Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[vrs1] 16/11/2018 07:47

Spid - you do not know anything at all. You spout out dribble. Not only are you deluded, I think you maybe hearing voices. This forum has put up with yours, logs and dianes posts for long enough. You just can't cope with any good news from VRS. Lucky orange just posted £40-50k per kg. I agree. That equates to £150 million. Your not even a share holder - your here for dubious reasons. Point made. Worst case scenario is VRS make £100 million. If they order more machines to cope with all the demand, then it maybe much more.

[luckyorange] 16/11/2018 07:45

Got to make a profit in business you know, no good selling at pound shop prices, Neill knows that other businesses know that and they also know buy cheap buy twice but buying twice costs you far more than the initial product purchase and wastes your time.

[diversification] 16/11/2018 07:43

Starting early and in force today, filtered!

[spid81] 16/11/2018 07:38

Hi Diversification, If someone is going to tag me into a post I will reply.

VRS1 claim of $150mil is laughable. who is going to pay $50 mil per T for graphene ?

I am surprised that he has 13 TU,

You complain about Loglorry's posts, At least he is backing it up with links to the information,

there is a massive difference between FLG selling for $750k per T, VS VRS1 claim of $50 mil.

[luckyorange] 16/11/2018 07:36

VRS charge much more than that spid, plenty of info about but you need to look in the right place.

[squire007] 16/11/2018 07:35

Ask the government you tool !! Lol

[diversification] 16/11/2018 07:32

Spid, you said you are only here to correct us about things concerning FGR? How bitter are you becoming!

[spid81] 16/11/2018 07:29

Wow VRS1 do you honestly think that 3tpa of Nanene is worth $150mil,

How deluded are you, you really shouldn't be posting statements like that it is dangerous, NR has recently stated that the only graphene prices you should quote are the figures that the company provides,

To date VRS hasn't quoted any prices for bulk supply of graphene, When this is the case you normally use similar companies prices, this can range from US$100-750k per T depending on properties of the Graphene,

[luckyorange] 16/11/2018 07:27

Probably only charged £40-50k / kg for the gnp's double that for the McLaren order, it will do though 🌞

[ellissj] 16/11/2018 07:21

Great research ppl. The detail in this latest vrs collab is a head turner; neill said in poddy this smashes the current production method for this part. Thus, 2D graphene is disruptive to the point that competitors in any sector sees it similtaneously as an opportunity/threat, depending upon whether they have access to it? Neill has said previously in poddys, that when collabs announced, vrs have had their competitors knocking on the door too ! Great position to be in ! Aimo. Best ellis

[chillpill] 16/11/2018 07:18

I've had a chance to listen to the podcast and think this is the start of a multi-million £ per year revenue stream.

Exciting stuff- almost...but not quite the first fully commercial deal.

Feels like VRS is getting close to moving to the next step of their evolution.

[grabster] 16/11/2018 06:51

This from a few years ago re Aim Aviation sites in UK


(with newer links in footnote)

".. China has the second-largest aviation market in the world and is expected to be the largest market globally within a decade.."

"AIM Altitude has been a manufacturer of complete aircraft interiors continuously since the 1940s. During this period AIM Altitude has led the market with the introduction of new materials, processes and technologies."

"The Waterbeach site specialises in the manufacture and repair of semi-finished products and components from fibre reinforced composites. We are experienced in manufacture of components from Carbon, Quartz, Aramid and Glass fibres, using Epoxy, Phenolic and Polyetherimide resins. Sandwich panels and components are created using aluminium, aramid paper or Polyetherimide tubular core or Polyurethane, Polyetherimide or Polyether Sulphone foam cores.

Our processes include vacuum bag, autoclave and press curing, preparation for decorative processes, the application of decorative paint coatings and the Chameleon® 3D Water Transfer printing process. Waterbeach has multi axis CNC machining centres for pattern manufacture and finished part machining.

Waterbeach performs testing, repair and manufacture of radomes for public transport aircraft. We have a licence from Saint Gobain (formerly Norton) for manufacture and repair to St Gobain STCs and for TC Holder Approved radomes. Waterbeach has one of the most capable, automated radome transmissions test facilities in the Europe and performs testing for third parties.

Waterbeach houses our independent Fire Property Test Laboratory, with capability for EASA and CFR14 Vertical, Horizontal, 45 degree Heat release Rate, Smoke Emission and Boeing/Airbus Smoke and Toxic Gas Emission tests. Since mid-2015 we have been able to provide Boeing approved fire property test witnessing using our Boeing Qualified Individuals for Test Witness Activity from our Bournemouth EASA Design Organisation.

Waterbeach is a stockist and distributor for aluminium honeycomb core, aramid paper honeycomb, fibre reinforced pre-pregs and film adhesives manufactured by Hexcel Corporation and Euro Composites."
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If there is not a Versarien connection with them, there sure ought to be!

[dafad] 16/11/2018 06:45

Seems Aimaviation has test facilities on the same buisness park as Versarien

The structural test service complements the extensive Fire, Smoke and Toxicity test house and automated test range for radar transmission testing of radomes, at AIM Composites. Located in Waterbeach, Cambridge, the AIM Composites test centre is the only full-service cabin fire properties test facility in the UK, listed in the FAA Materials Fire Test Handbook.

[grabster] 16/11/2018 06:38

Did NR address or attend a Dorset LEP event in Bournemouth? As part of a South-west Local Enterprise Partnerships thing.

[dafad] 16/11/2018 05:15

Mike - Was Neill in Bournemouth recently-seem ro think i read that he was,anyone able to confirm

[mikebrenner] 16/11/2018 05:01

DAFAD - great research and showing the wider opportunity is at tipping point

[mikebrenner] 16/11/2018 04:58

DAFAD - unlikely hTTps://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=42229282&from=48308#firstpost

[dafad] 16/11/2018 04:56

Now the Aimaltitude/Avic/Manchester Uni/Graphene connection

Enjoy!!

AVIC buys London-based aircraft cabin interior supplierUpdated: 2016-06-04 09:25By Cecily Liu(chinadaily.com.cn)

 



With AIM purchase aviation firm continues program of snapping up niche specialists

Chinese aviation firm AVIC International Holding Corp has completed the acquisition of AIM Altitude, a Britain-based aircraft cabin interior supplier, for an undisclosed amount, from the London based private equity firm TowerBrook.

AIM Altitude, based in Bournemouth in southern England, has three production bases in the United Kingdom and sales presences in the US, Hong Kong and Saudi Arabia, with more than 1,100 employees globally.

Xu Tongyu, vice-president of AVIC International, said AVIC will use its strength to help AIM Altitude expand its product range and grow geographic reach. This includes plans to supply galleys and other interior products to the new Airbus A330 completion center in Tianjin and the new B737 completion center in China.

Negotiations for the deal started a year ago, when AVIC International, in an attempt to strengthen its cabin interior and galley capability, found AIM Altitude, after looking through all potential acquisition targets in this niche sector globally, Xu said.

Mark Edwards, CEO of AIM Altitude, said he is looking forward to the start of a journey where his firm can leverage AVIC's global strength and wide existing customer relationships to expand internationally.

Liu Xiaoming, Chinese ambassador to the UK, added he hopes the deal would further improve AVIC's global competitiveness and broaden AIM Altitude's reach.

He highlighted the UK's long aviation industry history and underlined that China's is fast growing, despite being a newcomer.

Chris Rudd, a professor of mechanical engineering and pro-vice-chancellor at the University of Nottingham, said the acquisition will bring great benefits to both parties.

"The relationship means immediate access for AVIC to a whole generation of experienced design and fabrication engineers," he said.

AIM Altitude's experience on a much wider range of composite applications including aircraft fairings－structures which produce smooth outlines and reduce drag－would help boost AVIC's fast-growing composites division and complement the enormous investments that have been made in its fabrication facilities in Beijing.

"It will also bring welcome investment to AIM's UK operations as well create a secure platform for future business in China's lucrative domestic airline growth," Rudd said.

AVIC has steadily grown its presence globally through both acquisitions and research and development partnerships with Western universities.

The company, for instance, has a research collaboration with the University of Nottingham on composite materials, one with Imperial College London on materials and aircraft design, and another in place with the University of Manchester on graphene technology.

AVIC's overseas buying spree in recent years has seen the firm buy Continental Motors Inc, a US aircraft engine manufacturer, Thilert AG, a German aircraft piston engine manufacturer, Align Aerospace, a US manufacturer of aviation standard parts, and Aritex, a Spanish supplier of automatic aircraft assembly lines.

Howard Yu, a professor in strategic management and innovation at IMD Business School in Switzerland, said the latest acquisition highlights AVIC's strategy well of playing catch up with the world's top commercial aviation firms, through piecemeal acquisitions of small firms with niche specialties.

"The aviation industry is an oligopoly, currently dominated by a few big dominant Western players, which tend to be skeptical of working with Chinese partners through mergers, therefore there isn't an obvious target for AVIC to buy," said Yu.

"What AVIC needs to do is to acquire smaller niche firms and then stitch all the expertise together to give itself more broad set of expertise."

 

[dafad] 16/11/2018 04:07

Interesting Cambridge based co -

Aimaltitude new test faciities -

Look where the parent co are based and industries they are involved in -

The more I look into this co the more excited i get -


Could the global airline co be China airlines -

[eel tamer] 16/11/2018 01:08

HP is a lower, cheaper grade of VRS Graphene. If it were Nanene, they definitely would have said it. I've not seen it but apparently Neill confirmed it was HP to A Game. It's great either way but just making clear as a lot of people don't read and just assume.

[vrs1] 16/11/2018 01:08

Axotyl - yes, i meant to say,3 tonnes annually.

[magic beans] 16/11/2018 00:04

One last interesting bit of info.

According to the FAA there are 7000 kg (15,000 pounds) of combustible cabin materials in an average passenger aircraft. Aircraft operators estimate that each pound of weight on a commercial aircraft costs between $100 to $300 in operating expenses over the service life of the aircraft.

They are all listed here.

[axotyl] 15/11/2018 23:34

3 tonnes annually, surely?