Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Thomas Cook LSE:TCG London Ordinary Share GB00B1VYCH82 ORD EUR0.01
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.38p +0.82% 46.62p 46.56p 46.66p 48.30p 45.46p 45.82p 5,459,327 15:16:39
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Travel & Leisure 9,007.0 46.0 0.8 58.3 681.92

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
15/10/2018
15:23
This is helping us today "Monarch's engineering arm has revealed it is nearing an agreement to secure a "significant funding commitment" from Greybull Capital."
xc1
15/10/2018
12:11
Considering the 250ftse index is down 3% and TCG is up 1% as i write. Were not doing bad today....thus far anyway.K
kumala
15/10/2018
10:46
Xc1:::I dont think we will crash out. A brexit deal will done imho.The country has to much to loose if a deal is not reached, there is to much scarmongering going on and maybe rightly so, who knows.Aimho of course.K
kumala
15/10/2018
10:05
brexit deal on the way and then could jump to 60p in a flash.
blueteam
15/10/2018
09:51
Hi KYup I agree the large holders will have a better grasp than us. I've done a lot of research on TC over the last few weeks and from what I've read, I'm happy with what the company is doing with the impending changes and changes that have already been implemented.My negative is Frankie. Briefly, he's acting too quickly on issues that never needed a above and beyond action. But I understand why.
xc1
15/10/2018
08:20
Im sure the major investors like invesco n fosun and the like know more than us minows and would not be 1. Still invested 2. Investing more if they were not just a little confident the share price would recover.....And if things were that bad....as you say... be looking to eject certain BOD members including MR F.Still feeling optimistic a recovery in share price will happen.......CheersK
kumala
14/10/2018
22:01
Evening y'allSome weather over the weekend, but then it's just the norm here tbh, apart from the rain is getting colder.Had a look on lse for the first time in weeks.Oh dear, it's full of codgers waiting, not for a bus - yellow one maybe - but waiting for the grim reaper.Anyway, I digress, a post this evening on lse has some good points. Frankhauser has done what, exactly. Which makes me think, the large major shareholders could put pressure on him to step down. Why are they not, as they watch their share decimated and still burning, yet invesco and fosun still increase their percentage.Do they have an M.O. perhaps. Surely they are not blind to the obvious. We all know there is a substantial debt to deal with, and from reading H1, it's getting paid, but Frankhauser's overly quick bad choice actions dealing with other issues are not doing the company much good. Without duplicating all of the lse posters input, the crux of the post and also my thoughts are this.....a successful company is steered by good management. The market is not only thinking the same, it's actions are flashing in big neon signs and lights like a disco. Maybe Frankie hasn't noticed. No doubt tcg price will continue the same trend this week. It's become the norm.
xc1
13/10/2018
22:19
Harriet Green always said that TCG existed and operated as "Silo's"!!! Hence they removed her from her position!
philmac56
13/10/2018
20:02
Altman Z Score suggests Thomas Cook is under serious financial stress. Bearish chart pattern suggests 1-10p!
mrfixituk
13/10/2018
17:08
to be fair that's what the market and price suggest tiger
castleford tiger
13/10/2018
16:03
Huge debt, tiny profit (if any), losing market share and a bleak outlook.
calabrian
13/10/2018
16:00
What I find fascinating is that most people on this board make excuses for TCG. They look at everything but what is important.
calabrian
13/10/2018
12:28
They need some new management. Very similar to Tui but they haven't really meshed all the different bits together. A whole raft of different businesses across europe all pulling in different directions. And some howler decisions in the past 12 months..Dart is a success story, my main concern is how they utilise their expensive new aircraft fleet in the quiet months. It places a big pressure in them to keep having blockbuster summers..
tp6
13/10/2018
11:10
Agree but TCG is not making a meaningful profit and has fairly big debts with a fair bit to be re arranged pretty soon. I don't like them talking about EBIT etc. Lets talk bottom line. For example TCG made 208m ebit in 2013 but lost 17.1p a share in eps. EBIT HAS BEEN 208 327 360 306 330 last year.and reported 15m net Hardly a booming business. This year we have slashed EBIT which could me very little net profit. Look at DART last year EBIT 242 and made 134 m Of course the key difference is the indebtedness of the group. That's why we talk EBIT I think. So any possible down turn in business TCG is far weaker than its rival Dart. I agree TCG is much bigger but its not really growing. The profits are going in servicing the debt. DART are debt free if you include customer payments. They are using that cash to grow the business. I think a financial crisis is looming here again and they need a Billion in cash rather than loan notes that carry high interest . Its difficult seeing it but any brexit or flying related issues could cause a massive problem here. Did they raise much money after the last meltdown? Tiger
castleford tiger
13/10/2018
10:47
Xc1:::::Yes but that would not be specific to TCG and would affect the industy as a whole, lots of scarmongering going on at moment. To much imho. Even mention that euro tunnel could close and tickets issued become invalid. I mean come on whatever next, its as though Dooms day is upon us, even saying the lights might go out in NI due to the electruc supply being cut off.No wonder the market is taking a batering, those buying in now at these low prices stand to make mega bucks when the dust settles and we come out the other side.... all imho of course.:)K
kumala
13/10/2018
10:36
Fully agree CT. Were all not happy about the huge drop in share price including im sure the BOD Fosun and others alike, but the market is such that it puts the share price where it is today, we can discuss the reasons why till the cows come home and probably still not come up with a difinitive answer, im sure though its a whole mix of things as has already mentioned in previous posts by me and others, and yes some reasons will afect the airline sector, some the ftse 250, Some maybe just general, we can understand and conclude that weather, brexit, oil prices, profit warnings etc etc etc has afects on the company share price but im sure there are issues we as P.I's are and will not be privi to, my concern is, is this imho over done drop due to something we dont already know? Just siting n waiting now and like most unhappy at these levels (except for shorters of course)Cheers for now.:)K
kumala
13/10/2018
07:26
Kumala you are a sensible chap who has been around for years. Do you not think that holders here are looking for reasons why the price continues to fall? Yesterday we had a pan pan and trust me airlines have these if not daily then most weeks. Then aircraft might not fly for a week and a half. Does anyone think these things are limited to tcg and not others? The market is telling us its more than that. I bought and I sold and lost a few quid. Tiger
castleford tiger
12/10/2018
22:50
Brexit fears again. Loads of noise n rumour n fear mongering going on everywhere. Even saying on news tonight that electricity suplly to N I might be afected and euro tunel trains might stop with tickets necoming invalid.Its just likw the scare mongering of the year 2000 when the whole wourld was gona come to a stand still.Crazy crazy.K
kumala
12/10/2018
20:15
Ahh, ok now we know why the drop.Missed this news earlier today.PS. Tc are their own worst enemy, they should be like the rest in this sector and occasionally stfu. Imho. But On the flip side, they are just being honest. www.euronews.com/2018/10/12/thomas-cook-says-air-traffic-could-halt-for-a-week-after-brexit
xc1
12/10/2018
19:26
Hi KYeah it's an odd one. It's easy picking for the hedge funds.Thinking back to glencore a few years back, although that was based on rumours if I remember correctly. Look how much that was hammered. Everyone thinking it was finished, bust, etc. Yes is a diff sector but I'm alluding to manipulation which occurs in any sector.TC shares price has been totally beaten up and continues to be.Perhaps the sinister hedgies know more, after all, the market is renowned for being bent. One thing you can be 100% sure of, they will move to another company, but which one in which sector.
xc1
12/10/2018
17:56
TCG is not making £300 m that the thing you all have to get out of your heads. It might make 10/50 net profit. EBIT and EBITDA mean nowt. Scemer........you are quite right and tbh I don't know how many HOLIDAYS Monarch were doing. In 10 years DART have gone from zero holidays to 3 million with the current increase of at least 500k a year. Out of 12m packaging holidays DART have 25%. I just think it has to cost TCG. Tiger
castleford tiger
12/10/2018
16:49
Good idea.I've got my win from NL but wife would go ballistic if I punt it in the stock market.
xc1
12/10/2018
16:46
At this rate a few of us could club together and buy the company ourselves..... were getting so so cheap.....K
kumala
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