Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 23:06

Man is either gone crazy or playing the new game..'buffet says Occidental is a bet on long term oil prices'

Hold on a second... 'preferred stock...8% yield?

What's the bet... I think it's only a bet if an ordinary shareholder.. .

He is no more in that for long term oil prices than Jackie Chan

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 23:01

Been timing them nearly 20 years. Even buffet admits timers are the better players. Just not many good ones about..

Hope his luck doesn't run out averaging down.. .well his luck can't can it? Only punishes his blinded followers

[minerve 2] 23/8/2019 22:57

Sentiment

Buffett's investing encourages continual purchase on market declines. He positively looks forward to it so he doesn't need to know when a crash comes and he doesn't really care.

You will not time markets. You'll be the loser.

[lippy4] 23/8/2019 22:55

minerve as the multi millionare on the thread who knows all yet spouts gibberish,a bit like a monkey who he mentions all the time tells us that he is the new monkey messiah..

oooh, oooh,ooh,i am the king of the swingers says he.................

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 22:49

Difference is Minerve.. .he wont lose if most go bust... power of true money...you have risk he never has in most stocks.. Time and exposure.. .unless you do your risk side control .

You better start

Here we come...........

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 22:47

Buffet suffered three massive overall value drawdowns of over 50% in the past. The 70's..the late 90's and the financial crisis...so it seems the master can never see the danger signs..

One day he will be like woodford...one event away from no escape..apple will become a kie. Fargo and bank of America.. rbs and Lloyds.. .

But at least he can wait two decades for recovery, if it ever comes of course in those stocks .. .haha

[hernando2] 23/8/2019 22:46

Basically China have been stealing IP for years, everybody knows it and all POTUS before ducked the issue. I am not saying Trump is right in how he is going about it, but they have been stealing for years.

I am sure it has ben part of the negotiations and i would hazard a guess that China said, we want to continue stealing and Trump got angry.

[gotnorolex] 23/8/2019 22:38

cheshire pete Yes I remember black Monday well, but should know better now! This is wanton destruction of finely balanced international/interdependent trade with Beijing at a golden economic time.
The average American's standard of living will drop considerably without China made consumables! Almost all children's clothing from top to toe is Chinese! Toys, phones all mass produced circuit boards and electronic products that need nimble fingered assembly and pretty much every affordable product. I remember someone in my industry saying sell Zenith (home entertainment & white goods) to the Koreans (LG) and we drop the All American quality seal for Nothing American! which in no time came to pass!
Trump is a brute who built his empire on Mafia tactics, filing for Chapter 11 more times than he has been prosecuted for assaulting attractive women and this misanthrope gets elected President.
Impeach this thug now!

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 22:36

Buffet will be in a museum soon on display . Representing the 'Market Stone Age'

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 22:33

Minerve, you have never seen the likes of me. We dont really visit forums much...

How can you follow the buffet way? His money buys a seat on the board or a controlling interest and very preferenced shares. Can you? No. So your not really following his way

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 22:31

The biggest laugh today? Income investors.

3 to 10% a year on cap? I wouldn't get out of bed for it if i couldn't have it by lunch time

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 22:21

Minerve it's the new markets. What you call sensible, is incomprehensible to today's money controllers. These guys now laugh at the ways of buffet and co

New world order. Gotta learn how to trade now.. .or get left behind

[lippy4] 23/8/2019 22:13

scotland without england would still be in the backwoods as it gained its wealth riding on the shoulders of the british empire,i have to admit that without scottish management of the empire would have been sorely lacking.

the truth is that both gained from their amalgamation of talents and that is why we as a union should stay together....

scotland has still much to gain in the future but unfortunately socialism especially in glasgow will be the undoing of our relationship as we see with the management of the country in recent times.

if you doubt what i say just look at the history of why we formed the union originally because scotland was broke through bad management..........

[minerve 2] 23/8/2019 22:10

Sentiment

Go and play somewhere else, you are boring me.

WTF do you know about anything?

[sentimentrules] 23/8/2019 22:06

Yes Minerve...no straight jacket required

[lippy4] 23/8/2019 22:02

alphorn living in the swiss country where then eu wants to screw your independence and tell you what to eat for breakfast i am amazed you have no support for your country.
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you come across as another person more interested with money than supporting the anti eu swiss who have been telling the eu where to go with their over bearing dictator platitudes...

[minerve 2] 23/8/2019 22:02

"All part of the game Minerve."

Really?

Oh, is that what it is. 🙄

[xxxxxy] 23/8/2019 21:56

Lest we forget


Just to concentrate minds. SO let's LEAVE and WTO.



2011 - Cadbury moved to Poland with EU grant.

2011 - Ford Transit moved to Turkey with EU grant.

Jaguar Landrover new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, sold to Volkeswagen last week.

Peugeot closed Ryton plant (was Rootes Group) moved production to Slovakia.

British Army's new Ajax armed vehicles to be built in Spain using Swedish steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant instead of Wales.

Dyson goes to Malaysia with an EU grant.

Crown Closures Bournemouth (was Metal Box) gone to Poland with EU grant. Once employed 1,200.

M&S manufacturing gone to FE with EU loan.

Hornby Models gone. All toys and models gone from UK with patentsâ€;¦ all with EU grants.

Gillette gone to E. Europe with EU grant.

Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.

Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.

Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil foam plant will relocate to Roemond Netherlands with EU funding.

Hoover Merthyr Tydfil factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company, Candy with EU backing.

ICI integration into Holland's Akzo Nobel with EU bank loan. Within days of the merger, several UK factories were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.

Boots sold to Italian Stefano Pessina who've based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year using an EU loan for the purchase. Now issued profit warning last week.

JDS Uniphase run by two Dutchmen who bought up companies in the UK with £20 million EU 'regeneration grants', created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean up paid by the UK taxpayer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.

UK airports owned by Spanish company.

Scottish Power owned by Spanish company.

Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies (Deutschebarn).

Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by EDF (Energie de France) part owned by French Govt. using cheap Chinese steel which has catastrophically failed at other nuclear installations. EDF now says the costs will double and it will be very late if it even does come online.

Swindon once made rail locomotives and rolling stock. All transferred to Bombardier in Derby due to their losses in the aviation market will see the end railway manufacture altogether. Bombadier got a grant to keep going in Derby, but diverted it to their loss-making aviation site in Canada.

39% British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies mostly in the EU.

Mini cars are built by BMW in Holland and Austria.

Fans outrage as foreign firm Nestle shrinks Terry's Chocolate Oranges by 10% but price remains the same.

And the last is the destruction of our steel industry. We invented the process in 1856, before Henry Bressemer everything was made of cast iron or bronze/copper! British Steel's receivership loses 25,000 jobs. Makes us dependent on poor quality imports (see above Hinkley Point C) with the knock on effects to manufacturing.

LEAVE and WTO