Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 15/12/2020 20:02

Are you saying that the UK has already gone into liquidation? A bit too early. ;)))

[grahamite2] 15/12/2020 20:00

What is the value of a contract with a company in liquidation? It is a similar situation.

[grahamite2] 15/12/2020 19:57

Alphorn15 Dec '20 - 18:02 - 324807 of 324831
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PC - my understanding is that they are rights that have been sold. So unless nationalised they belong to the owner/purchaser. What I don't know is whether they are 'lease like' with a time frame.

They are rights under a political dispensation that will soon no longer exist. They must necessarily become as valueless as Confederate money, or fishing rights issued by Yugoslavia. Come January 1st, novated contract rights against the UK will have to be issued, or values assessed and compensation paid. The original contracts will be nullities.

[jl5006] 15/12/2020 19:45

Stay in and none of these deals apply
Bad blood everywhere.
Just tell them BJ - businesses need to know.

[jordaggy] 15/12/2020 19:44

"BORIS JOHNSON has called members of the eurosceptic European Research Group into No10 this evening, Express.co.uk understands" apparently, Noel Edmonds has joined them too!

[utrickytrees] 15/12/2020 19:43

Yes JL5 the popular media dictate public opinion & it's the politicians who are charged with appeasing the public.
Its disgraceful that our government have to embargo national broadcasters like C4 & the BBC on matters relating to Brexit, the government dont actually have a popular media outlet do they? Good to see online options like talk radio coming to the fore. Heres Kate Hoey today talking about media brexit coverage if you get chance to have a look.

[jordaggy] 15/12/2020 19:37

Yes Alp, I think so, we were scuppered when Briden got in!

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2020 19:34

Press releaseUK and Mexico sign trade dealThe UK has today (Tuesday 15 December) signed a trade deal with Mexico, locking in tariff-free trade and other benefits for British businesses and consumers.Published 15 December 2020From:Department for International Trade, Ranil Jayawardena MP, and The Rt Hon Elizabeth Truss MP

[utrickytrees] 15/12/2020 19:31

In 2015, the CFP allocated the United Kingdom a total of 612,612 tonnes of quota from more than 100 different fish and shellfish stocks. The total EU quota for these stocks was 2,069,202 tonnes, so the UK was allocated 30% of these fish (and shellfish) quotas.

[alphorn] 15/12/2020 19:25

#482. Will that be better than the status quo?

There will be some short term rally until someone reads the small print and makes a detailed comparison.
(Remain long Ords & LLPE).

[nick100] 15/12/2020 19:24

https://flip.it/Ef63Qp

[alphorn] 15/12/2020 19:20

Ut - you think that or you can quote that? The Express article may of course be untrue but the Express is followed on here more than the eg BBC.

DEFRA might also be untrue - but it is the UK government. ;))

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2020 19:17

Roger Thrush15 Dec 2020 7:15PMMy trust in the EU as fair-dealing people is zero.If they had much to offer I still don't think I'd be interested in a deal with them because they are so untrustworthy, but a seriously one-sided deal with virtually nothing we want or need that is against our interests has well below zero appeal.I'd take NO DEAL and be delighted to do so... Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2020 19:13

EUSSR = Negative + Parochial + Closed DoorsUK = Positive + Embracing + Open for business.

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2020 19:09

EUSSR = negative cannot do +Introspective.UK = positive + Global

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2020 19:00

EUSSR relegated Westminster to a Rubber Stamp parliament.Soon Westminster will again be a proper Democratic parliament responding to our people.Liberty31st December 2020.No DealWTOLiberty

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2020 18:56

These are all good reasons to press for the No Deal Brexit. The best reason of all is to be free, living in an independent country. I want to help pass on a country that is self governing, a beacon for democracy. Brexit means taking back control of our laws, our borders and our money. That way we will be better governed. If any given government lets us down we can sack them and get the answer we want from another. That is something we could never do as members of the EU. They gave us the laws and we did not control the government.... John Redwood

[cheshire pete] 15/12/2020 18:54

Level playing field is part of what makes the EU the protectionist racket that it is. False premise is that UK standards once we've left will somehow be inferior. Not necessarily the case, for example treatment of live animals exported to EU. We can have higher standards and still undercut them once we've left.

Go for it Boris. Embrace no deal.

[xxxxxy] 15/12/2020 18:51

Sovereignty. Sovereignty. SovereigntyIt is priceless.It enables.It is Democratic.No DealWTOLiberty

[jordaggy] 15/12/2020 18:50

Brino is probably the best news we can expect, great for ftse and banks, no so good for liberty.

[alphorn] 15/12/2020 18:43

PC - a bit more research on these rights. They look permanent although some owners may lease them on or rent them out. (A couple of adverts that I found).

"Defra’s data reveals Spanish firms have bought permanent control of 88 percent of the fish quota for Wales, including whiting, hake, pollock and sole. These fish are mainly caught by one vessel, the Armaven Uno, which belongs to Arzaven (UK), a company whose owners live in Spain.

A spokesman for Lesley Griffiths, the Welsh environment secretary, said: “Welsh vessel owners — as did Scottish and English — have legitimately sold their boats and quota allocations to UK companies with owners in other EU states.”"