Strat Aero Share Discussion Threads

[kemche] 02/11/2016 15:15

I wish it to be known here that I am in fact everyone.

[loverat] 02/11/2016 15:13

Sweet Karolina
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Wow it did not take the Loveprat long to turn up.

By the way the ombudsman is recommending I receive an apology and compensation from SRA for the diabolical way they handled my complaint, I am waiting to hear from SRA.




Well, the above looks like yet more legal claptrap from Sweet Karolina. The Legal Ombudsman deal with complaints about solicitors. To my knowledge they do not deal with complaints about the Solicitors Regulation Authority which is the regulator for the industry.

The SRA has its own complaints process which I cannot see involves the Legal Ombudsman at any stage.

Perhaps Sweet Karolina would clarify his above post?

[bygdennis] 02/11/2016 14:48

Hi loverat, I do know Andy is not tied in with our group but he has joined then in everything posted right or wrong, He has lied which is not good and makes out he is right and what he doesn't know is not worth knowing,
Basically he's just a pain in the butt who likes having the last word but doesn't realise when he's mistaken, I've nothing against anyone if they keep it clean but here anything goes, I have tried to give Andy some slack but he just won't listen,
Now as far as i'm concerned he's stuck in mode and can't get out, Cheat lie and anything to have the last word, Even asking me to prove he's not a Liar, He lies and cheats, It can be checked, but not by me, I already know and i don't need to confirm it.
I hope this will be the last of it, It's entirely up to Andy to get things right and think about what he says before posting, I advised him this long ago, He know's and should start again from scratch Do some research with an open mind, Word check what this clever group say and go from there.
Anyway these BB's are about Aero and as they are now, Not where they were, Others should also update themselves but they are the group, Andy just a roadie after a free ride, Of course their aim is to do as much damage here as they can,
Thing is there's nothing they can say now that could be seen as reliable, Just hostile guesses they hope someone who doesn't know better takes notice.

[loverat] 02/11/2016 14:43

Well I certainly can tell readers here that Stigologist, Sweet Karolina and IOPABBM do not have open minds when it comes to AIM stocks. In many ways their behaviour is worse than any uninformed BB ramper. Calculated manipulation and abusing others is their speciality. That is illustrated by the number of court appearances (and in one case I hear an extradition request) and legal threats these folk have had over the years.

[sweet karolina] 02/11/2016 14:34

IOPABBM,

If you want to bury your head in the sand, a great way to do it is to convince yourself and others that negative posters are either all the same person or are working at the direction of one person. You need no evidence at all to make this claim and if you are stupid enough to be owning a portfolio of complete dogs then you are stupid enough to simply believe it, because the alternative is that lots of more clever people who understand the basics of company accounting are reaching the same conclusion that your beloved pet share is a stinking dog with fleas.

It is interesting how the same user names show up time and time again ramping complete dogs. It could be that they are all a very small bunch of people who are being paid by the company's PR firms. However what they post is so moronic it is clear that nobody would pay for such pathetic work, thus for the most part they really are just a bunch of mug punters. As I said before, dogs like SA are totally reliant on mug punters like them and they will still be around thinking great things can still happen even when the administrators have been appointed. The problem is, because they invest in a portfolio of dogs, it does not take long before they do not have the money to waste on buying more worthless paper, even though they would if they could. Thus a stagnant pool of mug punters won't pay the next boardroom and advisors pay checks and fresh meat is constantly required.

The main reason they are so scared of negative posters is not that they may convince some of the stagnant pool to sell, but that fresh meat that approaches with a more open mind will not fall victim. Thus banning them as soon as possible is the best approach, if you can, and trying to discredit them is the fall back. Neither strategy actually works but they cannot sit by and do nothing because their beloved pet is being threatened.

[pilotov] 02/11/2016 14:28

You are right, postafter. I hear that he is quite successful, in a small way, at trading in oriental porcelain but he put upwards of 30K into SA when the share price was about 6p (mid 2015 when he joined ADVFN). He makes the same old post, using the same stock phrases " excellent package of services", "progress in this sector" etc and I'm pretty sure that these phrases are given to him to use. Any independent poster of such frequency would use his imagination a little more. He is hoping against all odds that the projectionists on this site are all wrong and that massive, quick paying, long term contracts are just around the corner. Unfortunately, he cannot grasp that this industry is not like that and little contracts (<100k) only will drip feed into the coffers. He also doesn't realize that half the negative posts here come purely because he posts such bullish trash that punters react accordingly - he has only himself to blame for the down-to-earth posts he complains so bitterly about. In the meantime, I hear on the grapevine that placings are not so easy to come by under the circumstances and that things may shortly take a course of their own...

[bygdennis] 02/11/2016 14:27

Only post, Yes you are right i don't do projections or play with the share price which is what it is and that's it, What it will be tomorrow is not a huge concern, The point is Aero are in a good place no matter what you lot come up with, There is new money coming in and you nor anyone else can say what profit is being made.
As i say you are out of date using old accounts and taking nothing new into account, I know what i know and i'm not here to tell anyone how they should appraise there own business, They will study as they see fit and any reward they get will be entirely there own making.
You lot on the other hand are the opposite, You come up with anything you can to demean aero and have doe for months no matter what positives and progress there has been. What annoy's me is you have nothing that gives any of you views and substance, No need go through it again, But i will of course as you are determined to keep up with your ridiculous summaries and out of date information, those who follow here know all to well.
So again, You have almost everyday said the same thing over and over, so it's not regular readers you want to take notice of you, They know who you are and what you're doing here, It's anyone who may be interested in finding out more, Seeing you 24/7 negative made up over view of everything and making sure you have majority here, Might just put them off before they check things for themselves, That's the only reason i can think of why you post so much, Bit of red today too, So it will be important for you to lay a good siege here, It doesn't really matter, News will come and then you'll have no choice but to find another share to harass.
In fact i am very happy you post so much, As things have improved dramatically it give me the opportunity to inform readers of your antics and encourage them to have a good look at the progress made over the last 6 months or so.

[ionlypostafterbbms] 02/11/2016 14:07

Sweet K,

I see you have been identified as TW himself by an idiot named yorgi (the tread starter) & our own resident genius bygdennis on the Liars & Rampers thread.

Welcome to the gang!

[ionlypostafterbbms] 02/11/2016 13:59

byg doesn't do projections, analysis or answers. He does ramping & lying.

He's an idiot mug punter who finds himself deeply, irretrievably underwater in this POS & is trying to sucker in new mugs to support his losing position.

His money is gone never to return, his position doomed.

[sweet karolina] 02/11/2016 13:40

Sorry Dennis whether or not a company is trading whilst insolvent is the single most relevant question anyone putting money into or supplying goods and services a company needs to ask, it is important to potential customers too.

I have given my projection, based on 4 months trading during which very little of the announced new contract revenue would have come in, of what the net current liability situation is based on what it was 4 months ago. My best case was $1.5m.

What is your projection for net current liabilities right now?

What is your projection for when the company will stop burning cash like it is going out of fashion and start generating cash?

Waffling on about progress and very minor contracts is irrelevant cold hard cashflow is what enables companies to survive or sends them bust.

[bygdennis] 02/11/2016 13:17

Well This TW whoever he is seems to be the one behind this group, Sound very much like he's the big boss revered by these hostile worshippers.
Did i read he was the self appointed Sheriff of something or other, Looks very much like someone Robin Hood and his merry men would disapprove of, Yes The sheriff and his hostile group doing their best to undermine anything good while progressing and in a positive move forward.
Trying so hard to prophet using other peoples money and feelings to gain an edge, Whatever it is, No, I am not impressed at all by this group and all ID's concerned.
It is really laughable as are all your attempts to demean Aero at this time, They are irrelevant,
Simple checks show you to be out of touch with events of the last six months or so, and anything you use as your feeble evidence is past and gone,
It is obvious the next account should show improvement as there have been good gains, So sweetie pie, Basic Maths you were saying, More work and more progress means more pay, Not difficult to work out if you look at things realistically, Don't you think?. Was it 1.8 million over the next 18 months? Not to be sniffed at is it? and there's more work like Hinkley point Etc: to consider. Funny you never include anything in your mind games, Only try to help, You areall being very silly continuing when you know you have nothing to continue with.

[sweet karolina] 02/11/2016 12:08

Wow it did not take the Loveprat long to turn up.

Why does he never contribute to the discussion and only attack people who hold similar views to TW?

Can he point out any flaws in what is a very simple financial argument for why SA is doomed? No if he bothers to look he will agree that SA is doomed, but he could never bring himself to do that so will just continue making personal attacks whilst not contributing anything to the discussion.

By the way the ombudsman is recommending I receive an apology and compensation from SRA for the diabolical way they handled my complaint, I am waiting to hear from SRA.

The complaint I made to ICAEW regarding the diabolical job the auditors did on TXO's annual accounts is still rumbling on, as they have had to go back to the auditors with a 4th round of questions. So clearly I do know something about company accounts and the tricks employed within them to deceive investors.

I have never faced a libel action. An attempt was made to shut me up with an injunction. The injunction request was withdrawn before it went to court with all costs being paid by the bullies. Not that the true facts ever actually bother the Loveprat.

Loveprat will now spam the board with a load more drivel that adds nothing to the debate so it is back on filter for him.

Loverat
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[sweet karolina] 02/11/2016 11:41

Dennis,

Can you not do simple maths. Look at the half year report at 30 Jun net current liabilities were over $1m. Some money came in from the Sep placing but more has gone out supporting cash burning subsidiaries, paying the board and advisors, paying legal bills and paying off HS. The company was technically trading whilst insolvent back in Jun and the problem is even worse now.

Actually I do have a pretty good understanding of the industry, but it is largely irrelevant as the issue is really very simple accountancy. Negative current assets, very little cash in the bank, revenues growing slowly but not reaching the bottom line so cash burn continues making the problem even worse, share price collapsing, no serious investors interested in pouring their money down the drain, only route to more desperately needed cash is regular drip feed bucket shop placings until even these dry up as there simply aren't enough mug punters with enough money to waste backing their delusions for the bucket shops to flip on to. Sooner or later creditors will want their money back and suppliers will put them on a cash upfront basis and the next step is administration, the only thing that is hard to predict is exactly when that point will arrive. If they can't get a placing away in the next month or so it will be before Christmas, however if they can continue to drip feed out placings or can commit a Panama Pump style fraud or get some sort of death spiral funding arrangement in place, then they can limp on longer, but all of these still rely ultimately on the appetite of mug punters for more of SA's worthless paper. None of this has anything to do with the UAV industry - exactly the same principles apply in any business that is in the state SA is in.

A few choice bits from Half year report:

"Administrative expenses amounted to US$2,387,675 (Period to 30 June 2015: US$1,308,232), a large portion of these costs continue to comprise of wages and salaries, consultancy and professional fees associated with a public company. In comparison with last year's level of costs it should be noted that H1 2016 incorporates the full impact of meeting Aero Kinetics' working capital commitments and also the working capital commitments associated with Geocurve"

"Revenues from inspection, survey and consultancy services remained below expectations due to slower than anticipated adoption of UAV solutions by larger customers."

My guess is net current liabilities are somewhere between $1.5m and $2m right now. The company is clearly trading whilst insolvent as there is no realistic prospect of raising that amount in the near term and any that is raised more than evaporates by the time the next placing comes around. However whilst "consultancy and professional fees associated with a public company" can still be paid out of placing proceeds, the people who really should be pulling the plug / resigning have no incentive to do so as they are never held accountable for failing to protect the wider market (investors, creditors & suppliers).

The point Stig made about new customers being wary of signing contracts with a company on the verge of bankruptcy is a valid one.

[bygdennis] 02/11/2016 10:47

Hello sweetie, Just like your group very sour indeed and word too!
Funny how we get all these experts in negative mind games, You're getting very desperate now introducing new blood into your campaign, Won't work my friends but keep trying.
We're getting on well here, The difference is The positive progress is fact, Your negative over views are wayward guesses and misinterpretation made to misinform and make doubts, It doesn't take long to check anything you say is made up waffle, The only reason anyone would take your views seriously is you back each other up with different ID's posting as if they've been here before, NO, Just backing your own play,.
Try again! your all worn out with nothing reliable to offer, Everyone with a real interest in Aero knows by now you are just a hostile group doing their very best to demean Aero, Nothing else, Just like a bunch of ex football hooligans out to do as much damage as possible for no reason at all.
Or do you have a reason?? Tell us!
You have no real knowledge of the technology or the benefits it is bringing, Nor the huge potential what Aero have developed which is significant as are the recent gains made no matter how you try to deny it.

[yorgi] 02/11/2016 10:26

Bygdennis

I have had a quick look and Sweet Karolina is clearly yet another TW username or someone posting on his behalf in support of his trolling website. I noticed he has just posted an article and link to his troll website on the ADL BB. ADL is another company TW is trolling a company with a high calibre BOD and anyone of them has achieved far more than TW has or ever will if he lives another 100 years !

[yorgi] 02/11/2016 10:15

Bygdennis

You are quite right they don't and bear in mind TW will be behind several of the usernames doing his best to undermine AERO. It is a clear pattern of his and quite transparent.

[bygdennis] 02/11/2016 10:10

Hi Yorgi, As you understand more about these things than most, you will probably have noticed i take the group posting here very seriously for obvious reasons.
They have nothing to offer at this time but maintain a presence over viewing everything in a hostile negative way when now there is little to be negative about.
Their present attempt at mind games is they have used a headline that Aero expects to raise further funds, Of course this doesn't mean much as any company in a growing sector will do their very best to grow with it even though Aero have a proven package of services and have made gains with government and big business there is much to gain by keeping ahead and develop further when possible.
This group have posted hinting at a placing, giving prices and amounts that are just idle speculation, Now they post that that there will be a placing as actual news and not a possibility, Very clever and i have pointed out there is not truth in anything they put forward, Just another hostile guess to cause confusion.
Have you any views on this type of behaviour and what you think maybe the reason they could have for doing this type thing over such an extended period even though the improvements are plain for everyone to see especially recently.

[kemche] 02/11/2016 10:05

SK, agreed completely.

[sweet karolina] 02/11/2016 09:57

Stig, of course there won't be a profits warning before the placing - it will come after the placing, unless they can hide the diabolical situation completely until they have to get their accounts past the auditors.

What there will be is some form of ramp blathering on about great progress and maybe dressing up some new contract to look more lucrative than it really is - an acquisition using company paper of some "fantastic" little company is a remote possibility for the ramp. Whatever the basis of the ramp, the aim will be to suck in mug punters so bucket shops can forward sell deeply discounted placing shares. Genuine IIs who put big money into AIM microcaps are like the tooth fairies.

There just aren't enough mug punters out there to absorb much more than £500k worth of heavily discounted shares, even with a good ramp behind it. Thus any money raised will only be enough to keep them going until the auditors come in and at least one, if not 2 placings will be needed before sign off of the accounts. Even then it seems unlikely that a going concern emphasis of matter would not be required.

[the stigologist] 02/11/2016 09:01

I wonder what the financing gap is doing to the sales pipeline and lead times ?

Most sensible customers would hold off committing until they were sure the counterparty was going to be around to service any contract.

Could we be due a profit warning before the inevitable placing ?