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London Finance & Investment Group Plc

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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
London Finance & Investment Group Plc LSE:LFI London Ordinary Share GB0002994001 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 39.00 2,373 08:00:02
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
38.00 40.00 39.00 39.00 39.00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Investment Offices 0.49 -0.44 - - 12.17
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
11:07:04 O 2,373 38.25 GBX

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Posted at 25/4/2022 13:55 by topvest
Maybe a tad optimistic in my view. I would settle for LFI paper. They do probably need a share consolidation to squeeze out the hundreds of very small holders for a nominal return though.
Posted at 25/4/2022 07:04 by russman
Interesting idea.
WSE take over LFI for paper.
LFI offer a cash alternative to buyout minority.
Effectively Marshall's retirement.

Posted at 20/4/2022 19:20 by smithie6

"In effect we contribute to the running costs of the Marshall family UK head office."

....& when 2 Marshalls were receiving dirs fees from investee cos & WSE/LFI then the annual return to the Marshalls from their money invested was pretty good,

for them !

Posted at 22/12/2021 06:05 by russman
Not sure why the Marshalls persevere with WSE/LFI; too much hassle / publicity.
They moved most of their empire into the UK decades ago for "political" reasons.
The family is based in Switzerland mainly for tax / anonymity.
In effect we contribute to the running costs of the Marshall family UK head office.
No real investment strategy.

Posted at 21/12/2021 16:29 by smithie6
I managed to double the value of my portfolio from 1 Jan 2020 to now

whereas the LFI share price (& I assume the NAV) is down ~10%.

Sometimes it feels like they are asleep.

Posted at 21/12/2021 16:24 by smithie6
"The strategy is simply not working."

Arguably the strategy is not to make capital gains


to pay a high % of return each year to the Marshall family
via wages & benefits

if my memory is correct they own ~40% of LFI but get a return of X from 100% of LFI & 100% of Western Selection

& when D.Marshall was younger he also collected dirs fees by sitting on some boards where LFI/WSE invest (eg. NBI)

although has their return reduced because D.Marshall has got older & has stepped down from some bods & sadly 1 son who was receiving dirs pay at different investee companies passed away.

The ownership structure of Western Selection lets the Marshall's control it without directly owning 1 share themselves !

Posted at 23/1/2019 12:00 by smithie6
LFI & Western Sel.
main investments not done too well imo in last 6 months

Finsbury Foods. Bilby. Swallowfield

..each down 30-40%

& NBI ...long term it divided by about 4... 2017-18...up from 70-90p to fall back to 115p now..
...if only the nicely paid 'experts' (😂😂) on the bod had taken the big profits at 4-5 pnds/share

& the 'new' strategic investment in Bilby has been a non-event so far...

Posted at 29/4/2016 13:58 by smithie6
While the Marshall thing is a negative factor the share price looks cheap vs NAV which has been in up trend for last 2 or so yeaes I think....mostly due to FIF price rise

Discount to NAV looks a bit big at the moment & FIF share price perhaps relatively solid the big discount is phps unwarranted ?

Posted at 12/11/2011 14:04 by markt
The NAV of the shares of LFI of Mr D.C.Marshall (Mr Marshall's family trusts being the biggest single shareholder) does not appear from what I can see to have performed over the longer term.

The LFI NAV in 1990-1994 was 33p, 21p, 20p, 37p, 34p.
1996= 47p, 1997=45p
The LFI NAV 2006-2011 was 52p, 66p, 39p, 25p, 27p, 35p

Share price performance over 10-20 years looks to be....random !.and down

If it had been invested in Black Rock or A.N.Other fund for small companies the 33p would now be 4-6 times greater, ie 130p-200p.
Whereas LFI share price is 22-24p. Very different.

..imho it does not show any up trend or demonstrate investing skill
(5-6M pounds lost by not selling MWB holding, with LFI cap. value around 7M now, that is a big amount of money lost....tiny or negligible chance that it will ever be recovered imo)

With inflation 33p in 1990 would now be worth around 50%-100% more, 49p - 66p. The dividends have not kept up with inflation.
Imo shareholders in LFI have lost money since 1990-1994.

I don't propose to sell shares...I propose that changes are made at LFI....change investment strategy (if has not worked), change control of the board, separation of the board from the investment manager (and replace them if performance is ever poor), avoid having anyone on the board of investee companies (that strategy has not worked)

possible new investment manager(s) ?
lots out there in small company sector with good records...

Posted at 12/5/2011 18:07 by cautious investor

Independence is a state of mind. Not everyone is as self serving or as incompetent as you seem to believe. Have you met Mr. Lucas? Are you going on personal experience? Or is this just more outpourings from your vivid imagination?

Where do you get this idea that Loeb Aron are receiving any commission? What makes you think that auditors would have overlooked such an obvious possible related party transaction?

Share prices (as any aspiring economics student can tell you) are based on the balance between supply and demand. Your ill informed and highly speculative posts can only reduce demand and thereby reduce LFI share price. Is this what you want to achieve? If it is, all readers of this blog, myself included, would benefit from an explanation of why you want to reduce the LFI share price?

If your objective is only to speculate about theoretically possible but totally unsubstantiated misdemeanors, then you have already achieved this ad nauseam, and having performed this "public service", unless there is overwhelming demand from other readers of this thread, I do not see any benefit from your continuing participation on this thread.

If other readers want you to continue, please will they post to that effect. I will then stop following this thread and start a new one for those who want a thread based on reality, rather than outlandish fiction. Markt, if you do not get support from other readers, please stop posting here.

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