Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 16:26

Do you know how Brexit will end, gammons? The portrait will be unhung, and the man will be 'hung'.

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 16:23

Patient

"Immature language"

Better than an immature brain, eh?

LOL

When do your balls drop by-the-way, little boy?

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 16:21

Boris's promises of a better future and prosperity have fallen by the wayside which will leave in their wake a path of destruction. The outrages committed by our government are a stain on the honour of the British parliament and its people. There is widespread disgust towards the methods executed by this autocratic government, the export of British civilians, the ostracising of EU citizens, civil service denial, watering down of employee and human rights, watering down of food standards, selling off the health service... My duty as an English patriot is no longer to save my country, but to protect its citizens from this plutocratic satan. I cannot find one MP in a position to confront Boris with the courage to do it. I find myself surrounded by men unwilling or unable to face the truth; Boris is not only the archenemy of the Remainers, but the archenemy of Britain. A change must be made.

[mikemichael2] 25/2/2020 16:17

Oh dear, looks like 52 being taken out!!

[patientcapital] 25/2/2020 16:12

Immature language.

[jordaggy] 25/2/2020 16:12

I think this virus is the excuse the markets were waiting for...

Don't watch this video; it's frightening!

[malcolmmm] 25/2/2020 16:05

Answers on a post card please

[malcolmmm] 25/2/2020 16:04

After Caroline Flack's suicide we are supposed to be kind to each other. is kicking someone in the teeth kind?

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 16:01

PZ doesn't meet my criteria anyway. It hasn't got a high enough ROE and ROCE.

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 15:58

jacko07

Please don't lie.

I HAVE NOT been tipping PZ Cussons at all. I've just stated that if Carex starts to fly off the shelves they stand to gain. That is different from me stating "Buy" PZ.

You know what they used to do to liars don't you? You unfortunately make a habit of it. Is that because you can't win arguments based on truths?

IMO it has more opportunity to do better over the next 24 months than Lloyds but that is an opinion based on my negative views towards this cliff that mouthy Boris wants to take us over.

[malcolmmm] 25/2/2020 15:48

The vaccine that the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and drugmaker Moderna have been developing to combat the coronavirus is ready to be tested on humans, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Wall Street Journal.

The state of play: The rapidly developed vaccine will be tested on 20–25 healthy volunteers in April to determine whether two doses will be safe and generate an immune response to protect against infection. Results will be available in July or August, Fauci told WSJ.

The big picture: The timing of the drug's development and expected clinical trial is extraordinary. "Going into a Phase One trial within three months of getting the sequence is unquestionably the world indoor record," Fauci said. "Nothing has ever gone that fast."

[jacko07] 25/2/2020 15:37

P Z Cussons..minerve has been tipping them for months, they will be down to 150p soon.

They don't call Minnie the share 'Jonah' for nothing, Woodford was flying before his romance with Minnie.

ROFLMAO

[crossing_the_rubicon] 25/2/2020 15:28

Anyone told the WHO about this development as they're still claiming 12+months away from a vaccine...

[malcolmmm] 25/2/2020 15:26

Moderna shares maybe worth a punt .I believe they have risen today

[crossing_the_rubicon] 25/2/2020 15:26

Wow,that is bullish.

""Going into a Phase One trial within three months of getting the sequence is unquestionably the world indoor record," Fauci said. "Nothing has ever gone that fast"

Let's hope it ends well.

[malcolmmm] 25/2/2020 15:24

The vaccine that the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and drugmaker Moderna have been developing to combat the coronavirus is ready to be tested on humans, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Wall Street Journal.

The state of play: The rapidly developed vaccine will be tested on 20–25 healthy volunteers in April to determine whether two doses will be safe and generate an immune response to protect against infection. Results will be available in July or August, Fauci told WSJ.

The big picture: The timing of the drug's development and expected clinical trial is extraordinary. "Going into a Phase One trial within three months of getting the sequence is unquestionably the world indoor record," Fauci said. "Nothing has ever gone that fast."

[mitchy] 25/2/2020 15:10

And still the buyers come...

[nomdeplume] 25/2/2020 14:59

If I were in the Government, I would play up the Coronavirus as the same precautions will reduce the incidence of influenza. This will reduce waiting times in A&E, resulting in less pressure on the NHS. A good result.

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 14:56

Ref PZ:

ROE and ROCE not particularly exciting although a renewed focus on core business will improve those in the near future. Debt forecast to reduce by quite a bit.

[bargainbob] 25/2/2020 14:52

Minerve 185 p today Pz Cussons. Interesting .

[maxk] 25/2/2020 14:42

And the aircraft are still flying .. pandemic, what pandemic?

[crossing_the_rubicon] 25/2/2020 14:36

Rabobank: Several Things Cratered Yesterday

The first was global stocks.

The second to crater was global bond yields.

The third to crater was arguably the credibility of China’s virus-collection statistics.

The foreign press have published several stories during this crisis that have questioned the accuracy of the data being presented: now the Chinese press has too. Caixin newspaper is alleging that COVID-19 deaths being hugely under-reported at old people’s and nursing homes, with this being a key demographic hit by the virus. The sample is very small, just one home, but in it 19 deaths have occurred recently, of which just one was recorded as being due to COVID-19, which seems highly irregular. If true, this could mean that the virus’s fatality rate is significantly higher than being reported, even as deaths rose ‘just’ 71 yesterday in China. That higher mortality rate, especially for the elderly, would also be more in line with the shock of 50 deaths that Iran reported yesterday (though there is confusion over that number too) and most all of the recorded deaths seen in Italy so far.



The fourth to crater must surely have been the WHO’s reputation



The same institution that has been lavishing praise on China’s virus lockdown while simultaneously arguing that similar measures internationally were totally unnecessary is still refusing to call this a “pandemic̶1;,--despite South Korea, and Iran, and Italy--a designation that would legally force the hand of governments world-wide. We are right on the edge of that definition, apparently, but not there yet. “Using the word pandemic now does not fit the facts, but it may certainly cause fear…what we see are epidemics in different parts of the world affecting different countries in different ways,” said the WHO boss, who added that in China the situation now appears under control, which again means it can’t be a pandemic. (Note that the WHO has form in terms of when it does and doesn’t cry “pandemic̶1;, which appears to be a moveable feast and not a gold standard. The question is who moves it and why.)

The deaths recorded in Iran and Italy, worrying as they are, matter more than we think. Italy has already seen China-style quarantine imposed yet the EU, like China, insists on a ‘WHO’ message that international controls on free movement are not needed. However, generally people don’t catch COVID-19 and *suddenly* die. The evidence is that it takes several weeks, often symptomless, before it claims a life, during which time the infected individual has been able to spread it to all around them in various ways. In short, if there are already deaths, it suggests that there are likely to be many other as-yet unrecognised clusters of cases within Europe, the Middle East, and elsewhere. Consider how many ‘targeted̵7; travel bans might have to be introduced if that comes to pass, just like the one that Hong Kong, itself on some travel bans, is now imposing on South Korea - against WHO advice, of course. Consider if COVID-19 gets into the Syrian refugee population; and consider where the Syrian refugee population may then try to get to in response.

[minerve 2] 25/2/2020 14:26

I had thought about buying PZ Cussons. They sell Carex, which will obviously sky-rocket in sales if this thing takes off in the UK/Nigeria. Consumer Goods > Personal Goods not really my comfort zone though. Reasonable yield/fair price.

[kanjam] 25/2/2020 14:18

Procter & Gamble makes more than 90 percent of its product in China and the European Union so STOCK UP!