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[club sandwich] 12/2/2019 19:11

"a voice of reason amongst some real dross on here"That's no way to talk about the Dimwit Despot...

[woodpeckers] 12/2/2019 19:01

Ellis, you're a star! Reasoned, respectful, replicable???? Could certainly do with more like you!

[ellissj] 12/2/2019 18:40

Bless yer hattie :) and all ! :)) Me and mrs all in vrs in our sipps. Fully confident in neill and co. This despite investing at a time of world political and economic change with the associated turbulance that brings. Who can second guess trump for instance ? To my mind, The 4th industrial revolution is driving this change, as the resulting productivity gains and thus profits will be enormous, hence countries and the powerful are positioning themselves to gobble as much as they can up, to retain influence/position. against this scenario, investing in next gen tech that will enable this revolution is a good play. Which is why i settled on graphene. Finding the winners is the tricky bit - caveat emptor ! But I feel vrs offers the best opportunity in the 2D materials sector from what i can see. As my wife says 'things always take longer than you think.' Enjoy your evening. Aimo. Atb ellis.

[realcooltrader] 12/2/2019 18:31

Yep, thirded!

[tim3416] 12/2/2019 18:17

and from me...you're a top man Ellissj

[hattie1] 12/2/2019 18:10

Ellis I’ve thanked you before but wish to do so again a voice of reason amongst some real dross on here at times , the time and energy you put into your research is very much appreciated

[ellissj] 12/2/2019 18:10

And as tweeted yesterday by midas manchester. Graphene in rochdale ! Best ellis

MIDAS, Manchester @MIDAS_MCR

Replying to

@InvestRochdale
@Freudenberg and 2 others

"This strength was recognised by UK governement last year when it identified Rochdale as the destination in the UK to invest in lightweight materials. #graphene #lightweighting"

4:34 pm · 11 Feb 2019

[ellissj] 12/2/2019 18:01

Cheers all and Good luck. Sorry to see you leave myrl - atb. Neill tweeted today 'plenty coming' re EV's (in terms of general demand) Certainly this article is encouraging and chimes with that, saying demand already outstripping supply, albeit from low levels. Switch to ev's looks quicker then previously believed. Opportunities for lightweighting with 2D materials (per UoM) and next gen battery tech. Vrs look well positioned. Aimo. Best ellis.

'Electric, hybrid and low-emission cars.'

'Electric cars are already cheaper to own and run, says study. Petrol and diesel vehicles cost more over four years in UK and four other European nations'

Damian Carrington Environment editor

Tue 12 Feb 2019 11.25 ;GMT

Electric cars are already cheaper to own and run than petrol or diesel alternatives in five European countries analysed in new research.

The study examined the purchase, fuel and tax costs of Europe’s bestselling car, the VW golf, in its battery electric, hybrid, petrol and diesel versions. Over four years, the pure electric version was the cheapest in all places – UK, Germany, France, Netherlands and Norway – owing to a combination of lower taxes, fuel costs and subsidies on the purchase price.

Researchers from the International Council for Clean Transportation (ICCT) said their report showed that tax breaks are a key way to drive the rollout of electric vehicles and tackle climate change and air pollution.

Carbon emissions from transport are a big contributor to global warming, but have been rising in recent years in the European Union. Vehicles are also a source of much air pollution, which causes 500,000 early deaths a year in the EU.

Electric cars offer the biggest savings over diesel in Norway (27%) as the battery-powered vehicles are exempt from a heavy registration tax. The ICCT analysis was updated for the Guardian after recent cuts in the UK’s grants for electric car purchases. It shows British drivers see the smallest saving – 5%. In Germany, France and the Netherlands, the saving varied from 11% to 15%.

Sandra Wappelhorst, from the ICCT, said: “Most trips are within an electric vehicle’s range, and it is the battery electric vehicle that turns out to be the most cost effective over four years. But if you’re a country doctor, who might have to respond to emergency calls at odd hours in odd places, you’ll have to evaluate a battery electric car differently to a London surgeon.”

"Wappelhorst said financial incentives for electric cars would not be needed when purchase prices fall to that of fossil-fuel powered cars, which is likely between 2025 and 2030. “It will happen, because battery costs are dropping and that means that the initial price of the vehicles will drop as well,” she added.

Cost is not the only factor, Wappelhorst said. While electric car owners can also benefit from reduced parking and road toll charges, they need to be confident there are sufficient charging points. Regulation is also needed to push car manufacturers toward low-emission vehicles, she said.

The analysis showed plug-in hybrid vehicles were often the most expensive to run over four years, in part due to the higher purchase of vehicles that in effect have two engines.

James Tate, at the University of Leeds, and colleagues published a study in December 2017 looking at the costs of motoring in the UK, US and Japan. It focused on depreciation and fuel costs and also found electric cars were cheapest: electricity much is less expensive than petrol or diesel.

Tate said the UK government could do more to drive the growth of electric cars. “My view is that the UK should do much more to steer the market away from the most polluting and inefficient cars, ie SUVs/4x4 which are continuing to grow in sales,” he said. “These large, heavy vehicles burden us and the climate with unnecessary CO2 and air pollutants. A taxation policy that rises with fuel consumption rates, such as in the Netherlands and Norway is overdue.”

UK taxation does increase with emissions for company cars, but not for privately owned ones.

In 2018, the sales of new electric cars in the UK rose by 21%, reaching a market share of 6%. In contrast, diesel car sales plummeted by 30%, though this was still a 32% market share.

Tate said carmakers, still reeling from the diesel emissions scandal, were struggling to keep up. “Demand for electric vehicles is out-stripping supply. Manufacturers are scaling up production and developing new models, but have been caught out by the rapid change in the market.”

Steve Gooding, director of the RAC Foundation, said: “The UK government’s enthusiasm for electric cars is clear, but it must ensure its policies are clear and consistent so private and fleet buyers can make purchasing decisions that aren’t undermined by policy shifts further down the road.”

[festario] 12/2/2019 17:49

I wish it was 146p

[drattuts] 12/2/2019 17:48

Scottishfield - I don't see those on my SharePad L2. What I do see is a buy at 45,000 at 146p, timed at 16:41.

Edit - oops 116p!

[chumbo1] 12/2/2019 17:43

Also buys from earlier showing as sells. Plus ca change....

[scottishfield] 12/2/2019 17:36

Cheers ellissj. Ah, there's the 2 buy trades that were hidden, 25k @1553 & 30k @ 1607.

[haz101] 12/2/2019 17:17

With u 100% Ellis!

[rogerbridge] 12/2/2019 16:56

well said EllisJ, I agree!

[ellissj] 12/2/2019 16:28

Looks that way scottish. If you want to build a stake here, you can't buy a large wedge, because relatively speaking there isn't one, from the usual channels ie II's. Eg. Such as recently seen at directa plus dcta for instance. Therefore, through churn over a period you get a supply from whats left of the II's here, or larger pi's, and the rest from 'weak handed' pi's etc. We all want to win here, but churn is churn and the general mkt is the general market. As i suggested re general markets, xmas eve was the bottom of 'the great short' down from summer/oct highs. And oversold too, given january was best market rise for 30 years (dow at least). I see some trying to game it down again already. But, Some slower economic numbers will have concentrated minds to resolve usa/china trade dispute and brexit asap, thus if the 1st quarter of this year is a dead duck, it shall quack thereafter - hopefully well and good. Well placed firms like vrs with massive opportunities and great growth prospects can likely outgrow wobbles in anycase. Holding well and good here for future rewards. 2 1/2 years into my original 5-7 year play. Planning longer than that now, as this fantastic story grows. Aimo. Dyor. Best ellis

[ratpat999] 12/2/2019 16:24

Delayed buys from 15.40 made price go up

[festario] 12/2/2019 16:21

Strange though that after that 160k went through at 114p, I can sell up to 45k shares at 115p?

[festario] 12/2/2019 16:20

Only BUYS reduce the downward pressure, FFS.

[scottishfield] 12/2/2019 16:19

& 2 80k sells, that might relieve a bit of pressure?

[rogerbridge] 12/2/2019 16:15

yes mjones727, it should be far higher.

[rogerbridge] 12/2/2019 16:14

Yes looks a bit fishy scottishfield

[scottishfield] 12/2/2019 16:13

There are buys being hidden from us rogerbridge :)

[woodpeckers] 12/2/2019 16:13

Could finish blue at this rate, stranger things have happened...