Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Thomas Cook Group Plc LSE:TCG London Ordinary Share GB00B1VYCH82 ORD EUR0.01
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 3.451 3.539 3.595 0.00 0.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Travel & Leisure 9,584.0 -53.0 -10.6 - 50

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23/1/2020
20:08
I'm short with Interactive Brokers and they still haven't written them down to zero, they are marked at 3.451p.
spittingbarrel
23/1/2020
14:27
This is useful :- Neg Value Agreements with Govn
chinese investor
23/1/2020
14:09
Yep .. thanks Jaknife.
mallorca 9
23/1/2020
12:58
mallorca 9, You can't close it but you can utilise the profit for other transactions as it's there in your total "equity". IG are being super cautious (they always are) and won't close it at zero until the stock is removed from CREST. JakNife
jaknife
23/1/2020
12:54
That's interesting … I still haven't been able to close out my short with IG as they still haven't had formal confirmation from the Administrator that it is definitely not coming back. They have released all the margin and the share price is showing as 0.0001p, however I cannot close it and take the profit until they have that confirmation and the TCG epic is cancelled. Seem's to be going on forever. Can't say that I'm very impressed with IG on that one.
mallorca 9
18/1/2020
13:47
Thomas Cook airlines to fly again as an online airline, as quoted in the Times????
1224saj
18/1/2020
12:01
Cant make my mind up about that one Jacknife. I like the recovery plan but also feel that they will have to restructure the balance sheet at some point to tackle the debt. Trainline is a huge short Card Factory will go bust within 2years Superdry a failing brand with zero profit this year. On the long side … Inland Homes INL is one of my favourites and set to double.
mallorca 9
17/1/2020
16:20
As well as Trainline TRN …. two more excellent shorts …. Card Factory .. CARD Superdry …. SDRY I'm short all three.
mallorca 9
17/12/2019
08:54
Passes the time though winding those muppets up.
mallorca 9
14/12/2019
10:54
Probably best to stay here mate - always challenging going onto these boards with a bearish view - you won't change bulls minds.
nigelpm
12/12/2019
09:14
Cheers Nigel, can't claim all the benefit for that one - it caught my eye after Robbie Burns shorted it. £2 billion valuation - totally ridiculous. I am going to build a substantial short position there as it drops each 15% , adding trailing stops to the previous addition - hope that makes sense (was my strategy on TCG). Anyone care to join me on the TRN board ? Pretty lonely over there - think I'm first in there to short.
mallorca 9
11/12/2019
22:59
Great spot Mallorca. You are looking at negative equity of £83m once you strip out Goodwill. I hereby declare this board the short ideas board!
nigelpm
11/12/2019
17:21
Jaknife, £2billion + valuation for an App. Currently losing money and with £42m debt. Competition sure to enter this area too. All the original IPO stakeholders have already sold out. Robbie Burns also short TRN. Hard to value it at £200m - never mind £2 billion. I intend to load up heavy in steps as it falls during 2020 - as per strategy with TGC. Big money to be made here if done patiently …. over 2 years.
mallorca 9
11/12/2019
10:48
Thanks mallorca 9, I'll take a peek.
jaknife
11/12/2019
09:48
Anyone looking for a great 2020 short … see Trainline TRN. I have posted there.
mallorca 9
11/12/2019
09:08
I have just shorted Trainline … TRN at £4.27. Target price £1.
mallorca 9
02/12/2019
23:46
do you think that CMC Markets broke the law by paying out at zero? That's a serious question. No. Funnily enough I spoke to them about it recently - all their TCX positions were hedged with a prime broker whom was willing to close at 0. I think it was a surprise to them and I congratulated them on beating IG to the punch. As I may well have said before CMC are head and shoulders above IG for retail - sadly most retail don't use them though.
nigelpm
25/11/2019
21:42
thanks, JakNife. I hadn't read things properly. IG have NOT increased required margin to 100% at any point, so the experience versus CMC is not so inferior. Us shorts are able to withdraw nearly all the winnings (99.9%). I'd mistakenly thought that they had priced at 0.001p but were retaining the margin on the full suspension price. Still, it took too long and CMC was a better experience. Asagi (short TCG)
asagi
25/11/2019
13:57
Asagi, CMC have a different policy to IG, simples. "CMC paid out at zero weeks ago. If CMC closed longs out at zero also, by your logic, those longs would have a case against CMC." Yes, I agree, in the theoretical scenario where TCG returns cash to shareholders (despite the fact that debt is getting 2p in the pound) then TCG longs at CMC will be able to chase CMC for that cash and likewise, CMC will be able to chase shorts. It probably says so in their terms and conditions. IG have decided to mark positions at 0.001p, the minimum that they can mark them at that isn't zero, until there is a formal legal piece of paper that confirms zero. Hence IG are managing their risk differently. How much is this costing you? Can I pay that amount to you now to stop you going bankrupt? JakNife
jaknife
25/11/2019
13:26
then IG's systems are giving a sub optimal outcome for clients. That's their business call but given that they are retaining client funds when their "independent advice" tells them it is a zero I am not ruling out the possibility that they are acting in breach of rules. CMC paid out at zero weeks ago. If CMC closed longs out at zero also, by your logic, those longs would have a case against CMC. Asagi (long TCG)
asagi
25/11/2019
13:08
Asagi, No. It's not a matter of whether they broker the law or not. It's simply a matter of how they manage their customers and how they protect their credit risk on their customers. IG would mark it at zero if their systems permitted them. JakNife
jaknife
25/11/2019
11:47
do you think that CMC Markets broke the law by paying out at zero? That's a serious question. Asagi (short TCG)
asagi
25/11/2019
11:37
Asagi, It's basically zero, it's the lowest price that they can put it at without it being zero. They will let it go to zero when there is a legal piece of paper that says that it actually is a zero. If you think that you can find such a formal piece of paper now then produce it. But you won't. I had exactly the same with Debenhams but it was eventually marked at zero. JakNife
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