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[grabster] 17/2/2019 19:53

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Thank you for clear and prompt response, much appreciated. I recall there was mention of a two year time limit on control of kit (at AGM or site visit), with the clock ticking. Is this still the case and does it give any underlying concern that could lead to an extension?
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Clock not started until we agree the terms at the right moment, 2yrs is just an indication of the norm. We are working closely with a number of machine builders.Neill Ricketts added,
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[grabster] 17/2/2019 19:43

We were told the company expects to make further announcements (plural) in this first quarter of 2019 regarding the Aecom project.

Only 6 weeks of the quarter left now; 30 trading days.

[f3rdinand] 17/2/2019 19:07

And as sure as night follows day, these same 'investors' will be scrambling to get back in when ISO news hits or Aecom orders are confirmed... or even the supply runs out and we start heading north again! They may be lucky and gain a few shares but I'd be surprised if it gets much lower! GLA

[magic beans] 17/2/2019 18:40

Billwave, only 87 days ago you wrote:
"Inputting the figures to my data model comes out with multi billions. Reading all the news, researching the collabs, partners and understanding the globally reaching market place being formed before our eyes also leads me to believe this is without doubt the stock with more potential to grow beyond the market cap of any company on any financial index in the world past or present. Potential is absolutely huge. Open your eyes, very exciting things are happening".

Since then, we've only had positive news that actually backs up your opinion. From what I can see, you invested a large amount here and it's the share price that you've lost faith with, not the company (same for a few other posters on here)? Sorry to sound patronising, but it just seems illogical to do your research, find a company with this much potential and then sell a few days later because the share price has gone down. Surely that's the time to buy more?

[superg1] 17/2/2019 18:30

Bill

I'd say keep an eye out for Aecom and the other 5 stacked up as the current focus. They could drop at any time.

That's a message to say keep em peeled not buy pre news. While I despair at jittery headless chicken PIs I wouldn't want out before such news hits. We all should make our own decisions.

There could be a few like you. Who knows where the share price could be before the news. What I do know is that Miton are highly unlikely to be about to supply PIs with shares when they want some.

Katie might help if the share price is rising strongly and MMs are shouting for stock but she only has few left too, so she won't be able to help much.

If Miton had their 15 mill now and were selling aggressively then leaving seems logical. Miton near their end and supply having been in play for over 50 mill share and 18 months of it.It isn't a logical time to exit imo. I prefer the Buffet view on how to invest.

How many are now sat on the fence with the supply near running dry. Some of the supply is now those guys are sat on the fence, so if they want back in a month or two they best hope others here bail out and let them have some.

Pis buy on rises on re FOMO and sell on drops. It always has been and always will be that way.

I've no idea where the share price will go. I put the hours in to know what VRS say is true. In fact I cannot post some of the things I have found to show it to be true. So it's just down to whether they pull the deals off and I think they will. They are gov backed AIM company not some gutter POS.

Thanks for the honesty it helps work out what is going on.

[dgduncan] 17/2/2019 18:27

Contrary to the news about Gavin Williamson deploying the QE carrier to stand up to China - it is money that talks at the end of the day.

As per the SCMP today :
"Some have suggested that post-Brexit Britain could become “another Singapore” by modelling itself on successful island economies. But in reality Britain may be in process of becoming another Hong Kong. The key is that both Britain and its former colony are situated at either end of the Belt and Road project.
As Kent Calder, director of the Reischauer Centre for East Asian Studies at Johns Hopkins University in Washington observed perceptively to me in a conversation a couple of years ago, London and Hong Kong are likely to become financial and logistical “windows on the world” for China.
The term “window” is appropriate, because it has the connotation of a place with liberal supplies of credit. But in the case of London and Hong Kong, they are not just centres of credit but, to an increasing extent, renminbi windows also – key to China’s needs.
According to the Financial Times report (based on data from payments company Swift), some 36 per cent of all external renminbi transactions were conducted in Britain in December 2018, and according to the Bank of England, London trading volumes in renminbi reached an average of US$75 billion daily as from October last year.
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So I would say that VRS has a solid future with China.

[billwave] 17/2/2019 18:23

Riley4 - I recently sold due to the same concerns that are being raised by some others on here. I'm still interested and following because having had enough faith and belief in the story and the company to of been so heavily invested for almost 12 months I'm almost disappointed to not be financially involved. I had the same dreams as to where this could go as most of you still have. I suppose I'm watching and waiting for those questions to be answered in a manner that will give me the confidence to reinvest. Simple as that.

[superg1] 17/2/2019 18:12

Rid

As far as I can make out the entire underground network will be upgraded with the VRS/Aecom project, but then the product can be used worldwide in similar subways and Metros saving the relevant networks 100's of millions.

Not just about light weighting and strength making such things possible but the guard against brake dust and other corrosive factors could be relevant for graphene.

Aecom don't do small and as I have pointed out they had a website prepared and ready to go specifically for the VRS Aecom project.

At GEIC it was pointed out that we should watch out for news on the topic and not just from VRS.

I'm waiting for another public document to appear which may give details to work from. It won't be by Aecom or VRS but I search for it regularly.

[superg1] 17/2/2019 17:58

Of course many time I think you do it to encourage a strong response.

I know what I can see, I know what the numbers have been saying for months. Some things I can't say or I lose my sources. That is how an intel network works.

If you burn bridges you are on your own.

[billwave] 17/2/2019 17:57

Festario - Indeed. As asking questions to try and alleviate genuine concerns, or displaying anything other than positive signals on here is seen as talking your investment down, I though I'd best sell up first. I am still genuinely interested in the story and would certainly consider reinvesting if there is a series of events that could restore my faith. Regards and good luck to all.

[riley4] 17/2/2019 17:49

Then why are you getting involved. If it is a vrs supporters club, you have sold your shares so no longer support vrs so you should maybe just accept your choice and move on.

[festario] 17/2/2019 17:49

Yet another one telling me to move along, without attempting to look at any of the issues I've raised. I'd rather be ignored or filtered, rather than given unsolicited investment advice.

[billwave] 17/2/2019 17:47

Asking questions that are genuine concerns and the answers that are generated should indeed be productive, unfortunately on here if its a question that some do not want to hear or it can't be answered positively they display almost aggressive tendencies and tell you to go someplace else. That's counter productive.

[festario] 17/2/2019 17:47

Billwave, life is a funny thing, and I do wonder about the way the private Twitter group might degenerate if the share price continues to diminish? I'm an easy target until the share price reaches a level that even THEY are no longer comfortable with.Everyone, including me, and you, have a tolerance level.Yours was breached before mine and you took some action.Mine has been reached now and it's based on the rapidly declining level of value in my share account.I have chosen to take different action, which is to pose questions. But I do wonder if your way of doing things will prove to be better than mine?However, whatever we do, it attracts bad feeling. No idea why, no need for it, not whilst the filter facility exists.A few blue days this week and I'll feel better about things, especially if it's linked to some tangible progress.

[harrysol] 17/2/2019 17:47

As each day goes by, we move one day closer to the first big order. This is a forum for people to discuss VRS. If you don't like VRS or believe it to be a dud investment, then move along. The share price is being affected by some rather nervous Nellie's. I am happy with VRS. I was at Geic. The RNS of 4 February along with podcast were both very positive. The Chinese have verified nanene - it was in the RNS. This is a great investment opportunity. As the price falls, I top up. The faithful will be rewarded. I have nothing against those that don't think VRS is a good investment. I just say, move along.

[billwave] 17/2/2019 17:33

Come on fest, surely you have realised by now that even though the header suggests this is a VRS Share discussion thread it is in fact purely a VRS supporters club. Positive input only please, voicing any concerns or asking questions that can't easily be answered is met with hostility and replies of a very vindictive nature (with the exception of one or two that try and understand your genuine concerns}. Apparently you have to hold shares in the company too, now I've very recently sold mine I'm no longer welcome to have an interest or voice my concerns.

[festario] 17/2/2019 17:28

Meganxmas, your private messages to me today were kind and conciliatory. Yet you turn aggressive in the public forum. This says much about your integrity and state of mind. Showing off perhaps?I'll filter you now, and I filter very few people.Ellis, your last post to me sounded like a veiled threat. Something to do with something I've said being illegal?I'm really worried about the extent of the paranoia that a simple question on this open forum can create.

[meganxmas] 17/2/2019 17:08

You know what festario preserve your super wealth and move on. I am sure there are many here who have invested at many price points and some who will be sitting on losses. However I am sure many of them are in for the big picture and not the micro day to day that you are involved in. Over 300 pages worth of posts on this share. Over exposed and obsessed. This one was a classic ...Festario - 07 Jan 2018 - 11:31:16 - 28534 of 32668Gaming VC - GVCRBonnier , shorting scum idiot..... bitter person who missed out on the rise here, where the rest of us got very wealthy indeed.Go long man, there's still another 100% in it.

[magic beans] 17/2/2019 17:08

Festario, yes, please please sell tomorrow. I'm more than happy to take the hit and will take advantage of the price drop. Thanks, and good luck with your future investments.

[festario] 17/2/2019 16:57

Meganxmas thanks for reminding me, and yes, I just might!If I do you'll see the share price go to hell in a handcart, are you braced for that?What your post does help with is just how long we've been blaming Miton for this lousy sell off.SuperG has seen the figures, most of us haven't, but the excuse was wearing a bit thin even back then!

[meganxmas] 17/2/2019 16:52

Hallelujah does that mean you will sell and move on this week ???? Unbelievable amount of posting from you over last few months. Festario - 18 Dec 2018 - 16:50:37 - 53812 of 59850VRS The world lead in real Graphene (Nanene) - VRSNasty drop at the Bell there.I don't buy the Miton fund explanation, they were supposedly nearly done months ago.Instead, I believe that one or more PI's are getting out as we move below their level of comfort.My own comfort level is 110p to 120p. I'm happy there but no lower, I added quite a lot in the 150s.Under 110p and I'm motivated to go defensive and preserve what profit I can to live my life with.It would seem that some PI's are doing the same, but they had a lower tolerance level than me.