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[spid81] 28/10/2018 20:44

Can anyone list the high end applications that VRS are intending to sell Nanene into?

[spid81] 28/10/2018 20:40

Good Morning Superg1,

Can you please substantiate this claim,

"I don’t know if Spid has warned folk that FGR had a fall put over renumeration and a guy was ousted in AGM voting on the topic."

As far as I am aware, no directors were voted out at last years AGM. Is this another lie from you SG1,


"I assume he has explained FGR paid $800,000"

as far as I am aware all of the companies paid the $800k to join the GEIC, Are you suggesting this is a bad investment ?

[vrs1] 28/10/2018 20:22

Well put diversification. At some point we will get the RNS' that we've been waiting for. Can you imagine the impact of China on the share price? Good help the shorters!

[billwave] 28/10/2018 20:21

@44085 Ref. Sale price per Kg and awkward questions. No, of course I'm not suggesting that the sell price of the product does not matter. The price of the product will have been discussed with the customer as part of every one of the 30 plus collaborations. What I suggested is that there is likely good reason why there is as yet not a blanket price per Kg quoted. As investors we are not privvy to the details of individual deals. Prices and indeed profits will be reflected in financial statements. Your questions are not at all awkward, indeed questions any investor should be asking themselves. The concern is that you appear to be blinkered or at best biased toward negativity, almost as if you had an agenda opposed to the prosperity of VRS.

[diversification] 28/10/2018 20:17

Movements in the share price are down to the ‘risk off’ environment, a few leveraged/inexperienced investors taking money off of the table during this global market correction. You only need to watch how the market makers are shifting the spread on low volume when the general market is falling to understand how much of this fall is artificial.

Looking at the market in general, many stocks have seen a correction of 30% plus, however, when general market sentiment shifts to the upside, it won’t take much for the tide to turn here.

Many of the negative posters have used this fall in the share price to underpin their argument. However, they have tried this before during bull runs yet it fell on deaf ears.

You don’t have an audience in a rising market, make the most of it while you can.

[vrs1] 28/10/2018 20:03

Yes dream catcher. Neill cannot tell us much more, but we know none of the collaborations has fallen apart. We also know that graphene works. We know from the quality of the collaborations that VRS could make millions. I'm sitting tight and I have topped up. I could be a millionaire very soon.

[dreamcatcher1] 28/10/2018 19:51

Neill Ricketts
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@neillricketts
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The quality of lying and deceit is very poor on the bulletin boards this weekend, very sub standard. I have enjoyed the weekend with the kids,did a lot of work on products and catching up. @gnanomat do indeed have a patent and it is filed. Why anyone takes these people seriously

[superg1] 28/10/2018 19:49

Ph Yes I don’t know if Spid has warned folk that FGR had a fall put over renumeration and a guy was ousted in AGM voting on the topic.

Now near 1 mill fpr 2 if them is fine for under £10k revenue it seems.

FGR and the Tier 1 point in Aus. I assume he has explained FGR paid $800,000 to get that status in Aus.

More to come just been busy.


And you wonder why way back I was warning people re FGR.

The original FGR crew were completely clueless re graphene yet made big claims they are a mining bunch.

[loglorry1] 28/10/2018 19:47

Well the CEO has now confirmed that log has been spreading lies and deceit here.
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No he's pointed out a small mistake in one of my posts. I've corrected that. If he can show other mistakes or what he calls lies I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong and correct them too.

I'd be worried why your CEO is reading Advfn and why he hasn't destroyed all my other arguments.

All he has to do is tell us why VRS trades at a £150m premium to it's peers. You'd think he could do that in a tweet or two wouldn't you?

[rogerbridge] 28/10/2018 19:43

I do not know what the plaonkers are spouting on about as they are filtered.
The vast amount of time and effort they are expending leads me to believe that some parties are vary scared of the VRS share price rocketing higher.

[superg1] 28/10/2018 19:43

Just to reiterate the point guys.

It’s quite simple

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (2) A representation is false if— (a) it is untrue or misleading, and (b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

As pointed out on a brief look it quite obvious intentional lies let alone “might be”

such laws are quite wide ranging.

Here’s another which probably doesn’t make sense to most but does to me, which in the fullness of time may feature.

A demand.
Made with menaces.
The menaces are unwarranted.
The menaces are made with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another.

There are others all of which may festure for a range of ‘folk’.

If you can’t do the time.....

A simple well known rule, no point moaning about it when you get caught.

[vrs1] 28/10/2018 19:40

Additionally my fellow VRS shareholders. If we are positive on this forum from this point on, then we can stop the damage being done to our wealth. We have the power to b restore the share price. They have skillfully taken the price down with the the spread of fear. Neill Ricketts has beg very clear that the fundamentals have not changed. I trust the guy. Let us destroy the shorters from this point on and watch the share price rise.

[bdog51] 28/10/2018 19:38

Well the CEO has now confirmed that log has been spreading lies and deceit here. Not that anyone doubted it. Has log really got nothing better to do with his time. He's not fooling anyone with his obvious agenda here.

[haz101] 28/10/2018 19:37

Fest I’m looking forward to open in the morning to get another small top up at these prices :)

[vrs1] 28/10/2018 19:35

I have always been motivated by Neill Ricketts. I take note of his tweet. Why would I trust spud or loglolly or ruinbow.

[vrs1] 28/10/2018 19:32

The shorters are desperate. Bankruptcy looms for the shorters. They need to spread fear. VRS is world leader. £2 within weeks. Shorters will be ruined. Beware, the shorters and doomsters can seriously affect your wealth.

[loglorry1] 28/10/2018 19:22

Nice to see Neill making sure everything I write is correct. It seems Gnanomat did file a patent but I don't see any granted. I did indeed write filed when I meant to write granted. I've edited my post to reflect this.

I note he doesn't point out anything else as incorrect. I'm more than happy to set the record straight if he can confirm details.

[melf] 28/10/2018 19:18

NR on Twitter this evening. I know who I believe:-)"The quality of lying and deceit is very poor on the bulletin boards this weekend, very sub standard. I have enjoyed the weekend with the kids,did a lot of work on products and catching up. @gnanomat do indeed have a patent and it is filed. Why anyone takes these people seriously"

[luckyorange] 28/10/2018 18:34

Sigh... the old IP problem , Canadian companies working in China and doing fine as are Germany , US and many others



"5. Manage your IP and it will be OK
Every firm should implement a strategy to protect their intellectual property rights in China, and that starts with registering IP: patents, trademarks and copyrights. China has modern regulations, but enforcement is still lacking. The good news is that for most firms, a successful IP strategy is possible, and there are many examples. It almost always includes registration. If you don’t register, chances are that a Chinese firm will do it for you in order to collect the government subsidy currently on offer. Once you patent your technology in China, it is easier and cheaper to seek redress, sometimes without even turning to the courts. Every strategy should also include practical, non-legal measures designed to avoid the courtroom altogether. For some, the strategy includes withholding core technology manufactured elsewhere, or physically separating manufacturing lines and employees. As Chinese companies battle one another over IP rights, domestic pressure for better enforcement is mounting. Canada’s Trade Commissioner Service offers some useful online tools for firms looking to protect their IPR in China.

“Leave the lawyers at home. They simply frustrate and slow down business negotiations in China without the expected benefit. This is a tough sell in big western board rooms whose directors are held accountable for ensuring that prudence and wisdom are followed in all transactions. But, western business norms just don’t work in China….prudence is best gain by using local accounting and legal people who are well seasoned in Chinese business practices.”

—Ron Ball, Managing Director, EHC Global

[loglorry1] 28/10/2018 18:27

Why is asking for a ballpark sale price of Nanene spreading fear and doubt?

[forestfred] 28/10/2018 18:25

Nellyb

That’s how some people seem to make their living by attempting to spread fear and doubt on message boards always negitive and boring , obviously we have not got one of those people ... on this board .
Ff

[loglorry1] 28/10/2018 18:24

@LuckyOrange I'm not talking about 25g for lab experiments. Since it's never been produced in volume I can't see how you can say it sells online.

So do you think $250/kg or $250k/mt is a paltry sum? What's your estimate?