Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[rheumking] 21/10/2019 14:06

Yes it’s 94.8 to buy
On the way back up ?

[markyboy5] 21/10/2019 13:54

Can’t buy 5k at the moment

[dreamtwister] 21/10/2019 13:22

ramping clowns.

[tim3416] 21/10/2019 13:01

Lol loggy, I suppose you consider yourself a sophisticated troll :-)

[johnveals] 21/10/2019 12:54

In an aside from Susan Bowan at the Q&A after the AGM she made it clear she thought there was too much activity on Twitter.

[runthejoules] 21/10/2019 12:44

I'm glad Neill is off twitter and doing some work. And enough to be getting on with without announcing every non-material collaboration. A deal will come when we least expect it. Company's funded for another 4 years, hopefully no more acquisitions so more need for fundraising. Sitting on my hands. Glalth.

[schmally] 21/10/2019 12:36

Cue Loggy, to inform us that graphene is only being sold for the equivalent of a Jubbly and a Curly Wurly per kg

[schmally] 21/10/2019 12:33

Good to see there's still huge demand from investors wanting exposure in the graphene sector. Paragraf have done well to raise £12 million at their stage of development. I noted their CEO's comment "Currently the company is pre revenue. But this investment takes us into a new growth phase and future earnings in the billions,”

If Paragraf are targeting sales in the billions for a far narrower range of applications than VRS, then imagine the potential sales for multiple global applications :)

[club sandwich] 21/10/2019 12:26

Oh BTW - happy Trafalgar Day...

[ic0gcds00] 21/10/2019 12:19

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/1177176/paragraf-graphene-production-electronic-tech-firm-dr-simon-thomas

[billwave] 21/10/2019 12:14

And it appears you must be sat between us as the voice of reason then? I'll leave you to it.

[tim3416] 21/10/2019 12:13

Lol billwave tell us something we don't know ;-)

[schmally] 21/10/2019 12:09

Posting together again! Are you sat next to each other?

[schmally] 21/10/2019 12:08

Loggy,

To do so, would be to simply have to repeat dozens and dozens or previous reposts to your endless regurgitated questions, which have been responded to on numerous occasions.

I'm also still waiting for you to answer my previous very simple question with a yes or no, so I'll ask again.

Do you believe Neill is deliberately deceiving investors and the DIT?

I'll also add another couple. Do you believe BIGT is a fake Chinese organisation? If so, who do you believe is misleading who? Are the Chinese misleading Matt & Neil, or are Matt & Neill misleading investors?

Answer clearly please

[billwave] 21/10/2019 11:59

Ok Timothy and co. I guess I should take some comfort in that I have at least been described as eloquent and only accused of being one of loggy's co conspirators rather than one of his alter egos. I've raised my concerns, again, unfortunately as usual rather than being addressed they are brushed aside in favour of just placing trust and blind faith in NR to deliver. I'm by no means desperate. Currently due to not being able to satisfactorily alleviate my concerns here I've positioned myself fairly well hedged toward either outcome and awaiting news of something tangible. I am happy for you to remain so positive in your investment and I shall watch the progress or lack of it unfold with great interest. Good luck all.

[loglorry1] 21/10/2019 11:37

@schmally its really easy to write that "Pretend investors only posting to knowingly tout misinformation" but can you actually point to any such misinformation?

Can you show any of the points I've been making to be untrue?

[loglorry1] 21/10/2019 11:35

Actually I've been making the same points since around 140p but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

I have no problem with VRS at at 20p valuation. That sounds about right for the traditional loss making business plus a bit of option value for the Graphene.

You'll notice that the bull case is pretty much 100% predicated on the assumption that "Graphene is going to change the world" + "Neill tell us VRS has the best graphene and only we can make it" = "Shares are really really cheap".

Anyone consider the fact that perhaps Neill is just promoting the company as CEO?

It's also quite obvious that Neill is pretty much the only person making these claims. It was Patrick Abbott and Neill for a while but Patrick got fired to spend more time trying to stay out of prison it seems.

The verification process was just a validation of their own tech sheet. Terrance Barkin who carried it out says that to strengthen polymers around 15-20 layers is best!

The whole China thing is just one more promise after another. I've no doubt they are interested at some level but other than what Neill says I can't see much evidence that they are very serious. It's very common on AIM. I suspect the Chinese are a lot more interested in the research at GEIC and MoU (They don't need VRS for that Tungshu are Teir 1 members) than buying any Nanene.

[schmally] 21/10/2019 11:28

Bill, All genuine alternative views welcomed. Pretend investors only posting to knowingly tout misinformation masquarading as concerned holders are not however. Like most genuine LTH's, I'm not blind to the risks of VRS. Indeed I re-evaluate the balance of risk v reward regularly. Go and have another strategy call with Kempster and the gang to coordinate your next few posts.

[tim3416] 21/10/2019 11:27

Lol billwave you really are sounding desperate now. You are nothing more than a troll whose presence on this board is purely to cause mischief and cause disruption to try to affect sentiment here. However eloquent you try to make your posts sound, the content and intent is still the same. As for loggy he's been spouting the same bile since the 20p days and has just become a pantomime villain with absolutely no credibility. ;-)

[billwave] 21/10/2019 11:14

And I think loggy was suggesting that the share price was artificially pumped to highs by the over promotion, exuberance and enthusiasm of one man, not that everything else around him does not exist. As there has been no sales or revenue generated to date, despite the hype and suggested possibilities, the current share price and market cap can not be attributed to anything else. Does anyone disagree with that? Without sales and revenue being generated, I'd say quite soon due to the number of investors losing patience, the current share price will not be sustained. Is there anyone in denial of this? You could always carry on pretending, it appears to be working for you so far ;-)

[billwave] 21/10/2019 11:01

schmally - There you go, one alternative view to be frowned upon and barely tolerated, more than one person sharing some aspects of an alternative view and it must be a conspiracy. So much for hoping to introduce some objectivity. Ignore all of the factual concerns raised and carry on pretending everything is just fine here, it's your choice.

[aquaesulis01] 21/10/2019 10:56

Interesting NMC Health Capital Market Day presentation out today that includes a slide entitled "Next Big Health Care Revolution is Wearables"

hxxps://nmc.ae/investor-relations and click on the CEO CMD Financial presentation