Rolls-royce Share Discussion Threads

[1me me] 07/8/2020 08:18

Maybe the reason for the drop a forced seller. Now out of the way :-)

[geckotheglorious] 07/8/2020 07:53

ROLLS-ROYCE: Activist shareholder ValueAct Capital sold its entire stake in British aero-engineer Rolls-Royce.


I've not seen an RNS - might have missed it though...

[svenice7] 06/8/2020 21:33

I won't change my philosophy because of your doomsaying. Good luck to all holders.

[pallys] 06/8/2020 20:47

"Svenice7
3 Aug '20 - 14:12 - 4401 of 4411
Be greedy when others fearful"

Lol you do realise the person you are quoting sold all his shares in this sector don't you?

There is being greedy then there is being stupid, just like your previous ramping of £4 next week £6 next month malarky.

You shouldn't post rubbish like that in here because some newbies will unfortunately buy shares off the back of comments like this.

FWIW - I'm still waiting on the sidelines, hasn't met my entry criteria, never did when it was 240p for a couple of days 2 months ago or when it hit 212p.

It's still overvalued based on balance sheet.
A £1.5b share placing will be nowhere enough because of cash burn - it will net lose that in <3 months.

Based on my calcs RR needs to raise an additional £10+ billion to get through this, on top of the current £8b credit facility it currently has.

They are not expecting recovery until 2023 - so those sitting on losses - dont expect your money back soon, inc. those that got sucked into the £4 rally.

Pre-covid RR was 4b in debt, post covid it will be 5/6 times that amount and is not reflected in the share price if you do the math.

The 2007 crash (which actually bottomed 2 years later in 09) is a drop in the ocean compared to whats happening today - albeit is not reflected in the indices yet, because, imo, covid caught the smart money off guard so they are unwinding out first, before the plebs lose their shirts (and their jobs).

[davidbrentsflipflop] 05/8/2020 18:40

no but your wife is susie?

[simongn] 05/8/2020 18:14

careful said in 4386

"To add some balance I am sure the present Government do support RR. in various ways, they recognise its importance."

Care to elaborate on how the Govt. do this bearing in mind they are still working within EU competition laws until the end of the year ? You said you are sure there is support, in what way specifically ?

[high yields] 03/8/2020 22:41

Is your name Warren?

[high yields] 03/8/2020 22:39

For NY BOY

STOP WRITING NONSENSE...

[svenice7] 03/8/2020 20:38

Porsche the xenophobe who trolls and hates all british.

[porsche1945] 03/8/2020 17:37

God I called this pos bang on six months ago despite half you idiots getting all fired up and defensive. Its debt ridden, will likely have to be completely restructured wiping out investors. It was screwed long before the covid fiasco. It’s an airborne Aston Martin. If you want to buy an engineer buy Tesla or something US run and owned rather than hopeless brexit basket case self harming british owned.

[svenice7] 03/8/2020 15:44

Smelly short seller story

[cumnor] 03/8/2020 14:16

These pre planned and announced rights issues are nirvana to the short hedge funds and arbitrage traders. Will bring this to a quid if they can.

[svenice7] 03/8/2020 14:15

End of June they had 4.2 billion. This rumour of raising of money stinks and could be fake news by one of the shorting hedge funds.Anyone done any research on the links between daily mail group, alliance bernstein and sandbar asset management? ;)

[svenice7] 03/8/2020 14:12

Be greedy when others fearful

[stalker_boy] 03/8/2020 13:49

You mean in your portfolio

NY Boy23 Mar '20 - 14:48 - 3297 of 4399
0 0 0
RR’s stupidly cheap imo, I bought a few at 306p, see where we are in a years time.

Support1: 306.10 Support2: 254.68

[ny boy] 03/8/2020 13:43

Long term these will recover well post Covid, a successful vaccine will speed the process up but second waves etc will keep the trend going, I will definitely be adding a lot more once we know the rights issue price.

I’m sure I read RR were involved in the next generation of electric powered aircraft? if so, definitely a long term winner.

No rush though, I have these on my watch list

[josh 32] 03/8/2020 13:11

In America stock futures are up so while we wallow in our self pity America is getting on with it

[josh 32] 03/8/2020 13:08

And in itv case total shorts positions are around 2 percent ??

[josh 32] 03/8/2020 13:01

Lloyd's bank bt.a itv are all at their lowest point itv actually recovered to 90pence from its low point in april but have now fallen to its lowest point from 135 in February to 55 pence now so rolls royce is just part of the general panic by share holders

[hamhamham1] 03/8/2020 12:23

Rr. Will never be sold to overseas nowadays. Some overseas locatedassets may be picked off.

[minerve 2] 03/8/2020 11:33

Can't disagree with that. Why has this happened? Rhetorical question. I have a good idea. Some people wouldn't like it.

[kulvinder] 03/8/2020 11:29

Minerve 2, it was a better company then, as at least it cared about it's UK employees 17 years ago....unlike today's world.

[careful] 03/8/2020 11:26

Rights issues are usually underwritten for a fee so the money is always guaranteed.

But as you say, with all the games that traders play the share price will fall.
Many stuck with larger holding will be 'tail swallowing', selling some hares to take up their rights.

The value of RR. is longer term, what it would be worth to someone else.

Could you imagine what Rolls Royce would be worth to a Chinese company if Donald Trump or Cummings would allow it?

Just fantasising, but United Technology of the USA would love to pick this up, but there is the golden share, 'what Golden share says Boris?, Trump has instructed me to remove it.

[1me me] 03/8/2020 10:37

Right issue will need to be very attractive. 50p/75p will be good. Shares normally hit rights issue price before they start moving up.