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[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 08:44

Where's the no10 hint Ellis? Might pick a few more up at the usual lunchtime lowpoint!

[andymoore07] 22/6/2018 08:43

VRS have been on national TV in China?!

[ellissj] 22/6/2018 08:42

Still radio silence i see. Neill hinting no 10 visit, then nothing. Very exciting i imagine ! Maybe monday we shall now ! Aimo glalth. Best ellis

[loveder] 22/6/2018 08:41

Hew. I looked at the Aston Martin video, was thinking of getting a couple for me and the strife but I don't do waiting and queuing ! Wonder if VRS are involved, now that would be good publicity !

[shavian] 22/6/2018 08:40

Clubbie, that puzzled me too. Maybe he's referring to something he did in a previous company?

[owenga] 22/6/2018 08:38

We seem to always d o the opposite of what you suggest rainbow! Keep spouting your garbage and we will be back up tov140p in no time! Thanks

[johnveals] 22/6/2018 08:37

Pick up a few pence if you like rainbow, we will have the pounds later.

[ellissj] 22/6/2018 08:31

That's a great idea superg, a creative fudge to work inside the rules, but keep all concerned interested. Winwin. Aimo. Best ellis

[ellissj] 22/6/2018 08:28

Sorry grabster, it was just a thought, i don't know how it would work in practice. But yes, that sounds a good idea, alongside tech. If 2D is a new industry, it will have it's own sector eventually you would think. But not before iso standards completed. Then investors can pick stocks with confidence. Aimo. Best ellis

[superg1] 22/6/2018 08:24

The web is great place.

[rainbow23] 22/6/2018 08:23

Another down day on the cards here today.

[superg1] 22/6/2018 08:23

So a China deal with one or a few provinces, and the Chinese having access to the AIM keeps everyone happy........... yes.

If I mention the way the Chinese invest to anyone, all I get is omg they are barmy. Then knowing they are graphene barmy, UOM lodes with Chinese students and VRS having been on national TV over there, I can so far only think of one conclusion.

[grabster] 22/6/2018 08:22

EllisJ - don't AIM use the same sector classification as the main index? In which case, not just an AIM sector labelled as 2D - or perhaps Nanotechnology as a subsector of Technology?

[ellissj] 22/6/2018 08:19

Indeed roger, i thought that was why stockmarkets existed. To capitalise firms/industries ! And this proposal should be considered, as innovation in markets is surely one of the reasons london is regarded as a major world index ? Atb ellis

[superg1] 22/6/2018 08:16

run

NR could have signed it months ago as he said but they wanted to go through it very carefully to ensure it's the best deal for investors and the business.

Besides that as also stated they see it as a business model to roll out into other countries worldwide, so that first deal sets a precedent for others.

You can imagine how the US may be p'd off if they were paying more for such a deal than China did.

This is a very large foundation stone for a roll out into various countries (again also stated by NR). So they will be very careful about that the deal involves and what they sign.

I'm sure plenty of other AIMs would have just signed what the Chinese offered instead of the non binding LOI and run off screaming £25 per share.

[rogerbridge] 22/6/2018 08:12

That is an excellent idea for the AIM Ellis.

On the China subject, It would be brilliant for VRS and UK plc, but I am not holding my breath at least in the near term. VRS have enough prospects to justify the share price even without China.
What could have complicated matters is that we were dealing with one province but that has possibly changed to six. More government involvements and red tape to untangle.
The results will be interesting, breaking even would be good enough for me. VRS is about looking forward, not the past.

[psxtalks2u] 22/6/2018 08:10

WFOE or WOFE......

[ellissj] 22/6/2018 08:02

If aim was to recognise 2D materials as a separate industry, it could have it's own sector. And attract investors to capitalise it. That's my thought. But yes, shanghai/london markets joint access would do shares like vrs well you would think. Aimo. Best ellis

[runthejoules] 22/6/2018 07:59

True, unless or until a big production RNS drops a large part of £VRS's valuation rests on the potential China deal itself - a chicken & egg situation! But also rests on valuing the tech vs other solutions which I'd imagine are also changing rapidly. So some rationale for stalling, some for signing on the dotted line. Neill doesn't seem one for hanging round for higher prices to carry out transactions though, ie fund raise at 19p, selling before good news.


Waiting for some money to come in for a potential top up if it drops again today.

[superg1] 22/6/2018 07:57

That's a major research angle for me and I need a find more dots to join.

The way I think of it, like everything else is that the AIM is a business and would want to expand.

Due to the China links, the graphene industrial revolution on the way, and China being graphene mad, then what better example is out there for a start point on that topic.

Then Shenzhen has been a topic too, obviously talking to them, obviously Silver Ventures too who are Shenzhen related. Then there is the Shenzhen stock exchange which I have yet to research.

[club sandwich] 22/6/2018 07:51

Mike - all true. But if there's been no progress on valuing VRS in three months (and on the scant evidence we have that seems to be the case) you do have to wonder how long it's going to take.Of course what we need is a big order to prove up the revenue model and get the sp/marcap up significantly: but I quite accept that's out of the company's hands.

[superg1] 22/6/2018 07:48

Shavian

On the recent topic and comments, I was trying to connect why NR and Matt would be having lunch with AIM heads. I've never known an AIM team do that before

So it's hard to ignore the fact that VRS have strong links with China good relationships with the AIM bosses, Matt on board and the news around the China London stock exchange link up due later this year.

I can only wonder would happen if the Chinese had access to invest in VRS. They are graphene investment mad in China and to have access to VRS with it's status and links into the Universities and government, then it could go completely barmy on here.

[spike_1] 22/6/2018 07:46

With '5 or 6' regions wanting +nanene, the only reason a deal will not be done is to protect VRS, so it's not 'falling through' as such, and in any case their is absolutely NO indication that will happen, quite the reverse:

Neill (twitter): 'much better to have government support from both sides, local investment and local management'

That tells us that both the Chinese and UK Governments want it to happen, and that it WILL involve Chinese investment, and Chinese plant staff. In other words, what they are working on is clearly mapped out and reflects exactly the LOI (Letter of Intent), i.e. they are not asking for something that hasn't already been done in China.

Yes it would be nice to have the deal sooner than later, but it very much looks like it will involve multiple regions (although not necessarily notified at the same time)

I'm relaxed, there is plenty of other news to come ;0)

Best wishes - Mike

[hew] 22/6/2018 07:45

Shavian, thanks for taking a look at the AM creation anyway. Perhaps the only one! Maybe I was not clear enough about what very speculatively I hope might be the case, but any who thought it was simply about an amazing car missed the whole point. I have no basis for saying anymore about it though.