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[stonedyou] 03/2/2019 09:29

Yvette Cooper - Low-grade Labour nobody bloated with a strong self-importance....




THE SUN SAYS Low-grade Labour nobodies bloated with self-importance still say they know better than 17m Brexit voters


Parliament this week sent them a clear message — their hopes to overturn the biggest democratic mandate in our country’s history will come to nothing


Labour Party's hopes to overturn the biggest democratic mandate in our country’s history will come to nothing (pictured Yvette Cooper)


But now they have turned their guns on Brexit-supporting Labour MPs who have put constituents and country above their pathetic party’s posturing.

These low-grade nobodies are already so bloated with self-importance that they’re happy to say they know better than 17million Leave voters.



And they DARE to target MPs for the crime of voting for what their constituents want?

It’s exactly the sort of ideological purity battle Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour specialises in. The Tories need to show they’re above that.


We don’t agree with much of Nick Boles’s plan for a Brexit so soft as to be barely Brexit at all. This week’s amendment, co-signed by Boles and Yvette Cooper, could have holed the whole operation below the waterline.

But that does not mean he should be deselected. The Tory party has always been a broad church and it serves as a better party of government when pragmatism is its guiding force.

[xxxxxy] 03/2/2019 09:22

The Welsh political elite are still holding the Brexit-backing population in contempt

The leadership of Welsh Labour passed from Carwyn Jones to Mark Drakeford after he beat Vaughan Gething and the peer and former MEP Eluned Morgan in a three-way contest. All three contenders for the position of Wales’s First Minister are typical of Welsh Labour’s delusional continuity Remain tendency. Despite representing Leave-supporting areas of Cardiff including Ely, Fairwater and Caerau, Drakeford used his first press conference to announce the Welsh Labour Government would campaign for Remain in the event of a second EU referendum. He has called for a “second public vote” if Parliament did not back continued participation in the Single Market and “a customs union”. During the leadership election he told the New Statesman he is not a Unionist and does not have a strong sense of British identity, a sentiment more apposite to metropolitan Islington than Islwyn.

etc

[xxxxxy] 03/2/2019 09:17

LEAVE and WTO

[bargainbob] 03/2/2019 09:13

Oh my quite a turn around .

[diku] 03/2/2019 09:07

What about the joe public?...



Plan to evacuate the Queen after a no-deal Brexit
Whitehall has drawn up secret plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of riots following a no-deal Brexit The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh to be moved out of London to a secret location, which The Sunday Times has agreed not to disclose.

[xxxxxy] 03/2/2019 09:06

The UK should lead freer trade worldwide

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: FEBRUARY 3, 2019

I have made two consistent requests of the UK government whilst I have watched the negotiators reach an Agreement Parliament could not possibly accept. I have asked that the UK tables a comprehensive free trade agreement with the EU and says we should negotiate it once we have left, allowing both sides to avoid any new barriers or tariffs whilst we negotiate it. I have also asked that the UK tables its own schedule of tariffs for April 2019 assuming the EU refuses all co-operation. These tariffs should be lower than those imposed by the EU on the rest of the world, thereby cutting our tariffs on the bulk of our trade whilst imposing them on EU trade for the first time as we have to under WTO rules.

There are two advantages of tabling a draft Free Trade Agreement. The first is the EU has indicated that would be easier to agree with the UK than a half in half out arrangement of the kind the present UK negotiators seem to want. The EU has free trade agreements with various smaller countries already and has just managed one with Japan. Our draft should be based on the best of the EU/ Canada and Japan agreements, so we can say to them we are only asking for what they have already granted to others. They and we might then want to add some more to that. The second is we could then under Article 24 of Gatt/WTO agree to no new barriers pending agreement. This would be especially advantageous to the rest of the EU given their huge surplus with us in food and cars, where tariffs would otherwise be imposed.

The ERG is working with experts to produce a full legal text draft. I look forward to its early publication, as then the government could just table that one if they still have not drafted one of their own. The government could itself produce a scissors and paste version of the EU/Canada or EU/Japan treaties to get the conversation started.

I have also repeatedly asked for publication of our own tariff schedule.I think EU tariffs are in some cases too high. I would want us to remove all tariffs from imported components so we can say to industrialists based here it will be cheaper to make things once we have left. I would like us to remove tariffs on food we cannot grow for ourselves. I would suggest lowering other food tariffs a bit. It is an important judgement to balance consumer interests in no tariffs with farmers interest in some tariff protection, which would for the first time extend to protection against EU as well as non EU produce.

The publication is essential for two reasons. The first is we may well leave with no Withdrawal and future partnership agreement in March, so farmers and traders need to know what the tariff regime will look like when they decide what to grow and what to buy from world markets. It would also be a timely reminder to the big food exporting industries of the rest of the EU that they will face tariiff barriers in default of a Free Trade Agreement, which might make them keener on a Free Trade Agreement.

The government should also tell us how it will spend all the extra tariff revenue it could collect. A mixture of spending increases and tax cuts would provide a welcome boost to the economy, jobs and wages.

[gotnorolex] 03/2/2019 08:59

Plan to evacuate the Queen after a no-deal Brexit
Whitehall has drawn up secret plans to evacuate the Queen in the event of riots following a no-deal Brexit The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh to be moved out of London to a secret location, which The Sunday Times has agreed not to disclose.

[gotnorolex] 03/2/2019 08:42

BBJ is it not also widely accepted that the tried and failed socialist solution is nothing but the "Nirvana Fallacy"?

[bbalanjones] 03/2/2019 07:58

k38::Do you REALLY think that we can do something about UK corruption? Our system s are just as corrupt and loaded against the average citizen as most other countries.The rich and powerful have always controlled the rest of us and legitimised what they do, usually by the type of "religious philosophy" that emphasises "reward in the Next Life". (You lot can't expect it in THIS life). We are all mugged by this.

[whatgoesupcomesdown] 03/2/2019 01:44

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

[whatgoesupcomesdown] 03/2/2019 01:37

Search for 5+ thousand years temperature graphs. Look for yourself.

[grahamite2] 03/2/2019 00:44

In the middle ages the climate was unusually warm. In the 18th century it was exceptionally cold. Climate changes as part of nature.

[whatgoesupcomesdown] 03/2/2019 00:19

Nissan cancels planned plant extension because of brexit.

[minerve] 02/2/2019 23:59

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[stonedyou] 02/2/2019 23:50

This guy in Sierra Leone how long was he in the practise of psychic ability????

[maxk] 02/2/2019 23:45

Are you all asleep?

General election in the air according to the box.

[stonedyou] 02/2/2019 23:42

Do they still make Carling special brew 9%

[minerve] 02/2/2019 23:39

I boiled the kettle earlier. I know there is a lot of evidence and science implying that it is the element that heats the water but some guy in Sierra Leone wrote an article in The Express suggesting it might be something to do with psychic ability. My skills as a practising scientist tell me I should avoid the consensus belief focused on the element and consider the witch doctor's view. He got paid 5617668.24 Sierra Leonean leone's for the article so there must be some truth in it. I switched off the electrics and am focusing hard on the kettle as we speak. Grahamite, have you any idea how long I might need to stare?

[stonedyou] 02/2/2019 23:37

Oh I forgot congratulations to the English rugby teeeeeem for beating the Irish

on their own, home soil......Brexit victories come in many ways....Ah ah ah ah ah

ah ah ah ah ah ah ah!!



PS I wonder if our lads had`ve lost....what would getonminerves have said.....Hmmmm