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[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 20:57

He does seem in celebratory mood Zagro..

[zagrosfold] 22/6/2018 20:54

Being a big disco fan myself I can only think D. Kerr has something to dance about with his tweeting of a Chic classic.

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 20:48

Any evidence crack? As long as they sign with graphinks....

[1crackupboom] 22/6/2018 20:43

David and Matt in China? With the fountain pen?

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 20:35

Mike, very kind offer and I may take you up on it, however I'm from the shire across the pond so not sure how feasible it may be! Would be great to meet the team and consolidate my confidence in the company. Re. No nanene deals, surely that can't he far away, and NR did state news to coke on graphinks!

[hattie1] 22/6/2018 20:34

...David Kerr tweeting its been a busy busy week ... all bodes well ....

[club sandwich] 22/6/2018 20:20

roger

"With the launch of Graphinks,due shortly, there should be some good orders in the pipeline"

graphinks launched on 8th June. Keep up ;-)



Or do you mean the first inks order?

[spike_1] 22/6/2018 20:11

OT Hi Sonny, re shorters: the problem we have is now significantly less because most on this Board are 'old hands' and not easily persuaded by snake oil salesmen. And this really does need to be the case given the enormous % rises that seem to occur surprisingly frequently.

With any other share, and a bunch of newbee's they would be easy prey. And to be honest, given the fact that we have yet to make a profit, and have actually not a single nanene product out there, it is - theoretically - easy meat for shorters to look at the price and say - yup- there's a killing to be made here.

Our ACE is Neill on Twitter (many inc' me thought he should not respond, cus' it was wasting time and energy) but that man is so incredibly smart, he really understands (as indeed almost all of us now do) that there is far more to be gained by engaging with shorters than not. There have been a number of attempts to spread the rumour that a placing is due, and equally attempts to show Neill's share sales as very negative.

SO FAR - EVERYTHING has failed. The man has total credibility, especially with those who have met him.

If you are able to - you just MUST go to an Investors Day. If you live anywhere from London and to the west, I'm happy to give you a lift to get to Cheltenham, to meet the investors, Neill and the team, and if you want to hang around, introduce you to superg1 (probably at the Somerset Arms in Cheltenham where there is a cupboard of secret VRS'ers who have yet to 'come out' ;0)

Best wishes - Mike

[curtain twitcher] 22/6/2018 20:03

Innovate UK

IP is a significant contributor to the Government’s Industrial Strategy

Posted on 21/06/2018

Intellectual property will be critical to delivering the Government’s Industrial Strategy goal relating to research and development.
Intellectual property will be critical to delivering the Government’s Industrial Strategy goal of investing 2.4% of GDP in research and development, according to Universities, Science, Research and Innovation Minister Sam Gyimah.

Gyimah made the remarks at the annual World IP Day event held by the Intellectual Property Awareness Network (IPAN) at the House of Commons on 26th April which attracted over 100 key individuals, all involved in some way with IP and its economic importance, from across parliament, business and industry, the legal professions and academia.

The theme of the event was “Global Britain: Great for IP, Great for Business” – and post-Brexit Britain was very much of the minds of both delegates and delegates, including IPAN Chairman John Ogier, Intellectual Property Office CEO Tim Moss, Allie Rennison of the Institute of Directors and Knowledge Transfer Network CEO Chris Warkup.

“Overall, the UK has an awful lot going for it,” said Warkup, “for a place in which to innovate, to register, to fund, to grow a business – and IP, in the broadest sense, is important in the mix of that. Not just patents, but given our strong creative industries, also copyright, design rights, and trademarks. It’s very important to raising finance for innovative businesses.”

“Let’s remember, the UK has a great IP system – and post-Brexit, the UK will still have a great IP system,” said Moss – who noted that the IPO was working closely with Government to maximise benefit for business and minimise disruption during the transition period: “As we prepare to leave the EU, our role is to make the most of any opportunities that arise for UK trade and investment.”

“We are a nation which backs ambition and embraces innovation,” said Gyimah, “so we have every reason to back IP. We all have our eyes on the future, and I’m excited to see the role that British IP can play in shaping the world.”

Find out more from the day’s speakers in their event report, or watch the video below.

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Funding

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Funding details Registration opens 12 Jul 2018, 00:00

Registration closes 12 Sep 2018, 12:00

Closes 12 Sep 2018, 12:00

Award up to £20 million

Organisation Innovate UK, as part of UK Research and Innovation
Summary

Innovate UK, as part of UK Research and Innovation, will invest up to £20 million in the best cutting-edge or disruptive ideas or concepts with a view to commercialisation.

All proposals must be business focused (rather than pure research). Applications can come from any area of technology, science or engineering, including arts, design, media or creative industries, and be applied to any part of the economy.

Proposals can fit into, or be outside of, one or more of the Industrial Strategy Challenge Fund areas.



Proposals must demonstrate:

a clear game-changing and/or disruptive innovative idea leading to new products, processes or services
ideas that are significantly ahead of others in the field, set for rapid commercialisation
a strong and deliverable business plan that addresses (and documents) market potential and needs
a team, business arrangement or working structure with the necessary skills and experience to run and complete the project successfully and on time
awareness of all the main risks the project will face (including contractor or equipment failure, recruitment delays and so on) with realistic management, mitigation and impact minimisation plans for each
sound, practical financial plans and timelines
good value for money, which will always be a consideration in Innovate UK funding decisions
a clear, evidence based plan to deliver significant economic impact, return on investment (ROI) and growth through commercialisation, as soon as possible after project completion

Related interests:

Commercialising Graphene and other 2D Materials

[spike_1] 22/6/2018 19:57

Hover LOL! and LOL again, started my week-end with a very big smile ;0)

[rogerbridge] 22/6/2018 19:56

With the launch of Graphinks,due shortly, there should be some good orders in the pipeline.

[hoverflyman] 22/6/2018 19:51

Volatile? The ups and downs of VRS share price has nothing on weather in the Irish Sea and further north. During a recent 4 week cruise in my old boat, narrowly avoiding the worst of Storm Hector and a Force 8 Gale off Holyhead I found an occasional VRS catchup very soothing... and her prospects appear to have no ceiling.

I had various long suffering crew all of whom I regaled with many salty tales of +Nanene and Graphink. I pointed them in the direction of this thread so you may find a few novices appearing here; for them to avoid lengthy interview can I offer them a passcode, perhaps the answer to “what transforms a club sandwich?” ... peer pressure?

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 19:46

Mike, I can confirm that is my trade. My second of two now. I'm not sure what I can do about the time of someone else joining tbh. Hopefully my posts have made my stance clear! Re. Back history - everyone starts somewhere.

I understand wanting to make sure there is no one on the board with an insidious agenda, and I can assure you that with both my own funds and a loan in VRS, I am not such a person. I have been open re. My holdings and hope this satisfies you, if not I'm happy to answer any further questions.

Additionally, I truly appreciate the amount of information provided on this board.

[spike_1] 22/6/2018 19:38

Sonny since you asked, I'm working on it.

What puzzles me is you would arrive at exactly the same time as a couple of other shorters i.e. no back history at all and joined late the previous evening, and within the space of 12 hours today have made 37 posts (on several companies).

Since you explained you had held VRS for 'about a month' I find it difficult to believe given your sudden prolificacy, that you have taken this long to engage.

However there was a trade this morning just before you posted that you had bought some shortly before 12:29 @ 13.9, and in answer to my question said 2,200. Whilst there wasn't an equivalent trade on ADVFN LSE feed, on EX there was 2,216 @ 13.99 at 12:37.

So, as they say: you have almost ceased to be a 'person of interest'.

Have a good week-end - Mike

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 19:38

Hopefully we are getting a product ready with vivo!

[pcjoe] 22/6/2018 19:23

Nice to see vivo adverts featuring around Serbia & Swiss game tonite on display hoardings - with Macdonalds! - name popping up all over Russian World Cup - ain’t seen any mention of innov8....

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 18:56

Mike - just this and eqtec who (seemingly) are due a good finance rns. I'm at a stage where I need to grow wealth so taking big risk. Hoping to escape the slavery of (more than) full time work, before investing in some more stable securities. Ps, believe im not a shorter yet?

[luckyorange] 22/6/2018 18:54

Response to an earlier discussion.

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Bailey McCann, Opalesque New York:

The alternative investment market in China is maturing and delegates at the recent Opalesque Shanghai Roundtable expect to see continued growth despite concerns around valuations. The Chinese government has also been aggressive with new regulations designed to improve risk management, which delegates say should improve the marketplace.

"The Central Government is very concerned about the growing shadow banking industry and overall leverage in the financial system," said Paul Heffner, Co-Founder, Adamas Asset Management. "There are also new rules are define qualified investors to have at least 5 million RMB in financial assets or have earned more than 400,000 RMB a year for three consecutive years. These are the steps and measures in place to protect, which I think actually are very good."

In addition to these rules, the government has also made it harder for Chinese property investors to trade or speculate in real estate. The government wants individuals to live in their properties. Heffner expects that this will actually shift more investor dollars into equities strategies.

Perhaps counterintuitively, Keith Wu, Managing Director and Head of Equity Investment, China Everbright is already more constructive on Chinese banks because of regulation. "We see value in Chinese banking stocks," he says. "The reason why we are positive about them is that we think that the government authorities are managing the systematic risks very well. They are extremely cautious about potential risks and this actually prevents those potential risks from happening."

Will VRS qualify for the chinese AIM market?

[spike_1] 22/6/2018 18:48

sonny for you to say this isn't 'that volatile' suggests your other holdings presumably are, care to tell us what else you are 'in too'

(me: I have HDD, OPTI, SBTX, and a tiny slice of Nano, and until recently also held ITM and Cyan).

We very rarely ask this as it's none of our business - just so you know.

Best wishes - Mike

[festario] 22/6/2018 18:36

There isn't a large seller. Has no one noticed the tiny volume today?

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 18:20

Thanks hew, I've looked into most of that or wouldbt have commited to the company for the majority of my portfolio. I am new to this and am learning that temporary price fluctuations down (or up) mean very little over the long term. Honestly VRS isn't THAT volatile and has string foundations, don't know why anyone would be shorting. Also don't understand why there seems to be a large seller

[hew] 22/6/2018 17:57

sonjim, as I replied earlier with a few things to read to pick up the story here, a couple more significant ones. Read up on the two very small share sales Neill has made: just when, and for what purposes - see the RNSs, then the comments here. Equally important is the way Neill has responded tirelessly on Twitter to Tim Kempster and his ilk. Straightforwardly, factually and pleasantly, however malicious and misleading the shorters questioning and comments. Plenty of other illuminating tweets by Neill too, demonstrating his support for PIs, large and small, from way back.
And of course, you will have gone through the several VRS websites. Could be a busy weekend! You did ask!

But I'm not giving investment advice. DYOR.

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 17:49

Cheers everyone. Taken a few risks to get even the holding I have. No intention of trading for a long while

[johnveals] 22/6/2018 17:29

One other thought for you sonsonnyjim, it is said that 90% of day traders lose 90% of their money in the first 90 days. A small minority feed off the majority.

[ellissj] 22/6/2018 17:26

Found this article detailing one of the days discussions at the uk-india week. Launch of 'move india.' This is All about ev transport and car sharing. Govt minister says india have ambitions to become biggest ev producer, have large scale manufacturing desires. Tata rep says uk-indian collaboration could help address low carbon transport needs. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.oneindia.com/amphtml/international/uk-india-week-2018-live-2nd-day-of-leadership-conclave-2719948.htmlAnd just launched, an initiative to provide support and access to the best uk-indian startups. https://www.indiatoday.in/pti-feed/story/ficci-launches-initiatives-to-promote-india-uk-trade-and-investment-1267493-2018-06-22Good opportunities ahead for uk firms as these articles suggest a deepening trade relationship. Dyor. Have a good weekend. Best ellis