Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[jaadro] 03/4/2019 13:25

Let's all do 1 buy and see what will happen (-:

[pshevlin] 03/4/2019 13:23

1 buy. RNS booked? Wishful thinking?

[woodpeckers] 03/4/2019 13:20

Joules, re Bed & ISA, If you contact your broker, most will only charge one dealing charge as opposed to the two you will incur by selling now and then buying again in your LISA. Contact your broker but I think you'll find you won't 'lose' as many shares by doing it this way.
Here is AJBell's blurb on it..

[fireball xl5] 03/4/2019 13:14

Personally I can’t wait for Tom Daley to don a pair of Nanene enhanced Speedo’s. Hear the Rip.

[matheus7777] 03/4/2019 12:25

This week we spiked 30p on news that not many outside of the industry would be aware of. Imagine what the share price will be doing when Lebron James and his NBA mates are wearing the latest fashion must have nanene branded sports apparel across the tv screens of the USA and beyond. Exciting times indeed

[nemo19] 03/4/2019 12:10

From Versarien twitter page:
Engineering for high speed devices

[grabster] 03/4/2019 12:08

"otherwise I am sure reasonable people like grabster and Spike lost their temper because of my remark"

Don't kid yerself. Didn't lose my temper - it ain't summat I do. Rather pompous of you to presume that anything you say could have any such effect. Once again you are misrepresenting other posters, as you so often do and which has been rumbled by many. (Seems to be your trademark).

[phoenixs] 03/4/2019 12:08

rocket fuel. absolutely, couldn't agree more. Nearly all of us are on the same page and want the same result, so here is to VRS and all that the company has done and what I believe it is doing and will be doing.

[spike_1] 03/4/2019 12:07

mryl: re your I get that comments on price movement is a sensitive topic, and otherwise I am sure reasonable people like grabster and Spike lost their temper because of my remark.
You really are quite a comic - keep it up.

[mryl] 03/4/2019 12:05

Grabster
"too much exciting stuff going on behind the scenes at Versarien."

At least something we both agree on.
Now please let me be.

[grabster] 03/4/2019 12:05

Nemo19 - although parts of that article are perfectly correct, it does sound like the authors are perhaps trying to excuse some of the makers whose products are going to have to be relabelled once tested ;-)

[nemo19] 03/4/2019 12:05

A bit of light reading! Not had a chance to look at it myself yet.

Graphenea

The Graphene Flagship Annual Report is now online. See how far applications of #graphene have gone! @GrapheneCA #optoelectronics #batteries #energy #sensors #technology #biomedical #composites #spintronics #electronics #photonics #innovation #coatings

[mryl] 03/4/2019 12:02

Phoenix, yes of course he is not going to name companies, that would be wholly unprofessional, what he wrote is just the clever British way of saying it though, which I am all for.
I get that comments on price movement is a sensitive topic, and otherwise I am sure reasonable people like grabster and Spike lost their temper because of my remark. It was just what I thought *could* happen. But to be honest I am almost always wrong about short term price movements, so if I have a feeling it may retrace, probably mean it's going to moon. That's why I avoid trading as much as possible, almost always wrong.

[rocket fuel] 03/4/2019 12:00

Calm down, dears, we are shaping up for a return to the 180’s and beyond, here!

[nemo19] 03/4/2019 11:57

An independent view on the graphene war
BY Liam Critchley. 1 APRIL 2019

Is ‘fake graphene’ really a problem, or is more going on?

There has been a recent ‘declaration of war’ announced on fake graphene. This follows a study in Advanced Materials that many products sold as high grade graphene – single-atom layers of graphite flakes – is mostly graphite powder.

Yes, there are some issues with the graphene supply, with cowboy companies passing off graphite as graphene. But every manufacturing industry is the same and there are always going to be bad companies regardless of the industry. Some of the supply is good, some of it is not, and there are certain regions of the world where the output is worse. However, the notion that all low-grade graphene is misleading: indeed, without multi-layered graphene the industry would stagnate.

The term ‘war’ brings negative connotations to graphene, and more negatively worded press is not what the graphene industry needs. The graphene industry has also changed dynamically over the past 12–18 months. When the study on fake graphene was started, the industry was focusing a lot on the layer number as a function of quality. Now, while there is still some link to layer number and graphene quality, it is not as important as first thought. Rather, the industry views all types of graphene that have less than 10 layers, regardless of their platelet size or degree of functionalisation or oxidation, as ‘graphenes’.2 This range, determined by the International Organization for Standarization (ISO), also extends out to other 2D materials.
While there are companies that produce graphitic platelets, there are a significant number that produce multi-layered graphene under 10 layers. Before the ISO standard came in, many would put multi-layered graphene into the ‘bad quality’ bracket of graphene. But, as it turns out, this type is just as useful as single-layer and few-layered graphene.

Multi-layered graphene has showcased its usefulness as an additive in many composites, including clothing, absorption materials, tyres and even road surfaces. Its lower cost makes it more feasible for many applications than single-layer graphene, and it is demonstrating the value of the material in end-user products. This in turn has improved market confidence in higher-quality graphene for use high-tech electronics – meaning products once looked down on could be key in ensuring the material is adopted in the future.

Unfortunately, many end-users don’t know what type of graphene they want – CVD, multi-layer, graphene oxide, etc – and will often end up choosing the wrong type for their application. So, more education of the end-user companies, and the public in general, is required to show how graphene can be best exploited. This will also help to increase market confidence, and as the industry grows and more international standards will take effect (physical and measurement standards take a while for any material, never mind one with multiple forms). This will see the cowboys slowly phased out due to the competition in the industry – as there is a large oversupply at the moment – and the majority of the graphite products in the market being passed off as graphene will become a thing of the past.

References
1 Kauling A P et al, Adv. Mater., 2018, 30, 1803784 (DOI: 10.1002/adma.201803784)

2 Baker J, plenary talk at the Global Graphene Expo, Austin, October 2018

[grabster] 03/4/2019 11:56

"..You are just, like grabster, blinded by your anger. Just stay off the keyboard and breathe.."

Nah, I ain't angry - always smiling me ;-)
Thanks for advising me to breathe, doctor - but I already been doing that for seven decades. Won't be staying off the keyboard though - too much exciting stuff going on behind the scenes at Versarien.

;-)

[phoenixs] 03/4/2019 11:48

myrl,

I think that the word "many" is the key. There is no mention of any competitor by name or insinuation. There are hundreds of companies around the world that process graphite to make powders etc which are sometimes mistakenly called graphene. Now that there is a recognised standard for graphene to which Versarien are the first to be formally recognise, I think that it is justified for Neill to use the word "many".

Just one other point that I would raise with you is what you were writing about yesterday I believe. Monday's rns was a game changer in that it put Versarien at the top of the graphene producers worldwide. I get your point about significant commercial orders but I found your comment in respect of share price movements rather odd. I reckon that Miton is out of the stock, there are a number of new investors who have been buying and I think that more are coming on board, so the share price could easily rise more even before an rns confirming a commercial deal.

[spike_1] 03/4/2019 11:45

mryl: I am not blinded by anger - I am quite relaxed, but thank you for your concern it is always appreciated.

[tini5] 03/4/2019 11:45

Spike, angry?! lmao.

[festario] 03/4/2019 11:41

The clue is in the wide spread.The last time I could sell 100k was on the plunge to 67p in Feb. We all know what happened after that!

[scottishfield] 03/4/2019 11:40

Didn't try 100k pshevlin, but can get 123p for 90k

[mryl] 03/4/2019 11:39

No campaign to discredit you. I just state a fact. You are just, like grabster, blinded by your anger. Just stay off the keyboard and breathe, you'll see I am not your enemy despite what you are desperately trying to convince yourself.

[pshevlin] 03/4/2019 11:39

Can you still sell 100k Fest?

[pshevlin] 03/4/2019 11:38

I think all the conkers dropped off the tree over winter so no point shaking the tree now.

[tini5] 03/4/2019 11:34

Mind those fingers Fest...don't want a repeat of last year.