Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 04/4/2019 20:36

PS

If it helps, I'm reading a report where the forecast for graphene is tens of billions with a huge amount of info that we haven't began to scratch the surface on here yet.

But just as an example of the forecast range to show it's a lottery.

Low and high ranges.

100 to 2,300 tonnes of supercapitors.

They don't know but think the range for the market as a whole is huge.

[evergreen8] 04/4/2019 20:35

This is an open invitation to all the shorters who have been comfortable with their historic actions in the pursuit of improving their purse. You can use this board to declare your outrage against, or alternatively chose to ally yourself with, the low life individual who lied, stole, schemed and threatened to harm the Down syndrome son of a man who fought for his country as a reward for going the extra mile to help a stranger. It is a simple choice declare your outrage or by your silence be known to be Of the same species.

[axotyl] 04/4/2019 19:53

Smallfry, a newcomer to the board might get the impression from your post that you're calling Neill a 'shorter'...maybe tweak the meaning?

[dgduncan] 04/4/2019 19:22

And on that note - if you have not voted then here is the chance :

[spike_1] 04/4/2019 19:10

Well said smallfry - excellent post !!

[smallfry1] 04/4/2019 19:02

Dear Neil I know that you sometimes drop into the BB.
I also know that professionalism prevents you saying things you would like to say.
So let me do you the honours. What bunch of lowlife Snakebelly skum you shorters are
So desperate to fill your pockets you will mortgage your soul. Have a go at me that's fine even question the direction I am taking the company but attacking a member of the team over unproven allegations that stinks of real desperation.
The LTH of the company have given their loyalty and continue to do so and it is that loyalty that we intend of repay and repay we will with orders bigger that the imagination of many. So all you shorters out there get ready to starve.

[alchemy] 04/4/2019 18:51

Per ad versarienity ad fortuna .

[spike_1] 04/4/2019 18:45

124 - you have to be kidding. Didn't you see the number of mobility scooters outside the AGM venue, and the queue of ambulances after it finished.

[woodpeckers] 04/4/2019 18:41

chumbo, ha,ha. - all young at heart which is what matters!

[chumbo1] 04/4/2019 18:27

Woody, when you did your holdings survey did you not also record the shareholder body demographic and calculate our mean age as 124?

[spike_1] 04/4/2019 18:24

Chumbo / grabster:

Versenility A condition the main symptom of which is the inability to recollect the bad old days before becoming a versarienist

[woodpeckers] 04/4/2019 18:19

Chumbo, definitely not, but Versariability is the ability of Versarienists to realise that minor problems can easily be overcome.

[spike_1] 04/4/2019 18:19

Grabster: EXCELLENT !!!

And perhaps this:

Vergisarien a person yet to experience that huge feeling of warmth inside that all Versarientists feel, and hence their near constant smile.

[chumbo1] 04/4/2019 17:55

In this company, what about Versenility?

[grabster] 04/4/2019 17:28

Versarienism: a recognized religion. Its followers smile a lot.
Versarienist: a follower of Versarienism.
Versarienista: a trendy word for the more ardent Versarienist.
Versarienology: the science behind Versarien and its culture.
Versarienologist: a scientist in, or student of, Versarienology.
Versarienitis: a condition that involves a swelling of the company's share price. (Some have tried to eradicate this condition but without consistent success). For short people it can be fatal.
Versarienity: Serenity arising from awareness and deeper knowledge of Versarien.
Versarienergy: Vigour experienced by active Versarienists.

[ch1rp] 04/4/2019 17:23

Bet Neil is furious:(

[davemac3] 04/4/2019 17:11

SuperG, since you have propagated an incorrect post (65545) in 65956, I should point out that your original post was for 13-C labelled graphene which is likely to be many multiples of the cost of the 12-C isotope

[bobsworth] 04/4/2019 17:03

Just emailed Mr Barkan([e-mail]) about his comments in his interview "The Future of Graphene" and asked if he was refering to VRS in light of this weeks announcement that Versarien plc (AIM: VRS), the advanced materials engineering UK group, is the first graphene company in the world to successfully complete the Graphene Council's "Verified Graphene Producer" programme (the "Programme").

Probably wasting my time but keen to seek clarifaction from a Graphene expert!!!

[robinhood69] 04/4/2019 17:01

Anyone who has been a lithium bug over the last two- three years will tell you that all the demand figures have constantly been well below demand from 2020. Even now 2019 has started with Toyota sharing hybrid tech to easy the market. VW wanted EMH in 2017, but Babis the Commie stopped that. Now EU are crying out to stop Chinese domination and the EMH lithium supply will still not be online until 2022/23.
Demand for lithium in just batteries and storage is huge.
Now look at the last two weeks general graphene developments. 40+ new ideas and thats just in a couple of weeks.
Everyday a new need for high grade and low grade graphene comes out.
The market dont understand many companies are only at a poor graphite stage. This will change but NOT in time to stop the big early movers taking market share and the really good graphene companies being bought out just as has happened with lithium.
Bottom to top full processing to product and that company will make a Billion.

[festario] 04/4/2019 16:59

Keep that stock market SHUT......Until we have some more positive news, seriously!

[1teepee] 04/4/2019 16:58

Or maybe you don't know either . No one knows for real yet. And your calculations are wrong because you don't take into account the fact that the more you buy the cheaper it gets, plus new ways will be invented which are cheaper.Paragraph can produce 8 inch sheets of monolayer Graphene

[festario] 04/4/2019 16:58

Neill retweeted the article, I wonder what his view of that total market forecast is?He obviously doesn't believe it, otherwise he'd have sold all his shares.

[pshevlin] 04/4/2019 16:56

Thanks. Trillions are my preference. Maybe that's where the mixup is? ;-)

[superg1] 04/4/2019 16:50

ps

You have to take the forecasts with a monster sized pinch of salt.

EG IDtech ex forecast 3,800 tonnes needed by 2026 = £220 mill.

10% of that would be single layer sheets, IE CVD.

10% is 380 tonnes of CVD, CVD will be for electronics like chips.

If you saw my post the other day CVD came out $657 million per gram, or $657 billion per kg.

If idtechex mean by value re 10% then it's a .03 of a gram market by 2026. If they mean by weight then that CVD graphene by weight currently would cost.

360,000,000 x 657,000,000 = 236,000 trillion.

That is 10,700 times the US debt.

So someone somewhere in their forecasts, is out by just a smidge.

In other words ignore it, they haven't the slightest clue what they are talking about.

[grabster] 04/4/2019 16:43

"..you would think that somebody in charge of the Graphene Flagship might have a slightly more informed stance.."

Dunno about that. If there are hundreds of companies, each one guessing at how much they might make and how much they might sell at at what price, and many of them working in secret, I think it highly unlikely that there is any such thing as an informed stance. It might be wiser to just say the market could be "huge" or "extremely large" rather than foolishly guess at numbers that can look so silly later. I don't believe any of the various numbers I've seen anyway - partly because they are so various - some talking millions, others billions.