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[sentimentrules] 22/8/2019 17:39

Hello lloyds gerbils. Expecting favours from the Fed? Looooool

PS can somebody get me Johnsons autograph

[jam2day] 22/8/2019 17:19

Ravings of lunatics

[chavitravi2] 22/8/2019 17:09

Boris will get a deal. The consequence of no deal may collapse the EU if they dont deal. Their problems will be X three ours. No way are some countries going to sit on their hands and see their GDP go further through the floor and unemployment go further through the roof. The punishment deal will backfire and they too will leave both EU and Euro to set their own levels. Spain and Italy are highly dependent on us for fruit and veg to name but two things and they are anti EU anyway and both are being bled dry by EU and Euro is unfair too them. They Will deal with us or have to deal with many. Simple really.

[bargainbob] 22/8/2019 16:49

Interesting in 2014 said they would be a hard border between Scotland and England .

Now they want no border with Ireland interesting 360 about turn.

personally no issue with a border.

[xxxxxy] 22/8/2019 16:42

Reminder of The ConsiderationWhy the Withdrawal Agreement is bad for the UKBy JOHNREDWOOD | Published: FEBRUARY 25, 2019I have been asked to spell out more details on the features of the WA other than the Irish backstop which make it a bad deal.The first point is it contradicts the Conservative Manifesto and 2017 government policy of negotiating the Withdrawal issues and the future partnership together. You must stick to this to get leverage from concessions made on Withdrawal to benefits in the future partnership. Nothing should be agreed until everything is agreed. It is why we have got a bad Withdrawal Agreement, and are being set up to get a bad future partnership as well.The second is the provision to pay them very large sums of money, stretching for many years into the future. No sensible person would sign an agreement which allows one side to send bill after bill for years after we have left, claiming we owe them money under many general heads set out in the Withdrawal Agreement. The Treasury estimate of £39bn is likely to be far too low. Some of the future liabilities stretch forward a hundred years, relating to payments to people not yet born who might come here before the end of the transition period. Paying to belong until 2020 opens up more future commitments under the 2019-20 budget, with liabilities until 2028. The settlement on the European Investment Bank is mean to the UK. Every conceivable future liability for the EU is recorded with as much liability as possible attaching to the UK under various clauses.The third is the institutional architecture for the Agreement. Until we do leave the UK faces the full panoply of existing and additional EU law enforced by the EU's own court. The UK in transition will have no veto over big new advances in EU controls, and no ability to form qualified minority blocking groups to stop an unfavourable law passing under qualified majority provisions. The EU would be at liberty to legislate in ways that harmed our economic interests and helped theirs and we would have to comply. We would even not be able to prevent the imposition of new taxes on us.Disputes over the money or over the laws fall to be resolved by a joint committee. In the event of there being no resolution, an independent Arbitration panel decides the matter. However, if at issue is the interpretation of EU law – which is likely in most cases – that is settled by the European Court of Justice who instruct the Arbitration Panel what to say! Who ever thought the UK should accept such a one sided arrangement?The fourth is the State Aids provisions and applicability of Competition law. This will give the EU the right to authorise state aids to attract business away from the UK, with the right to block us doing the same back.The fifth is the continuing influence the EU will have over our welfare and benefits system.There are many other features of this Agreement which are one sided, as it is a thorough piece of work by the EU determined to take as much of our money as possible for as long as possible, and keen to keep as much legal control over us as possible.The Agreement does not even live up to its name and billing. It is meant to just be about the past and so called withdrawal costs and issues, yet a big chunk of it including the Irish backstop, protected trade names and other issues is about the future trading arrangements and partnership. The UK negotiators should have pointed this out and insisted on dealing with all the future issues at the same time, as the government promised to do in 2016-17.

[gotnorolex] 22/8/2019 16:40

Here's what the other Irishman Wild Cat Kelly said "Don't Fence Me In"

[xxxxxy] 22/8/2019 16:23

A US Deal. Great for Lloyds.Sooner the better.LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 22/8/2019 16:22

Ann Standing 22 Aug 2019 4:18PMIn other news, great process being made towards brokering FTAs with the RoW.  Cordial talks between Johnson/Trump should keep the fast track UK/US FTA firmly on the rails.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/22/deal-south-korea-great-news-global-britain/

[careful] 22/8/2019 16:19

No i am a coward, I would not dare provoke a catholic or a prot.

But the EU. seem to mistrust the uk and its motives.

Small time smuggling is one thing, but an open boarder where a huge number of products to get into the EU. without any effective checks could, in time, could get serious.

ww2 has been a theme today.
The Maginot line was an incomplete border defence, one that could be exploited by a smart cunning enemy.

In time there could be all sorts of products crossing the border bound for the EU.
They will start to build warehouses.

[cheshire pete] 22/8/2019 16:19

No deal better than a bad deal.

[xxxxxy] 22/8/2019 16:16

Let's get OUT of Gulag EUSSR.LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 22/8/2019 16:14

CarefulUriah Heep

[minerve 2] 22/8/2019 16:14

Only clunks want No Deal.

[minerve 2] 22/8/2019 16:13

"Parliament would ultimately respect the result of the referendum"

That isn't No Deal.

[xxxxxy] 22/8/2019 16:11

Mr President 22 Aug 2019 8:40AMNot only is the UK front of the queue for a trade deal with its friends in the US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, but France will rapidly find it's going to find other places to sell its lamentable products.But that's all at risk if any part of the WA sees the light of day again.  Just don't, Boris.  Just Don't. 

[cheshire pete] 22/8/2019 16:10

"it seems obvious that they would not let something as trivial as the Irish border stop a deal".

Oh yeah.....since when did it become obvious then careful. The backstop being non-negotiable has been the EU mantra for ages and hardly trivial therefore.

Begs the question what else you will class as 'seems obvious' once it has happened lol.

How about it 'seems obvious' that Parliament would ultimately respect the result of the referendum (even though they've spent 3 years trying to thwart it).

[minerve 2] 22/8/2019 15:55

Do you want to repeat that to an Irish Provo?

LOL

[minerve 2] 22/8/2019 15:54

"trivial as the Irish border"

Eh?

[optomistic] 22/8/2019 15:53

I can join you in that hope likeawalrus.

[careful] 22/8/2019 15:49

All this grandstanding.
it seems obvious that they would not let something as trivial as the Irish border stop a deal.

It will happen and parliament will vote it through.

[maxk] 22/8/2019 15:45

Merkel tipped the wink to Macron..

[maxk] 22/8/2019 15:43

Brexit latest news: Major boost for Boris Johnson as Emmanuel Macron says Withdrawal Agreement can be amended


Christopher Hope, chief political correspondent Asa Bennett Danielle Sheridan, political correspondent
22 AUGUST 2019 • 3:30PM


French President Emmanuel Macron has said for the first time that the Withdrawal Agreement can be amended to allow the UK to leave the European Union with a deal.

Mr Johnson was buoyed on Wednesday after comments by German Chancellor Angela Merkel indicated that European leaders...




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