Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[vrs1] 15/11/2018 23:02

Yes log. £150 million in revenue. You, spid and Diane must be terrified today. All those posts, all that time and all that effor, to no avail. I hope you go bankrupt. You have cost many small investers s great deal of money. VRS today, have delivered. In aviation, graphene is going to be incorporated into most parts to reduce weight and improve costings. VRS will have advantage here as first leader. VRS are going to be producing at minimum 12kg daily. This is 3 tonnes daily. Not to stock pile, but to sell. Neill always told us he is 6 months ahead. I can't wait. The next few orders will be for many more kg. The loyal VRS holders will be rewarded.

[tini5] 15/11/2018 23:00

Diversification, precisely. The little niggles of doubt - the boot’s on the other foot now.

Today is the very sharp thin edge of the commercialisation wedge.

[mjatkin82] 15/11/2018 22:48

Sticking with my trolley theory. They are up to 1000 dollars each, need to be super strong (handle must withstand 16Gs), up to 50 used per flight (presume a380 sized). Currently weigh 15-25kg made of aluminium. With nanene could they be stronger, more durable and importantly lighter? Let say 10kg per kart so up to half a tonne off the fuel cost and probably cheaper to manufacture? I’m probably barking up the wrong tree but I am imagining a scaled trolley with nanene compared to a scaled aluminium one sitting on Neill’s desk.

“If you take 454kg out of the weight of an engine that is worth 1 per cent of fuel. It is a big financial saving but also good for the environment,” says Ric Parker, former director of research and technology at Rolls-Royce

[bootie64] 15/11/2018 22:44

No, but a point raised in that podcast - when asked if this is being used for a commercial setting on one plane and then being rolled out was no "Major airline fleet wide" :o)

[mjatkin82] 15/11/2018 22:40

Do we have any idea what the aeroplane part is yet? Sorry if I missed it.

[bdog51] 15/11/2018 22:28

Know the enemy who wishes to steal your money!

Lesson 1: Remember, DERAMPERS NEVER DERAMP A BAD SHARE. Watch the board for shares with no potential. They never have any derampers. Derampers only go after shares that are going upwards or have excellent potential to go up. Derampers get left behind, so they want to bring the price down to be able to get in at a great price.

Lesson 2: DERAMPERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. New startup companies always have a few bits of bad news. The deramper will post this over and over again. The stupid deramper will try to make the old news a bit fresher to try to fool you.

Lesson 3: DERAMPERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY. They try to wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question. THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is no positive comment they won't deramp. They try to control the board. True longs may have to address the derampers or they will appear to the newbies as being the people with all the information.

Lesson 4: DERAMPERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust a deramper. The truth on startup companies is that many mistakes are made and losses happen. The deramper will try to make you believe all startup companies make a profit, release financials every quarter and all aspects of the business run smoothly. THIS IS NOT TRUE. THE DERAMPERS LIE TO YOU. Startup companies can go years without profits, financials and good business, this is the nature of the beast.

Lesson 5: The derampers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they make the statements they do.

Lesson 6: The derampers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about information and you couldn't know the difference (unless you have done your assessment of the company and know the truth and facts).

Lesson 7: Derampers play on your LACK OF PATIENCE. YOU have held a share for a while. You knew it will be a big share someday, but the DERAMPER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR GAIN. That's when the deramper is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the share was to hold it for one year. The deramper is bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day. Some others also dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to let everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a deramper as well. THE DERAMPER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW PARTNER, TOO.

Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the deramper's job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board every day. They are trying to hit the newbies visiting the board. They are trying to wear out the longs on the board. They do whatever it takes to wear the longs out.

Lesson 9: A deramper's job is to DISRUPT A BB THREAD where well researched and evidenced articles clearly demonstrate a strong commercial case to invest and unhelpful in support of the negative deramper posts.

Lesson 10: DERAMPERS WILL TRY TO CREATE DOUBT AND GET YOU TO RESEARCH ITEMS THAT THEY KNOW WILL LEAD TO THE CREATION OF DOUBT IN YOU AND IN OTHER SHAREHOLDERS. A typical trick of an advanced deramper is to propose that there is a potential "problem" because "we" don't have the facts on a particular subject.
DON'T GET INTO A CONVERSATION WITH THE DERAMPER REGARDING THE TOPIC. THAT IS WHERE YOU LOSE. DON'T CONVERSE WITH THE DERAMPER; ANSWER INDIRECTLY; DON'T USE THE DERAMPERS NAME; DON'T GET INTO A PERSONALITY CONTEST.

[diversification] 15/11/2018 22:23

First time I have seen the derampers panic for a while, great entertainment.

[loglorry1] 15/11/2018 22:13

@tini who is queueing up for Nanene? They've an order for 1kg of GNP..

You do know this so called "lower quality stuff" is selling at the hundreds of tonnes per year level right?

[loglorry1] 15/11/2018 22:08

@vrs Nanene really? $150m of revenue really?

Ok then.

[tini5] 15/11/2018 22:02

Tim and co must be raging that they can’t get a price for VRS graphene and just have to work on assumption that it’s the same price as the lower quality stuff that nobody is queueing up for.

Big ‘ol smile on my face right now. Karma train choo choo - it’s coming for you.

[mjatkin82] 15/11/2018 22:01

Nanene trolleys? Lightweight and house an alternative power source to power the galleys? hxxps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150611122716.htm

[axotyl] 15/11/2018 21:53

I did, and obviously missed it. FAA US-based lab. testing it, but didn't hear it was an American airline; an American aircraft, Boeing, maybe.

And I didn't hear it was Nanene, either, vrs1. I just read the RNS.
(hoping Log will offer me a job)

[bootie64] 15/11/2018 21:50

Axotyl,Listen to the podcast :)

[landereo] 15/11/2018 21:43

2 sides to every coin. Does it say hundreds of thousands of dollars per kilogram ?? Guess it depends if your buying a ferrari or a beaten up lada.

hxxps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-13/miracle-material-graphene-reinvented-as-pixie-dust

[axotyl] 15/11/2018 21:32

An American airline, Magic? Did I miss something?

[jointer13] 15/11/2018 21:31

magic beans

that's why I am sitting comfortably invested in a company that has a range of quality 2d materials.

[smallfry1] 15/11/2018 21:29

Thank you Bisho

[magic beans] 15/11/2018 21:22

Funny how an American Airline chose a British graphene company for their supply. Wonder why XG Sciences were overlooked? Maybe a failed trial (if the rumours are correct they've had a few)?

Makes you wonder.

And as for AECOM.....

[loglorry1] 15/11/2018 21:18

What has Versarien getting on with their jobs got to do with the valuation mismatch between Versarien and it's peers?

VRS is a perfectly good company at £30m market cap.

You can all pretend to yourselves that Nanene can sell at $25,000/kg if you like and clearly NR will allow you too but that just seems completely fanciful. I have provided links why.

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It is so satisfying to know that no matter what Loglorry and others like him write, those at Versarien just get on with their jobs and continue to deliver. How galling it must be for such detractors to witness a company having so much success, “precious̶1; time wasted whilst the company deliver on their promises

[pshevlin] 15/11/2018 21:12

Brexit will have NO EFFECT on this stock in the long term. There will not be a tariff on a commodity that NO-ONE else can produce.

[jointer13] 15/11/2018 21:10

phoenixs...exactly... versarien do it in the morally right way.

perhaps that's why they have such success.