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[cheshire pete] 30/9/2020 10:18

Ah but then Gecko, they could hardly have come out and said we're going to have lockdowns but most of them will be in areas with high immigrant populations, for 'obvious reasons'.

It took some time before the reasons for the hotspot in the West Midlands in the first wave were stated publicly and then if I recall it was the Guardian lol who pointed out 'cultural factors'.

[chavitravi2] 30/9/2020 10:17

Careful, correct. Its just the experts and government that is in fear of the blame game. Logically there is no difference between furlough, people out and about spreading it and people going to work and out and about. The difference is the same.
But one is crucifying our jobs and economy by refusing to accept it is part of our life now the same as flu but with a lesser death toll. Isolate just the once now the old and sick for 3 weeks or so and let the fit and well get out there and get it and the immunity leaving the virus nowhere to go. Job done.

[diku] 30/9/2020 10:15

Bojo comes across too relaxed and lets other people run the show...too much in the background and not in the fore front.....unlike Trump controls and runs the show as he is the showman...

[geckotheglorious] 30/9/2020 09:56

Graham,

I'd agree. Plenty to criticise in the manner of the lockdown.

It also seems this virus is mostly prevalent in areas with high Immigrant populations..

London/NE England.

Funnily enough where these lockdowns now are as well...

Not hearing much of Covid-19 down Devon/Cornwall way for example.

[careful] 30/9/2020 09:36

Boris Johnson yesterday, Trump Biden today.

Maybe we get the leaders we deserve.
The morons adore Johnson and Trump.

Johnson has no grasp of detail and has never managed people.
Bad laws will always be ignored as in Americas prohibition.

Young people by now know many other young people who have tested positive and come through Covid19 without any problems.
..so they ignore the rules, they know this virus does not seriously affect them.

I know a number of young that have tested positive and had it. No problems apart from a temporary loss of taste and smell.
The young do not need a bogus expert, a professor, to scare them.
They have direct personal experience which is better.

Covid19 is not as serious as the normal flu for the young and fit. Normal flu kills the young. Covid 19 hardly matters to them, much milder.

Both flu and Covid19 kill off the old and sick, as always.

[chavitravi2] 30/9/2020 09:31

Cant understand it. Two blokes who should be sat back with their feet up growing into senile serenity and instead wanting to do it in a top job. Cant understand it or the people who put them up for it.

[cheshire pete] 30/9/2020 09:30

So Boris found the new restrictions confusing and difficult to explain.

So what? They are.

As long as Boris extricates us from the EU without fudging, obfuscation or delay voters won't give a fig about any number of mistakes made during a pandemic that was not of his making. They'll just put it down to the usual lefty media having a pop at him.

[pwal] 30/9/2020 09:29

It didn't do them any favours.But they got past it. And when dividends are allowed to be paid again I would want to be holding.

[loganair] 30/9/2020 09:26

Sadly Lloyds was destroyed by the UK government making them take over HBOS, then stinging them with billions upon billions of pounds worth of PPI claims in order to put money in the hands of the spenders to keep up their spending on consuming.

[sr2day] 30/9/2020 09:17

great leaders were born in previous centuries.they don,t make them any more,just like everything else.all cheap stuff.

[scruff1] 30/9/2020 08:58

One thing for sure the market is a bag of nerves. It doesnt know what to do. If someone shouts boo it either shoots up or down. Biden, Trump - at least we got Doris phew

[xxxxxy] 30/9/2020 08:37

Boris. Probably isn't too involved in rule detail.But wondering. Perhaps he is batting real clever. Know in about 8 weeks.USA a bit mad as well. Difficult couple of months.Cash is King at moment.

[mikemichael2] 30/9/2020 08:08

Massive country like America and all they can come up with is those two clowns.Biden's ready for the box and seems to be on his way, Trump,well...........

[xxxxxy] 30/9/2020 08:04

But those who see a vaccine as a way out of this hole are deluding themselves. Edward Jenner invented an inoculation against smallpox in 1796 and yet it continued to kill millions until its eradication almost 200 years later.The first lockdown was sold to us not as a means to avoid illness and death, since that is not possible when a pandemic hits, but to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed. The upshot has been to place much of the country into a state of panic-stricken paralysis with every sign of worse to come. Historians will look back on these times and scratch their heads trying to work out why the response was so disproportionate to the threat. Of course there is a trade-off between health, economic well-being and freedom; but action to stop infection has to be balanced against the risks and the collateral damage caused by the cure. The problem throughout this crisis is that the Government has not done that in public.Today's debate in the House of Commons to renew the Coronavirus Act, which gives ministers extraordinary powers to rule by decree, will finally address this central flaw at the heart of the strategy, even if MPs are denied a vote on procedural grounds. Ministers say they sympathise with the calls for greater parliamentary scrutiny and yet arbitrary laws spew out of Whitehall with no consultation and from no obvious source. They defend their approach on the grounds of "clarity" yet everything is chaotic and confusing. Even Boris Johnson found it hard to explain the family gathering rules yesterday and yet they are now subject to the force of law.This is just not good enough. While we cannot expect Parliament to micro-manage the pandemic response, the Government should nevertheless submit restrictions on personal liberty to a panel of senior MPs and peers that sits in public and hears the scientific justification for each measure. ... Philip Johnston... Daily Telegraph

[buywell3] 30/9/2020 08:00

USA debate sinking futures

buywell sees more of the same from here on in

whammy number 2

[mitchy] 30/9/2020 07:58

Legarde gobs off at 8.20am and German unemployment figures at 8.55am .

[mitchy] 30/9/2020 07:55

Up at the start and dribble away after 9am ? 24p range by 4.30pm ?

[xxxxxy] 30/9/2020 07:53

No deal is better than being a colony of the EUBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: SEPTEMBER 30, 2020Yesterday I made the case again for no more U.K. concessions to the EU in the debate on the Internal Market Bill. I will post the speech later this morning.The Withdrawal Agreement was based around the promise of a future relationship which had its core a Free trade agreement where the EU would respect the UK's sovereignty. There is no good faith by the EU over this. It's time to leave and to be independent.

[mitchy] 30/9/2020 07:45

So whats going to dump on us today ?

[utrickytrees] 30/9/2020 06:47

xxxxxxxxxx Jock News xxxxxxxxxx

Black history month: postboxes to be painted black to honour black Britons. Four postboxes have been painted black to honour black Britons including Sir Lenny Henry and nursing pioneer Mary Seacole.

Spokesperson for Scotlands Glasgow postbox site 'Roberto McBargain commented ' Aye, as a country weve done everything possible to try and tempt the blackies up here over the years but they're just not interested. Christ knows our national football team could benefit from a bit of black & so could our cheerleaders for that matter.' Weve actually got no black candidates to choose from so I'm delighted to announce that weve honouring Ian Blackford cos he sounds a bit black.'

[jl5006] 29/9/2020 22:49

The Q is Y.
Gove is a kipper - would not trust him.
Plse be sincere.
BBC and Sky have done all they can to screw those that voted to leave.
Maybe this is nothing about leaving but it seems like it.

[xxxxxy] 29/9/2020 22:17

 Mike S , Tuesday, September 29, 2020, 12:15:Covid-19 is now nothing more than an means to an end to keep control of power! The main stream media keeps harping on about how wide spread & deadly this virus is,& to some,I have no doubt it is,but,to the vast majority,it isn't! We keep hearing about the potential spreading of this virus but,the only thing we hear about those of us who aren't buying this is how ill informed we are & it's going to be our fault if things get worse! Any resemblance to the Brexit argument?! I mean,we cannot meet our families in any household,we cannot speak to our families in the street,but we can meet up with & speak to them in a pub up to 10pm were the virus becomes more deadly than it was at 9:59pm! The government, with the support of the media,is now trying to cash in on this by fining anyone for the least little thing! But,how can someone pay any fine of between £500/£1000 up to £10.000 if they have lost their jobs because the powers that be want to keep the power tripping exercise they have been enjoying! We might be leaving the EU but, instead of becoming a free independent country,we are steadily becoming the Communist State of Great Britain! Both the government & media,more so the BBC,most likely are punishing the people of the UK because we voted to Leave the EU! One day we can do this, the next day we can't,the next day we can to a certain degree,the next day it's something else! The devolved governments of the UK don't know what they are doing & all this dithering from one day to the next is nothing more than governments unable to decide on how to proceed precisely because it's now all about keeping control of the people! Not any virus!