Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[the_fiddler] 18/7/2018 06:50

NR has pretty much confirmed the idiot posting figures yesterday is speaking rubbish and those that jumped in on the FAKENEWS that was being spread will learn a lesson to read the forums to recognise that we all knew it was rubbish. If the share price falls today, take it as a lesson to RESEARCH.

[ellissj] 18/7/2018 06:39

Without s seller in play, maybe we would have seen a rise in the share price friday lunchtime; just as we saw falls in haydale and directa at that time ? Mondays news looks very encouraging for uk graphene industry, and i imagine vrs are sitting pretty regarding the new standards service/register. I wonder who can supply the unbreakable mobile phone screens, just one example cited by the attending minister ? Aimo. Glalth. Best ellis

[club sandwich] 18/7/2018 06:32

I sure hope they watch out for those pesky sailors fighting in the dancehalls. Look at those cavemen go!

[sonsonnyjim] 18/7/2018 06:21

There's no way they'd be that obvious. Matt is just having fun imo

[anotherdrink] 18/7/2018 05:50

So have we tied up with one (or several) of EM's companies? First NR buying a Tesla then on Twitter:
David Kerr@DFK007 7h7 hours ago
More David Kerr Retweeted Matt Walker
I have that one covered mate 😱David Kerr added,
Matt Walker

@MattWal79512221
Replying to @cynicalnarwhal @DFK007 @neillricketts
I think we might have an opening in our intergalactic division soon? We just need to find life on Mars and then we are ready to recruit 😎

[festario] 18/7/2018 00:51

Most PI's, me included, have our shares held in nominee accounts, like HL, TD, or Interactive Investor.They look like institutional holdings, but they are not.2% of VRS is held by me and my two friends!But... they show under nominee accounts.

[1teepee] 18/7/2018 00:06

Actually that says 9.89% general public ownership

[1teepee] 18/7/2018 00:04

I had a look at thishttps://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/simplywall.st/news/what-you-must-know-about-versarien-plcs-aimvrs-major-investors/amp/Is that wrong ?

[superg1] 17/7/2018 23:38

1 teepee

How did you come to that figure it's way off imo.

There are two funds known, Miton and Herald they cover less than 10%, how much less is for individuals to work out. NR has about 10%+.

[lovat scout] 17/7/2018 23:07

SG - agreed that most likely scenario is seller has finished or raised sell price.

1teepee - I think it’s higher than 30% but most accessible shareholder lists are very out of date so difficult to tell how much more.

[1teepee] 17/7/2018 22:54

I think only about 30% of vrs shares are pi's.

[loveder] 17/7/2018 22:28

This is why the government has got involved!?

[superg1] 17/7/2018 22:19

I don't think the rise has anything to do with shorts closing. Singer has been getting a supply for weeks.

One MM picked up 300k yesterday. Singer were on the offer yesterday and most of today. The 250k total buy appeared and took out the singer stock. Then we quickly saw that the other MMs had no stock either, so the share price went up.

Keep an eye on singer. I've been saying it since the last week of May. The supply will run dry at some point if not already.

[superg1] 17/7/2018 22:15

Lovat

I don't believe any shares are in loan in the normal way.

The way it's done on VRS is via the SB companies. Of someone goes long then the SB company can/will loan out your shares for someone going short.

The issue for shorts is that it is unreliable as if a big long closes out it can force them to close too.

I rang IG to check the scenario above.

[luckyorange] 17/7/2018 22:12

Any MP's on here ? ;)

[luckyorange] 17/7/2018 22:11

More Neill Ricketts Retweeted NPL
@MattWal79512221 one of yours ;)Neill Ricketts added,
NPL
Verified account

@NPL
"This service will provide the missing link between academia and industry and will revolutionise how #graphene is commercialised in years to come." @grahamstuart @UoMGraphene @HaydaleGraphene @inov_8 …
11:39 AM - 17 Jul 2018 from West Midlands, England





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Matt Walker
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@MattWal79512221
2h2 hours ago
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Replying to @neillricketts

Certainly is; and the Minister is amongst the landslide of pro-active voices who genuinely believes in graphene and ODI.

[spike_1] 17/7/2018 22:04

lovat - that would be a very good scenario if proven correct i.e. a genuine rise with no strings attached.

[scottishfield] 17/7/2018 22:03

Whatever it was, it's made the chart look very encouraging.....

[lovat scout] 17/7/2018 21:59

It’s possible seller recalled shares on loan to shorters who then had to close out hence share spike.

[turbocharge] 17/7/2018 21:57

New national service will accelerate UK’s graphene industry


This is probably where Neill was the other day,

Speaking at the event, Graham Stuart, Minister for Investment at the Department for International Trade, said: “As an international economic department, the Department for International Trade is promoting the very best of British expertise in advanced manufacturing. By making an unprecedented commitment to R&D, we will guarantee that British companies are at the forefront of manufacturing and design for years to come, creating global demand as well as British jobs and prosperity.”

Andrew Pollard, NPL Science Area Leader of the Surface Technology Group said: “Now we can take the next step. Introducing this unique service, alongside the development of international standards, to the UK’s emerging graphene economy will accelerate the commercialisation of next generation technologies here in the same country the material was first isolated, enabling graphene to go from the lab to the market”.

Apologies if already posted

[grabster] 17/7/2018 21:04

and the spread on this stock doesn't help them.. especially when spreadbetting firms add in their own percentage.

[lovat scout] 17/7/2018 20:59

Lucky - agreed but shorting for PIs is in general a riskier and an expensive game to fund these days, therefore time horizons are shorter. The grab a quick turn and run mentality is the only realistic game in town for shorting, hence the regular doom posting.

Hedge funds and IIs can be more sophisticated with shorts but they tend to stick to expensive maturer companies rather than high growth prospects. That’s not to say IIs won’t short high growth companies but simple DD would reveal the risk reward for shorting VRS is all wrong at the moment.

[grabster] 17/7/2018 20:57

Encouraging tweet from Matt Walker half hour ago, regarding government enthusiasm for graphene.