Strat Aero Share Discussion Threads

[bygdennis] 07/11/2016 11:27

Kemche, You used to be all calm and cool, Now you're like a crazed old hen, If you don't know what the Lies Andy has told keep out of it! You should know as many do, but then devious rambling is your forte.
You are right, Always check the real news, It is as i always advise, Is this not so?
But does the word expect mean anything?, You expect everyone to believe anything you lot say, But, Now they don't, So the only thing you think you can do about it is have a go at me,
This is you problem,you think everyone is stupid, Far from it, Those who follow know you are bunch of hostile posters and those who don't are advised to check anything you say as it is mostly made up out of date rubbish.
You do check before you post and any positives or progress comes back altered to make it as you want it, Not as written. As I said play your games, I'll make sure you get away with as little as possible.
The difference between us is I am very optimistic Aero will progress with in this fast growing sector and recent news shows improvement, You lot have always been and still are hostile for some reason, No matter what it is, you don't play fair and got yourselves in a big mess, I'll make sure you don't get out of it if you keep it up.
Play away, I'll be here won't I.
Andy, If there's nothing here for you, Go cheat and lie elsewhere, Maybe i'll miss watching you trying to squire your way out of your predicament but i doubt anyone else will

[andy] 07/11/2016 09:41

Dennis,

"You should check before you post and you are ignorant"

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Cut out the personal attacks, you do not know me and you are not in a position to make that statement.

If I am so "ignorant", what are your views on the next placing?

Share with us your wonderful investment insight.

How much will they raise?

At what price will they raise it?

When will they raise it?

Or are you claiming they are cashflow positive and won't be raising again?

Come on, help us "ignorant" investors out and share your knowledge of this wonderful company.

[bygdennis] 07/11/2016 09:27

Andy, There are reasons why the share price is at an all time low and we have discussed this at length!, If as in the ews the last fund raise was at a highly discounted rate then it must be even a better bargain now!
They have told us otherwise about cash burn, Zaks interview! That's what they tell us and that's the fact!
There's only you lot shouting from the roof tops and your six to ten months out of date with your figures and views.
The gains are plain to see in recent RNS.
So, It is plain you have not moved on like the rest of us, You should check before you post and you are ignorant or have ignored what's happened since the new management were put in place.
This makes your suggestion about any future fund raise very questionable.
So, what you say is not worth the effort of reading until we have some reliable updates.
Anyway keep playing your word games and I will keep enjoying answering, I'll tell you why, After we get the updates!

[andy] 07/11/2016 08:27

Dennis,

"There have been good gains since the last accounts"

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Really? Where?

The share price is hovering near the all time low, that's a fact!

So where are the "gains"?

If they had turned cashflow positive they would have informed the market, they're still hemorrhaging cash until we are told otherwise, and believe me, if they weren't, they would be shouting it from the rooftops!

They are burning cash until they tell us otherwise, that is a fact!


I say a discounted placing is coming soon, my guess is it will be to raise around £500,00 - £600,000 at 0.25p, what do you think?

[bygdennis] 07/11/2016 07:56

Andy, Yes facts are facts, Are the company spending more than they receive Since the last accounts?
What do you know about anything?, As much as anyone else? so it makes your points mere guesses, When are guesses facts Andy?
There have been good gains since the last accounts so tell us Andy, where do you fit these into your out of date calculations you are calling facts?,

[andy] 05/11/2016 18:53

Dennis doesn't let facts get in the way of a good story.


I'm not sure what "recent news" should drive the price higher when the company are spending more than they receive.

And the share price is hovering around the all time low so what happened to the "spikes on gains"

[the stigologist] 05/11/2016 15:40

Yup just mind games. Nothing to do with facts.

[bygdennis] 05/11/2016 12:48

Like I said, The group! Out in force as news looks likely soon, Nothing to be negative about if recent news is anything to go by and the recent spikes on gains show improvement have been noticed.
The negative mind games continue meanwhile!

[club sandwich] 04/11/2016 22:58

Karolina - very similar to my own thinking: but as you say, it may not happen again (though there seems to be a virtually unlimited number of mug punters on AIM, and I include myself in that), and even if it does timing it may be tricky...

[sweet karolina] 04/11/2016 16:26

Club,

One possible strategy to consider. We know a placing is coming soon, we can be pretty certain there will be a ramp ahead of it, what we do not know is what price the shares will be at at the start of the ramp nor how effective it will be. It is a risk, but waiting for the ramp to start and selling in to it may get you more of your money back than selling right now.

The sort of pattern things may follow is like the 25 Aug placing. 23 Aug CAA NQE news 24 Aug Malaysia UAV training news 25 Aug deeply discounted placing compared to 24 Aug close. Mug punters who bought into the ramp screwed but those who sold into it much better off as a result.

Having pulled this trick very recently, it may not work again as everyone else may have the same plan. If you wait until after the placing, then you will just be watching more of your money disappear until either the next placing or suspension.

[kemche] 04/11/2016 15:21

I expect him to say lots of guff which will amount to not very much.

And completely avoid the question.

And use the words "leaders", "integrated", "progress", and "group".

But I'm only guessing.

[bygdennis] 04/11/2016 15:12

Hi Yorgi, I have noticed many more posts than usual on these BB's from our negative group, I put it down to new being nearer, It's almost a month now since we had an update so we are due.
This is a crucial time for them, If it's good they've had it so it's quite obvious they're having their last fling at a lower share price by causing as much confusion as they can, I doubt there will be much of an effect as we all know their game now

[andy] 04/11/2016 15:11

Ok Dennis,

I say a placing for around £700,000.

And at a price of 0.025p

What do you say?

[bygdennis] 04/11/2016 14:56

Well Andy, Great answer and i am genuinely impressed, If they do a placing and at what price would be put on one?.
We know this sector is growing and Aero have made gains, Also everyone know it takes time to negotiate large contracts, It can be a lengthy process if we understand how business is done, especially when a new technology is replacing other outdated systems, As you say depending on circumstance is most important and the next few updates will tell us more.
The share price is very low but as we know it can change rapidly if all goes well, I think most holders are showing loss but it should be considered a loss is absolute and you accept this at the highest it will be.
10 months has seen a dramatic fall but there are signs things at last have improved and are still improving,
The last 10 months has been difficult! but where will it be in 10 months time is the question, If of course anyone is able and prepared to wait that long.
We are all waiting to see what happens, Holders will be optimistic but frustrated and our group will be hoping all the progress made recently is short lived and they will have their way, Up to now they have mostly had it their way and will keep pushing for whatever they have to gain from it. As far as we know nothing at all, but no one does anything for nothing, So for some reason they hope for one more chance to get in lower or complete collapse.
But we know the gains are great news and a contract over 10 years shows the deal was made with longevity in mind and is the University deal, This should have at least a little significance and relax the tension. It is normal for an share price to remain lower then the last placing mark for a while until further progress is made.
Our group are not relaxing at all as we know getting bolder as the next news gets closer, Their nervous approach at this time shows they are not confident at all and I would say it will be probably worth waiting at least until then before making any decision.
It is ultimately up to the individual to choose how they view things as more mind games give us more pressure, It's better to check up on things put forward as they are meant to confuse as we have become used to it here.
Club you do seem very confused and that's what our negative friends are all about.

[andy] 04/11/2016 13:05

Club,

Only you can answer that question, we don't know your circumstances.

If they do a placing, you have to ask yourself will it be at a discount or a premium?

The answer to that question should guide you.

[club sandwich] 04/11/2016 13:00

Really in two minds whether to sell out of this (at a huge loss) and take what remains elsewhere. Absolutely appalled at what has happened to the share price - I bought at c6p only last Christmas - and although they're in a hot sector mgmt don't seem able to create a sustainable, profitable business.

Any views in favour of staying/going?

[yorgi] 04/11/2016 12:47

I notice that TW and his lackeys are busy on several of his targets this morning. It is no credit to ADVFN that they appear to encourage if not support his disgraceful behaviour.

[the stigologist] 04/11/2016 12:38

I would consider buying this stock if they were

1)Funded
2)Had decent differentiated product with a 'moat'
3)Had decent operational management
4)Had decent executive management
5)Had a high profile experienced BoD

So even with funding I would not trust the current lot to be able to sell/manage their product/service anyway

[the stigologist] 04/11/2016 12:36

The longer they leave it the lower the placing will be. IT's an open secret. A 'one way short'. All you have to do if you are a bucket shop client is to sell short and tell your bucket shop broker to get you some stock in the placing.

I suspect the placing will be at 0.24p and then bygdennis will spend the next year claiming what a 'liar' Andy was for getting it so badly wrong to predict a 0.25p placing when it was actually 0.24p

[yorgi] 04/11/2016 12:31

MM's still bidding above listed bid on 1m, .4225p

[pottermagic2310] 04/11/2016 12:28

Here we go....

SPs at 0.42p (an all-time low) and...
Bid 0.40 Offer 0.45

Not touching this unless I see significant Investment this month (circa £2m) and an opportunity to buy-in at well below 0.4p, 0.3p would be quite attractive but only with several positive "Ducks" all nicely lined-up.

[kemche] 04/11/2016 11:53

BygD, Lie and say "At a premium" - as you have claimed previously. That will give everyone a laugh!