Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[johnveals] 22/6/2018 17:20

It is pretty pointless bemoaning not selling to buy back lower after the event. If we knew what the future held just think how boring life would be. Make your decision and live with the consequences.

[johnveals] 22/6/2018 17:15

sonsonnyjim - baring a black swan event the only reasonable answer to your question is that it should be considerably higher than today.
Some try to scare holders into selling in an attempt to drive down the price, possibly in support of a short, they are deluded. The long term potential for VRS is massive. Note I have not said that any of this will definitely happen but I have the majority of my speculative portfolio in VRS. DYOR

[runthejoules] 22/6/2018 16:58

Thought about buying some more this lunchtime, but luckily I didn't have any money. :-)

Didn't think it would go this low; but then I never do, thick bustard!

I was concerned it was the UoM selling out given they're now competitors, but if it's graphene oxide, they're not really.

Also just been at a talk where the minister for digital and culture said unis with large holdings in a startup actually put large investors off, so if they're out this could attract larger funds.

It is a pain that it seems Arden have not been able to effect a transfer as I'd hope they might do.

We are in that Biffin bridge of death between startup and confirmed growing profits though. So no wonder traders have gone with the trend and banked. Wish I'd had sense to but only cos I want to buy back cheaper! Congrats to those with more balls than me but I can't let any go!

[forestfred] 22/6/2018 16:45

Rainbow really !!
Do you Hold Vrs
I doubt it , if you did you would be post such an researched opinion Ff

[loveder] 22/6/2018 16:44

Must say you've got some balls if you're short rainbow!!

[rainbow23] 22/6/2018 16:39

Just as I predicted yesterday the dive south continues today. Roll on Monday for more of the same. The wise are fleeing this jam tomorrow hyped up share. Heed the rampers at your peril.

[luckyorange] 22/6/2018 16:33

That is my hope lovat, if you remember NR stated that money was queuing up to invest in a Hong Kong base. Wonder what their strategy is now?

[lovat scout] 22/6/2018 16:21

lucky - if the initial China announcement is the rough template for licensing around the world (VRS contribute IP, specialist staff etc. and local partner funds infrastructure set up and distribution) it may be possible that VRS can grow organically without raising too much new equity.

[luckyorange] 22/6/2018 16:19

Not faith sonson, hate that kind of statement but nothing personal. If I was invested on faith the amount I have in here would be substantially less and a punt!

I invested in graphene and the possibilities with VRS, Neill has delivered time after time, has high level contacts worldwide, sticks to his guns and beliefs with a no b/s attitude and is just what AIM needs.

Confidence describes my investment here.

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 16:07

Have to say it's great to see genuine faith and not mindless ramping.

[luckyorange] 22/6/2018 16:07

Soon all be in PI hands Neill and Will have no inclination to sell, Katy obviously sold some and buyers taken a breather until bloody Trump stops his hedonistic and self aggrandizement statements. Even he , as powerful as he may think he is , can be taken down by something that may seem simple, this time his wife showed him the way!

A little humility would do a lot of good but he doesn't know the meaning of that, anyway it will pass and the buyers will resume.

Sonson, I don't know where I see it now, thought I had some idea before the Matt Walker appointment, tyres would be big, China bigger and I thought it would get to £2.50 with either of those on board.

Have lots of questions that I feel sure will be answered in time, no fundraise needed at this time is an unexpected bonus so suspect that they have finance planned somewhere?

[adejuk] 22/6/2018 15:58

i have a lorra faith in nr - £200k's worth
but then so did the romans in pontious
go figure

[lovat scout] 22/6/2018 15:52

sonnyjim - the value is 100% the view of each shareholder - there are no pe ratio etc debates to be had at this stage so impossible to even give a range based in any financial facts as it all depends on the pace at which the company develops.

Potential is what VRS has in spades with new products and distributors and multi-national manufacturers queuing up at the door. The speed at which these relationships transform into success is largely at the discretion of the customers rather than VRS.

If you look at PRSM that will show you the value markets are putting on a differentiated business that has yet to make a profit but is lining up all the ducks so that when it does pass through the j curve it should make hay (£1bn+ I am not a shareholder)

It is not impossible to see VRS in a similar situation if things go right but AIMO DYOR etc....

[woodpeckers] 22/6/2018 15:50

pshevlin, that is IF they have any left....

[hew] 22/6/2018 15:49

sonjim, there are many better qualified to respond, but I will chip in with that LTHs see it where Neill sees it. That is not an empty answer. To appreciate it you have to put the work in. Follow the history for even the last 12 months - many go back lot further, led by SG. Lot and lots of background here, and the associated threads, study all the RNS. Search for all references to Neill on the thread, read the Shareholder Meeting reports here, and reports on Neills VOX chats. And go through all by SG here at least. Some other excellent posters and researchers too.

That's a start for you. Then you will understand.
NAI

[pshevlin] 22/6/2018 15:47

Whoever the seller is they have little compunction in driving the share price down even on a day when the whole market is racing away. Unfortunately we need them to be matched by buyers at the very least. The other problem is that they will sell into any good news and put a lid on the price.

[laginaneil] 22/6/2018 15:43

Info: trade at 15:04 is a buy!

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 15:42

Just a bit of speculation shamster

[shammytime] 22/6/2018 15:40

Excellent the way one knows how ridiculous the question is, but asks it anyway

[sonsonnyjim] 22/6/2018 15:31

Ade /orange/ any long term holders - where do you see this in say 2 years in terms of marketisation and share price Ridiculous question I know, and not trying to ramp. Genuinely curious on your thoughts

[runthejoules] 22/6/2018 15:29

Just really wanna know who the seller is before I buy again. Feel ruddy stupid myself adejuk!

[luckyorange] 22/6/2018 15:28

I did wonder from time to time ade ;)

[adejuk] 22/6/2018 15:18

i post from a position of stupidity, ignorance and naivety, like most i suspect.
in spite of myself i have a huge holding here and have a reserved respect for nr and his team
follow the mortgage

[johnveals] 22/6/2018 14:30

I would like to thank those who post here from positions of intelligence, knowledge and experience. For me it is the narrative, science and technology that adds up to an amazing potential but it is reassuring to know that you are all invested here.