that is the comfort blanket here. Plainly Univance are putting time, money, and their reputation on the line in backing ivt.

[fredd] 11/12/2015 08:26

Torotrak Group announces new proprietary traction drive technologies
by Autocar Pro News Desk Dec 11, 2015

Low carbon vehicle technology company, Torotrak Group, this week presented innovative technologies for low-cost, high efficiency drive systems at the Berlin CTI symposium and exposition. These developments will allow Torotrak’s V-Charge variable supercharging technology to compete with the latest boosting solutions coming to market, but without their integration challenges. In a technical paper titled, ‘Low-cost developments in full-toroidal variator technology’, Chris Gaskell, one of the design engineers responsible for new concepts and intellectual property for the Torotrak Group, introduced and described two new proprietary technologies, called PitchSteer and DriveDisconnect™. PitchSteer is a low-cost method of control that reduces the actuation power requirement of the Torotrak variable drive for devices such as superchargers; use of a 10W actuator means that cost, weight and losses are minimised. DriveDisconnect provides a zero output speed capability within the variator itself to provide the functionality of a disconnect clutch without the cost or weight penalty. Torotrak will continue to develop both technologies to further advance its V-Charge variable speed supercharger system. “In a main-drive transmission application we typically control variator torque by modulating hydraulic pressure to give exceptional functionality and driveability. Most likely there are other devices requiring hydraulics in the transmission, such as clutches, and so this is no problem. However, for a small auxiliary drive this is not the case and we need to strip out all the cost we can” explained Gaskell. “PitchSteer enables the use of a single, low cost mechanical actuator with very low power consumption. The actuator draws only 10W whilst changing ratio, and negligible actuation power is required to maintain a constant ratio.” Torotrak has validated PitchSteer in one of its V-Charge supercharger units with a variator ratio range of 10, achieving a rapid rate of ratio change of just 300ms for a full sweep. In addition to minimising the actuation power, the wide ratio range capability allows the driven device to be reduced to a very low speed relative to the input whenever its function is not required, and therefore parasitic losses are greatly reduced. The second new technology, DriveDisconnect, provides the function of a disconnect clutch, further reducing parasitic losses by disconnecting the variator output when the driven device is not required. As an integral function of the variator, DriveDisconnect does not add weight or cost, markedly differentiating it from a typical electromagnetic clutch, which can add 3kg to the mass and around 30 Euros to the cost of an auxiliary drive, even in high volume automotive production. “DriveDisconnect provides an extra function for free,” commented Gaskell. “Our development work for both technologies has proven that we can offer unique CVT functionality that addresses the needs of our customers, for example in the variable supercharging space.” The same low power actuator can provide both the PitchSteer and DriveDisconnect functions. Torotrak believes DriveDisconnect could also be used in other applications, citing variable speed flywheel drives and main drive CVTs and IVTs as likely beneficiaries. Torotrak Group shared exhibition facilities at the CTI Symposium, Berlin 2015 with Univance Corporation, which is productionising the discs and rollers that are the key traction components of full toroidal variator technology, as well as value-engineering complete variator modules. Univance hardware targeting off-highway main drive transmission applications was on display at the Symposium. - See more at: