Mediclinic Share Discussion Threads

[nevik2] 11/6/2013 15:30

Jagzoil earlier you mentioned PJ had been talking to Ladbrokes. Do you know anymore, were they talking back or just thanks we will let you know?
Jagz you would appear to know where and what PJ is up to any updates?
Cheers.

[samk4] 11/6/2013 09:32

It's all over

[bw123] 10/6/2013 08:15

Most comeback with news so lets hope thats the case here.

[nevik2] 10/6/2013 07:44

It will also depend on the Auditors, their workload.
Neither do MDC have anything to gain by coming back sooner than later.Just a comeback will do nothing for the share price other than tank it to new levels.

[jagzoil] 10/6/2013 06:49

Agree with swiss, PJ has stated it will take weeks not month, the 'weeks' end on the 7th week, as 8 weeks will be two monthS.

[swizz] 10/6/2013 05:56

Based upon what was required, as in re-publishing the accounts on the original time line requirements, (post qualified auditor process), I would say a month to 6/7 weeks is about right, any more than this and I will be dropping a note the BOD and NOMAD, to see what is going on, so IMHO I don't believe we have reached the ominous stage just yet,.......GL S

[sprydon] 09/6/2013 21:12

The lack of any update looks ominous.

[nevik2] 06/6/2013 09:49

I think it's finished software wise, deals are what is needed. I hope relisting coincides with other news.
Aim is so unreadable. Look at HER great rns after great rns, does it shoot up? nar goes down. Absolute bargain at the moment, I've put all I can get my hands on in Her, one day the market will do the right thing and send it up. Aim shares get pulled all over the place.
If MDC is to come back, being out at the moment with nothing to shout about is a good thing.
Meantime take a look at HER and see if you think it's worth investing in, easy decision I think.

[tigmi] 06/6/2013 07:45

Might as well stay suspended until they get it finished, then there are no massive swings in the share price to worry about.

[pwhite73] 05/6/2013 21:35

With the football season now over this could remain suspended until the start of the new season Aug/Sept 2013.

[ryan83] 05/6/2013 20:04

come on PJ!!

[adh0] 04/6/2013 09:42

"Re issue of betting in euros why do you think it is just aimed at uk punters?"

Fair point.

[nevik2] 04/6/2013 08:10

Aviva and direct line are two I know do not list on go compare type sites.
That's the point, if Ladbrokes, William Hill etc do not want to be listed, where does that leave the software?
Ladbrokes WH and others do not need Intabet/gocompare, I don't see anything in it for them, they already have a huge presence in the market and spend millions on ads. The bookies that would have something to gain are the smaller ones with limited promotional budget. They would get equal billing alongside the big boys.
I can't think the big boys would find that very attractive.
I just wonder if this has been the hump that has held us back.
Intabet need the likes of Ladbrokes on board and they say OK what can you offer us? And MDC say we can offer you.......?

[cliveas] 04/6/2013 06:03

nevik2 you could say that about go compare,compare the market .com etc.

Why do ins companies allow themselves to be compared to all others because the 'punter' will just go to the cheapest?

because they will lose out completely if they are not on the site.

Is there anything legally stopping intabet quoting any bookies odds on their site as long as they're correct?

Remember the likes of box nation do not have a gambling licence and using intabet is a way around this to access gambling income.

Re issue of betting in euros why do you think it is just aimed at uk punters?

[nevik2] 03/6/2013 21:29

If I was a bookie I would aim to have a couple of best headline grabbing prices but would want to tempt further bets once the punter is on my site. Intabet would do away with that as the punter would go wherever the odds are most favourable and never really get onto the site.
I still can not see what sort of deal Ladbrokes could broker to increase business for them.I hope there is something.

[adh0] 03/6/2013 17:46

"2nd page on betcomparer shows William Hill, Ladbrokes, Betfred, Totesport, Bet3000, bet365 and bodog. If I were a bookie and associated with a company which is about to go down the pan I wouldn't allow my corporate logo to be displayed on MDC's advertising. Just a thought..."

Of those it is pointless Bet3000 only allow accounts in Euros so any currency conversion charge would destroy the value in higher odds and also I think they charge a 5% tax on winning bets.

The others do virtually no checks on who puts the banner up linking to them they only pay out if the customers have lost money to them, ergo they have won £100 and pay back £25 to the affiliate, they cant lose and could not care less who that is that sent them. In fact if the affiliate (Intabet in this case) were to go bust all the better as the gambling company (Ladbrokes) would keep the clients I expect just not have to pay Intabet a cut anymore! BINGO.

The fact Bodog is listed there is particularly laughable that they might not want to be associated with a company about to go down the pan when they are likely to go any time soon themselves. Have you been to bodog.com recently? The Feds will catch up with the owners sooner or later.

Which is just the start, the very very start, of how any hope here is false hope. No disrespect intended, but I dont think any of you really know what you are talking about.

[ndg72] 03/6/2013 17:19

Turn of phase, no disrespect intended. I would think it would be more about volume of bets and competition between the bookies for that volume...

[jagzoil] 03/6/2013 17:19

its all about creating a competitive market...bookies will aim to have the best price...it will bring incremental revenue to the bookies! Those who bet at willhill will only bet at willhill, however if a punter uses intbet or bet compr to bet on willhill then its incremnetal revenue....also i believe intabet will be aimed in the asia market aswel so great exposure

[nevik2] 03/6/2013 17:07

Yeah I get what Intabet does, but how does that benefit Ladbrokes.
If the punter sees all the best odds unless you have the best odds you lose the trade.
It would become an auction for best odds, great for the punter but not so good for the bookies.
What kind of deal could Ladbrokes strike that earns them extra not potentially lose the trade?
Suddenly the field is levelled and the punter gets to see what all bookies are doing.
I doubt many casual punters managed lots of accounts and compared every bet.
P.S. I have no intention of ever sucking an egg so not much chance of teaching me :-)

[ndg72] 03/6/2013 16:17

2nd page on betcomparer shows William Hill, Ladbrokes, Betfred, Totesport, Bet3000, bet365 and bodog. If I were a bookie and associated with a company which is about to go down the pan I wouldn't allow my corporate logo to be displayed on MDC's advertising. Just a thought...

[ndg72] 03/6/2013 16:07

In response to nevik2, and no intention to teach you to suck eggs, but both intabet and betcomparer are a one stop shop for the best odds. If ladbrokes have the best odds then more punters will use them rather than other bookies. As someone who has a flutter now and again I don't need multiple accounts with different bookies and search continually for those odds. Both sites could be good for both the bookie, the punter and most of all MDC. If the advertising is right and it gains good exposure then it could be huge... BUT first MDC need to get back to trading.

[nevik2] 02/6/2013 22:53

samk4, what exactly in the last dozen or so posts points to it being anything crooked?

[nevik2] 02/6/2013 22:48

I saw no Ladbrokes ad?
ndg72, that's good work, it looks a possible scenario, certainly better than how it looks on the face of it.
I can't get my head around on how a bet compare site will benefit Ladbrokes, would it potentially show better odds else where? losing Ladbrokes the custom.
Neither does this eliminate the possibility of mdc going under and twl getting MDC for a packet of nuts, reaping all the rewards for little effort or expense.
Fingers crossed it works out well, I've a few thousand £'s in here, a relisting and blast up the chart would be nice rather than a kiss it good bye outcome!!