Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[hoverflyman] 21/9/2019 19:39

O/T and off the wall:
I shall not be attending the AGM this year yet remain fully and patiently invested. My patience was tested by attending last year’s AGM followed by a number of unconsummated expectations such that I felt the team had been “pulling my string” somewhat and indeed over-winding my spring. I enjoyed the dopamine rushes of expectation but these always had their corresponding troughs and I have developed a healthy scepticism about Neill’s timelines; whilst his large shareholding ensures full commitment to the company’s success I feel this and his optimism have sometimes led to his over enthusiastic predictions in defence of the share price. I prefer it this way around than the paucity of information often available to investors (e.g. IQE) and have little doubt that the validity of his strategy and the pre-eminence of Nanene will ultimately dazzle us all, but have to remain sanguine about our prospects for next week, next month and even next year if my health is not to be tested (clearly others have succumbed to the tension).

As regards the fifth revolution:
whilst driving last August I listened to an interview of James Burke in which he alluded to The Replicator, a nano technology fabricator that he anticipates in 50 years time will be able to manipulate atoms to produce any conceivable object from the ingredients oxygen, earth, water and a little energy from acetylene gas. Wanting to refresh my memory I have found this piece in which he sketches the development of society and our economy over the last few decades and his vision of the future in which The Replicator will feature large, residing in everybody’s garden shed and producing anything desired for free which will present challenges to governments and our happiness alike.



At 20.56 mins into the piece, he states that the first atomic scale factory robot has just been built, and David Lee, Royal Society Researcher at Manchester University, confirms that he has produced a molecular robot built from 150 atoms which can be programmed to build other molecules; just as well he has 2000 nano-materials close to hand, but as Scrutable remarks there is going to be quite a long development phase. Being 63y I doubt I’ll see the culmination of such development but for the youngsters (and newly weds) what an exciting future awaits. In the interim for me prospects for VRS are just as unbelievably exciting.

[1teepee] 21/9/2019 19:37

15.38 We will talk about future revenue streams with our shareholders at the agm. That means Monday or Tuesday will be the rns we all hoped for.Thanks neill in advance:)

[laginaneil] 21/9/2019 18:34

Thanks Serrita for input on concrete - very interesting.

[superg1] 21/9/2019 18:13

It looks like scientists have found the AIM hype graveyard.

Good to know a real one is on the way.

[superg1] 21/9/2019 18:07

Oh darn, I thought that was Virgil for a moment checking the rocket engines.

[verger] 21/9/2019 17:58

The importance of Graphene is being realised and politicians have recently made reference to it. I am sure the kind of deal VRS has set up is very attractive to our government and they would want to highlight it. Hence politics is involved whether we like it or not. I personally think it will do us good. The timing of the deal, therefore, most probably is not solely in the hands of VRS. But I interpret Neill’s comments as meaning that everything is in place as far as he is concerned. That is very positive in itself.

[alchemy] 21/9/2019 17:00

I do see what you mean!

[rheumking] 21/9/2019 16:59

Scrut
Agree wholeheartedly with your comments about timeframe . Personally I am looking at parking my considerable investment in here for 3-5 years and anticipate taking out a lot more than I have in now.
I guess in defence of the impatient is that there was a lot of excitement put out in Twitter etc that set expectations high of rapid progress but think those of us with cool heads anticipate a large but slower rise in share price from here
Gently does it

[serratia] 21/9/2019 16:45

Another problem seen in the arab states relates to water. If you desalinate water it is free from the usual metal ions such as Calcium etc. Deionised water is corrosive as it attracts soluble ions out of whatever it's in contact with. Some time back buildings were suffering as the desalinated water was run back into the ground. This was happening to such an extent that the water/moisture level in the ground was rising and pulling ions out of the concrete foundations.
I know they've been building treatment works so don't know the present state of play. Graphene would inhibit the contact between water and concrete.
One other consequence of desalination is the salts removed go back into the sea. There's sufficient activity going on so that the salt levels in the surrounding sea have risen with detrimental effects on the local environment.

[serratia] 21/9/2019 16:35

In general terms if say Graphene doubled the strength you'd use half the sand. For something to rust you need moisture + oxygen. Graphene will make concrete less permeable to moisture so in principal less rust

[laginaneil] 21/9/2019 15:40

Hello Folks,



Today I listened with disgust about the theft of sand from Indonesia and
various other areas of the world to fund the expansion of Singapore which now has
20% more land area than it did some years back.

Also mentioned was the use of said sand in building like crazy in India etc.

I wondered if the high salt in the sand caused a problem for Graphene in concrete?

Could graphene on rebar stop corrosion in high salt sand?

Could the extra strength of graphene in concrete, better properties in water and maybe special 3d shapes in concrete floors to use concrete in compression all
help reduce the concrete AND sand needed?

I previously just thought in terms of reduced CO2 from reduced amount of concrete
but it would seem the world is running out of sand as well!

[ad631] 21/9/2019 15:33

Re: Internal timeline: hxxp://total-market-solutions.com/2019/08/23/versarien-ceo-interview-3/.....@4:26 onwards (30 seconds+). So 'forecasting BIGt arrival by reference to a date , not logical imho' Not logical? Should take this up with NR:)

[scrutable] 21/9/2019 14:40

I recently became significantly more annoyed by the rising tide of impatience on this board and posted some examples which illustrated that 10-20 years was a reasonable time frame within which to expect commercialisation of a break through in science.

Surprisingly, there was practically no comment here - just a further string, with Club-Sandwich as the most vociferous and therefore dangerous - complaining that the company was standing still and becoming less and less credible,whereas it is thundering ahead on multiple fronts at an unprecedented pace - IN RELATIVE TERMS..

I value my time too much as it runs out, to list them all (and this board has rapped my knuckles when I mentioned one or two), - but everyone of the excitements I have found of the 40 or so of developing companies on AIM yet is, nevertheless, a positive long term investment tip based on a predictably, exponentially, rising revenue, and still spikes, in both directions, to test investors' nerves and patience..

The point I am making is that the naysayers will have difficulty finding ANY company, either in alternative energy, physics, chemistry, bioscience, or software etc, which is the start-up for a disruptive business and which has reached £100m cap within the same time frame that VRS has been a quoted stock.

Don't they read anything worth reading and do any research of their own to back up Warren Buffet's wise aphorism about impatience?

[ic0gcds00] 21/9/2019 13:27

ICFO researchers have recently demonstrated a new class of graphene-based flexible and transparent wearable devices that are conformable to the skin and can provide continuous and accurate measurements of multiple human vital signs.ICFO's new flexible and transparent graphene health tracker imageThese devices can measure heart rate, respiration rate and blood pulse oxygenation, as well as exposure to UV radiation from the sun. While the device measures the different parameters, the read-out is visualized and stored on a mobile phone interface connected to the wearable via Bluetooth. In addition, the device can operate battery-free since it is charged wirelessly through the phone.

[ic0gcds00] 21/9/2019 13:24

Films of platinum only two atoms thick supported by graphene could enable fuel cell catalysts with unprecedented catalytic activity and longevity, according to a study published recently by researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology.

[alchemy] 21/9/2019 12:41

AGM dates are fixed ahead, well ahead, arrival of contracts are , for little uns dealing with big uns , asychronous. So forecasting BIGt arrival by reference to a date , not logical imho.Unless, the Theatrics of it, has been agreed?

[woodpeckers] 21/9/2019 09:38

Thanks Kermokid, it’s really kind of you to say so.

It really is important to try to take the emotion out of investing. This is understandably difficult when we are handing over our hard earned and the outcome will perhaps quite dramatically effect the sort of retirement we can look forward to.

I think the worry is usually based around whether we feel we have all the true facts. That is why it really is important to do your own research and also why going to things like the AGM and other investor events is an absolute must in my book. There really is no substitute for meeting the people you are putting your trust in.

Of course the managers of the Cavendish AIM Fund will have done that, so knowing that they have recently made Versarien now their 7th biggest holding gives added comfort.

[ad631] 21/9/2019 08:05

At the very least I'm expecting one RNS next week - an AGM statement for those not attending. Don't expect a BIGT update every day but this Tuesday would be appropriate.

[1teepee] 21/9/2019 00:28

I am serious, look it up

[1teepee] 20/9/2019 22:18

In fact. Everyone get a Trickline. So much fun!

[1teepee] 20/9/2019 22:17

No. I am too busy on my Trickline:) my presence would not effect anything apart from cost me loads of cash which I haven't got yet. Maybe when versarien has made me a millionaire and I don't have to work I will come to one

[1teepee] 20/9/2019 22:13

Everyday matey;)

[high park] 20/9/2019 22:04

After a week of ridiculously low volume and a drop of 11 pence, yesterday was invigorated with high volume and a rise of 11 pence. Today ridiculously low volume. Is this the new normal?

[high park] 20/9/2019 22:00

"The Stock Market can stay irrational much longer than you can stay solvent." Another quote worthy of Warren Buffet.