Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[maxk] 30/9/2020 10:59

Well summed up graham!

[newbank] 30/9/2020 10:36

Mitchy,

Post 12401: A No Deal would sow the seeds for the U.K
car industry to be reborn. We are great innovators and could challenge even Tesla given time.

The UK still make great cars, ie, Noble, started by Lee Noble in Leeds, now head office in Leicester

[grahamite2] 30/9/2020 10:32

cheshire pete30 Sep '20 - 09:30 - 315769 of 315771

As long as Boris extricates us from the EU without fudging, obfuscation or delay voters won't give a fig about any number of mistakes made during a pandemic that was not of his making.

You couldn't be more wrong, in my opinion. It's because I value liberty that I want to leave the EU; there's not much point walking out of a foreign dictatorship and into a home-grown one.

Boris has got nearly everything right: leaving the EU and really leaving, not in name only; attacking the grotesque waste that is foreign aid; dealing with the left wing quangos such as the BBC; etc etc.

But what he's doing with the COVID situation is demented. He's taking advice from seriously discredited scientists; it's one thing this week, the opposite next; he's following policies that CAN'T make any sense, like forcing shoppers to wear masks but not the people serving them - and all this is being carried out with Stalinist zeal. I pointed out yesterday why laws that are "confusing and difficult to explain" are bad laws.

He has got to be stopped in his tracks this afternoon.

[cheshire pete] 30/9/2020 10:18

Ah but then Gecko, they could hardly have come out and said we're going to have lockdowns but most of them will be in areas with high immigrant populations, for 'obvious reasons'.

It took some time before the reasons for the hotspot in the West Midlands in the first wave were stated publicly and then if I recall it was the Guardian lol who pointed out 'cultural factors'.

[chavitravi2] 30/9/2020 10:17

Careful, correct. Its just the experts and government that is in fear of the blame game. Logically there is no difference between furlough, people out and about spreading it and people going to work and out and about. The difference is the same.
But one is crucifying our jobs and economy by refusing to accept it is part of our life now the same as flu but with a lesser death toll. Isolate just the once now the old and sick for 3 weeks or so and let the fit and well get out there and get it and the immunity leaving the virus nowhere to go. Job done.

[diku] 30/9/2020 10:15

Bojo comes across too relaxed and lets other people run the show...too much in the background and not in the fore front.....unlike Trump controls and runs the show as he is the showman...

[geckotheglorious] 30/9/2020 09:56

Graham,

I'd agree. Plenty to criticise in the manner of the lockdown.

It also seems this virus is mostly prevalent in areas with high Immigrant populations..

London/NE England.

Funnily enough where these lockdowns now are as well...

Not hearing much of Covid-19 down Devon/Cornwall way for example.

[careful] 30/9/2020 09:36

Boris Johnson yesterday, Trump Biden today.

Maybe we get the leaders we deserve.
The morons adore Johnson and Trump.

Johnson has no grasp of detail and has never managed people.
Bad laws will always be ignored as in Americas prohibition.

Young people by now know many other young people who have tested positive and come through Covid19 without any problems.
..so they ignore the rules, they know this virus does not seriously affect them.

I know a number of young that have tested positive and had it. No problems apart from a temporary loss of taste and smell.
The young do not need a bogus expert, a professor, to scare them.
They have direct personal experience which is better.

Covid19 is not as serious as the normal flu for the young and fit. Normal flu kills the young. Covid 19 hardly matters to them, much milder.

Both flu and Covid19 kill off the old and sick, as always.

[chavitravi2] 30/9/2020 09:31

Cant understand it. Two blokes who should be sat back with their feet up growing into senile serenity and instead wanting to do it in a top job. Cant understand it or the people who put them up for it.

[cheshire pete] 30/9/2020 09:30

So Boris found the new restrictions confusing and difficult to explain.

So what? They are.

As long as Boris extricates us from the EU without fudging, obfuscation or delay voters won't give a fig about any number of mistakes made during a pandemic that was not of his making. They'll just put it down to the usual lefty media having a pop at him.

[pwal] 30/9/2020 09:29

It didn't do them any favours.But they got past it. And when dividends are allowed to be paid again I would want to be holding.

[loganair] 30/9/2020 09:26

Sadly Lloyds was destroyed by the UK government making them take over HBOS, then stinging them with billions upon billions of pounds worth of PPI claims in order to put money in the hands of the spenders to keep up their spending on consuming.

[sr2day] 30/9/2020 09:17

great leaders were born in previous centuries.they don,t make them any more,just like everything else.all cheap stuff.

[scruff1] 30/9/2020 08:58

One thing for sure the market is a bag of nerves. It doesnt know what to do. If someone shouts boo it either shoots up or down. Biden, Trump - at least we got Doris phew

[xxxxxy] 30/9/2020 08:37

Boris. Probably isn't too involved in rule detail.But wondering. Perhaps he is batting real clever. Know in about 8 weeks.USA a bit mad as well. Difficult couple of months.Cash is King at moment.

[mikemichael2] 30/9/2020 08:08

Massive country like America and all they can come up with is those two clowns.Biden's ready for the box and seems to be on his way, Trump,well...........

[xxxxxy] 30/9/2020 08:04

But those who see a vaccine as a way out of this hole are deluding themselves. Edward Jenner invented an inoculation against smallpox in 1796 and yet it continued to kill millions until its eradication almost 200 years later.The first lockdown was sold to us not as a means to avoid illness and death, since that is not possible when a pandemic hits, but to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed. The upshot has been to place much of the country into a state of panic-stricken paralysis with every sign of worse to come. Historians will look back on these times and scratch their heads trying to work out why the response was so disproportionate to the threat. Of course there is a trade-off between health, economic well-being and freedom; but action to stop infection has to be balanced against the risks and the collateral damage caused by the cure. The problem throughout this crisis is that the Government has not done that in public.Today's debate in the House of Commons to renew the Coronavirus Act, which gives ministers extraordinary powers to rule by decree, will finally address this central flaw at the heart of the strategy, even if MPs are denied a vote on procedural grounds. Ministers say they sympathise with the calls for greater parliamentary scrutiny and yet arbitrary laws spew out of Whitehall with no consultation and from no obvious source. They defend their approach on the grounds of "clarity" yet everything is chaotic and confusing. Even Boris Johnson found it hard to explain the family gathering rules yesterday and yet they are now subject to the force of law.This is just not good enough. While we cannot expect Parliament to micro-manage the pandemic response, the Government should nevertheless submit restrictions on personal liberty to a panel of senior MPs and peers that sits in public and hears the scientific justification for each measure. ... Philip Johnston... Daily Telegraph

[buywell3] 30/9/2020 08:00

USA debate sinking futures

buywell sees more of the same from here on in

whammy number 2

[mitchy] 30/9/2020 07:58

Legarde gobs off at 8.20am and German unemployment figures at 8.55am .

[mitchy] 30/9/2020 07:55

Up at the start and dribble away after 9am ? 24p range by 4.30pm ?

[xxxxxy] 30/9/2020 07:53

No deal is better than being a colony of the EUBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: SEPTEMBER 30, 2020Yesterday I made the case again for no more U.K. concessions to the EU in the debate on the Internal Market Bill. I will post the speech later this morning.The Withdrawal Agreement was based around the promise of a future relationship which had its core a Free trade agreement where the EU would respect the UK's sovereignty. There is no good faith by the EU over this. It's time to leave and to be independent.