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[xxxxxy] 25/2/2020 19:30

The Home Office and ImmigrationBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: FEBRUARY 25, 2020In the 1980s and 1990s Ministers and officials in the Home Office administered a relatively successful Immigration Policy. It typically ran at 50,000 net migrants joining the UK population each year. It was never above 100,000, and was at 48,000 in 1997 when the Conservatives were replaced by Labour in government. This level enabled us to be generous over refugees, and to meet the business requirements for special skills or seasonal workers.The new Labour government wanted policy change to boost numbers. The civil service and the EU were very helpful. It soon rose substantially. Between 2004 and 2007 it ran above 250,000 in each of the four years, some five times higher than the previous government's preferred level.The newly elected Coalition government in 2010 appointed a Conservative Home Secretary who made clear her wish to bring numbers down from over 250,000 to below 100,000. Home Office officials were asked to work on various ways to help achieve this. After an early fall to 176,000 in 2012 it accelerated away again to well over 250,000 in each of the years 2015 to 2017.In the 2017 election the former Home Secretary had her chance to review this policy and targets as Prime Minister. She reconfirmed them, stating in  the Manifesto that "our objective  (is) to reduce immigration to sustainable levels, by which we mean annual net migration in the tens of thousands rather than the hundreds of thousands we have seen over the last two decades". She also made clear she wished to control EU as well as non EU migration, thus ending freedom  of movement.We need to ask why was it that the Home Office did not implement policies that met these Manifesto pledges? They had shown how it was possible to run such a policy in the 1980s and 1990s. They could have been in no doubt about the wishes of their Home Secretary, nor of the new Prime Minister in 2017. This failure raises interesting questions about the relative responsibilities of senior officials and elected politicians. Whilst I of course defend the constitutional principle that the Home Secretary has to take the public blame for failing to implement her own policy, we do also need to ask about the wider departmental failure.Today we read of problems for the current Home Secretary to  get her policies implemented in a timely and helpful way. I would urge officials in the Home Office to see that they had had years to get ready to cut migrant numbers, and soon will have full powers over EU migrants as well as from the rest of the world. Surely they can draw on their experiences in recent years, and on the new powers they can create, to succeed this time round? If not the Prime Minister would be right to allow new senior officials who can."

[aceuk] 25/2/2020 19:30

I guess we'll be welcoming back good old King Canute shortly

Never ever thought I'd say this, but minerve is just about the only voice of reason here

Watch those nets don't snag ....

[k38] 25/2/2020 19:29

It's not one way traffic.. if they want a deal they have to accept our freedom. We are out, it's over!

[mitchy] 25/2/2020 19:17

54.8 million bought after the bell at 53.52p

[cheshire pete] 25/2/2020 19:14

Walk away Boris.

Talk of red lines sends wrong message, because it has been shown as a failed strategy under May.

Only one thing Barnier and crew will take notice of and that's walk away no deal.

Meanwhile forge links with other countries. Much ground work done by Dr. Liam Fox already.

[cheshire pete] 25/2/2020 19:07

Send in Royal Navy to keep foreign boats out of our waters.

[cheshire pete] 25/2/2020 19:06

We voted leave...end of. Get used to idea.

[jacko07] 25/2/2020 18:59

This FTSE fall is now all about Boris and his stupid little sovereignty red lines.
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Minnie, you let slip with that one..What a stupid thing to say about Boris is to blame, are the falls worldwide due to Boris.

You are a modern day William Joyce, Tokyo Rose traitor, a paid troll, my guess is you are a 300lb obese Bulgarian asylum seeker in a bedsit, somewhere in the North of England.

The Stasi are coming!

[maxk] 25/2/2020 18:22

It would seem that you cannot teach a remainer to count.

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 18:19

Just ignore the medieval thinking. You cannot teach a monkey calculus.

[careful] 25/2/2020 18:16

we need each other.
If we fail to get a decent trade agreement we shall all suffer.

I cannot understand the 'battle of the Somme' thinking.

We lost 100,000 dead, but the Germans lost just as many.
That is ok then according to the muddled thinking of xxxxxy.

[xxxxxy] 25/2/2020 18:03

The EUSSR needs the UK. More than we need Prison EUSSR.No DealIt is

[crossing_the_rubicon] 25/2/2020 18:03

Called "Leverage" isnt it xxxxxy.

Uk should use such.

[xxxxxy] 25/2/2020 18:02

EXCLUSIVE: UK is biggest buyer of EU27's services in the WorldLatest EU figures reveal UK is EU27's top export market for services, bigger than USA?© Brexit Facts4EU.OrgUK is bigger for EU27 than China, Singapore, Japan, Russia, Canada, Brazil & India combinedThe latest figures released by the EU's official statistics agency have revealed a significant fact ahead of the UK-EU trade talks which are due to start next week – or whenever the EU have finally decided their negotiating position.Naturally this new information from Thursday has not been publicised by the EU Commission, nor by the BBC, so the Brexit Facts4EU.Org team thought that the British people, politicians, (and the UK Government's Brexit negotiating team) might wish to know.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYUK is the global 'Numero Uno' market for the EU27, in selling its servicesThe UK buys more than one-fifth of the EU27's global sales of services?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeThe UK market for the EU27 is :-14% bigger than the USA'sOver four times bigger than China'sOver seven times bigger than Japan's (with whom the EU has belatedly signed a trade deal)Over 10 times bigger than Canada's (with whom the EU has also belatedly signed a trade deal)Bigger than China, Singapore, Japan, Russia, Canada, Brazil & India - put together

[xxxxxy] 25/2/2020 17:59

The EUSSR isn't worth spitting on.No Deal

[xxxxxy] 25/2/2020 17:58

We are out of the Prison EUSSR.But we are still shackled. Let's cut the shackles to that Prison EUSSR. Work in progress. No Deal

[xxxxxy] 25/2/2020 17:55

No Deal it is.Boycott goods and products of the EUSSR.No Deal.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 25/2/2020 17:47

The European Union went on the offensive over the U.K.’s obligations in any post-Brexit trade deal. With formal talks due to begin next week, chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier issued an ultimatum, saying there will be no trade deal unless the U.K. agrees to the bloc’s demands on fair competition and fishing.


"These arrogant fokkers don't understand what "Leave the EU" means.

It means they no longer dictate who comes to our fishing waters, nor our trade policy, nor state aid(Which Germany/France flout far more frequently)

Till to grow a pair.

Offer them a FTA or it'll be Trump style tariffs"

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 17:21

Say no to Trump's dirty meat.

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 16:28

This FTSE fall is now all about Boris and his stupid little sovereignty red lines.


What price for a blue passport, eh?

LOL

[xxxxxy] 25/2/2020 16:27

John Redwood@johnredwoodTime to fight world recession. The markets are giving a warning. Bring on the increased spending and the lower taxes we need.