By Jason Zweig
If the coronavirus lockdown has frozen your investing plans,
you're in good company. Charlie Munger is watching and waiting,
too.
Mr. Munger, vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and Warren
Buffett's longtime business partner, likes to say that one of the
keys to great investing results is "sitting on your ass." That
means doing nothing the vast majority of the time, but buying with
" aggression" when bargains abound.
I spoke this week by phone with Mr. Munger, who turned 96 years
old on Jan. 1. He sounded as sharp and vigorous as ever, and as
usual he drew bright lines between what he's fairly certain of and
what he thinks belongs in the "too-hard pile" -- where he and Mr.
Buffett consign questions they don't know how to answer. Overall,
Mr. Munger made it clear that he regards this as a time for caution
rather than action.
In 2008-09, the years of the last financial crisis, Berkshire
spent tens of billions of dollars investing in (among others)
General Electric Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and buying
Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp. outright.
Will Berkshire step up now to buy businesses on the same
scale?
"Well, I would say basically we're like the captain of a ship
when the worst typhoon that's ever happened comes," Mr. Munger told
me. "We just want to get through the typhoon, and we'd rather come
out of it with a whole lot of liquidity. We're not playing, 'Oh
goody, goody, everything's going to hell, let's plunge 100% of the
reserves [into buying businesses].'"
He added, "Warren wants to keep Berkshire safe for people who
have 90% of their net worth invested in it. We're always going to
be on the safe side. That doesn't mean we couldn't do something
pretty aggressive or seize some opportunity. But basically we will
be fairly conservative. And we'll emerge on the other side very
strong."
Surely hordes of corporate executives must be calling Berkshire
begging for capital?
"No, they aren't," said Mr. Munger. "The typical reaction is
that people are frozen. Take the airlines. They don't know what the
hell's doing. They're all negotiating with the government, but
they're not calling Warren. They're frozen. They've never seen
anything like it. Their playbook does not have this as a
possibility."
He repeated for emphasis, "Everybody's just frozen. And the
phone is not ringing off the hook. Everybody's just frozen in the
position they're in."
With Berkshire's vast holdings in railroads, real estate,
utilities, insurance and other industries, Mr. Buffett and Mr.
Munger may have more and better data on U.S. economic activity than
anyone else, with the possible exception of the Federal Reserve.
But Mr. Munger wouldn't even hazard a guess as to how long the
downturn might last or how bad it could get.
"Nobody in America's ever seen anything else like this," said
Mr. Munger. "This thing is different. Everybody talks as if they
know what's going to happen, and nobody knows what's going to
happen."
Is another Great Depression possible?
"Of course we're having a recession," said Mr. Munger. "The only
question is how big it's going to be and how long it's going to
last. I think we do know that this will pass. But how much damage,
and how much recession, and how long it will last, nobody
knows."
He added, "I don't think we'll have a long-lasting Great
Depression. I think government will be so active that we won't have
one like that. But we may have a different kind of a mess. All this
money-printing may start bothering us."
Can the government reduce its role in the economy once the virus
is under control?
"I don't think we know exactly what the macroeconomic
consequences are going to be," said Mr. Munger. "I do think, sooner
or later, we'll have an economy back, which will be a moderate
economy. It's quite possible that never again -- not again in a
long time -- will we have a level of employment again like we just
lost. We may never get that back for all practical purposes. I
don't know."
Berkshire won't escape unscathed. "This will cause us to shutter
some businesses," Mr. Munger said. "We have a few bad businesses
that...we could be tolerant of as members of the family. Somebody
else would have already shut them down. We've got a few businesses,
small ones, we won't reopen when this is over."
Mr. Munger told me: "I don't have the faintest idea whether the
stock market is going to go lower than the old lows or whether it's
not." The coronavirus shutdown is "something we have to live
through," letting the chips fall where they may, he said. "What
else can you do?"
Investors can take a few small steps to restore a sense of
control -- by harvesting tax losses, for instance -- but, for now,
sitting still alongside Mr. Munger seems the wisest course.
Write to Jason Zweig at intelligentinvestor@wsj.com
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
April 17, 2020 10:14 ET (14:14 GMT)
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