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[jacko07] 05/12/2018 17:53

Brussels is a criminal empire.

[alphorn] 05/12/2018 17:48

"Democracy and Freedom and these are priceless".

When I worked in Southern Africa that is exactly word for word what was said in Southern Rhodesia - then they got Mugabe.

[cm44] 05/12/2018 17:37

If there is to be another referendum would the 2016 result have to be annulled by an act or vote in parliament for a new one to proceed?

[ak47high] 05/12/2018 17:37

When this deal gets voted down next week it gives May the perfect opportunity to give the people the chance to decide our future. If it is the only deal on the table and those in charge can’t agree on the final outcome, then what else can be done?

[k38] 05/12/2018 17:36

In a second referendum with choice on this deal or not deal people will vote no deal,but that's not the point. People already vote for leaving EU. So there is no point of a second referendum but the government expect and respect people's voice. No one is afraid of a second referendum!

[careful] 05/12/2018 17:30

Electing your leaders is democracy.
Not a referendum.
Referendum are temporary popularity votes, not legally binding.

Some of you think that the votes on Strictly Come Dancing, Bake off , X factor are democracy.

Dictators love referenda, history proves that.
We shall have one more vote, and that will be the end to it.
You are scared of a second vote, but I am too.

[k38] 05/12/2018 17:20

Nigel Evans still speaking on Parliament .. listen That's not a choice but disrespect of democracy, only dictators do so.

[k38] 05/12/2018 17:18

Nigel Evans just make a great speech in Parliament.

[prenvest] 05/12/2018 17:16

k38 if another vote there will be three choices.

[polar fox] 05/12/2018 17:15

For info:

The Scottish Parliament has rejected the UK government's draft Brexit deal, with 92 MSPs backing the motion and 29 against.

SNP, Labour, Green and Lib Dem members at Holyrood all backed a jointly penned motion rejecting the proposals, as well as the prospect of leaving without any deal.

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[k38] 05/12/2018 17:06

Asking voters to vote again.. 'is this the deal you want OR going back, (stay) to the deal we had before'Is like you asking in what way you want to end your life, by hanging or by shooting you.This is not a choice but also is a deliberately cheating and dishonestly to people of UK

[cannyshoveyergrannyoffthebus] 05/12/2018 17:03

k38 and most in Scotland are looking forward to it.

[poikka] 05/12/2018 17:00

As for Javid saying that they're working on making the backstop acceptable, please!

The EU will not allow us to have an acceptable (to us) agreement, unless they are forced to, or we just do what we want, as we should have from the start.

Is May still PM? I haven't checked for 10 minutes.

[polar fox] 05/12/2018 16:38

This quote may help explain why LLOY and RBS are better today:

"After a string of humiliating parliamentary defeats for May the day before cast new doubt over her ability to get a deal approved, U.S. investment bank J.P. Morgan said the chances of Britain calling off Brexit altogether had increased."

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What I find interesting, is the size of the move up today - 2.69p bottom to top. That's 54.29 up to 56.98 at the high. 56.20 close. I've looked back on the chart and it's a year since we last saw a daily move up of this size. As I posted earlier, worth watching to see whether it develops to the upside, or not. Of course, the Brexit risk next week remains huge.

[ladeside] 05/12/2018 16:37

On the contrary k38, I think EVERYONE realises that.

[k38] 05/12/2018 16:31

Remainers don't realise with this deal UKis worse off than previous deal already had. The cost is so high for having No say on decisions and you pay for it. The risk of breakup UK is real. On top of all this you trap forever in the mercy of the bureaucrats in Brussels.

[ladeside] 05/12/2018 16:15

jacko, are you having a laugh ?

We are the most corrupt country in the western world and the only reason offices in London haven't been raided, is because our authorities bury this sort of thing as we can't be seen to be ruffling the feathers of our wealthy masters.........

[jacko07] 05/12/2018 16:07

Out, the sooner the better. The Europe Club is finished, a failed experiment, the Euro will die!

Nobody is saying much about the raid on Deutsche Bank two days ago by the German authorities. It is serious and it involves billions of Euros that have been illegally laundered.

This also coincides with yesterday's news of the Robert Mueller investigation into Russia's involvment with the US election. Trump's finances are under investigation by the FBI, it involves Trump's dealing with Deutsche.

Trump is up to his neck in shady deals including the alleged promise to Putin of a $50 million penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow. Trump's son in law and other members of his family are also allegedly involved. Trump's dealings with Saudi also under investgation.

This is big stuff, especially the German Russia link. The authorities do not raid banks unless something monumental has occurred. The sell off in Wall St yesterday was down to Trump's false statement that a deal with China was imminent.

IMO Trump's days are numbered and you can forget about Brexit being the catalyst. It is going to get very bumpy, here, Europe and the US. Great buying opportunities will be had for those who look forward to a post Trump and post Brexit world. Post Putin, Merkel and Macron would be a bonus.

[ladeside] 05/12/2018 15:51

We need to rid ourselves of the oppressor and we need to take our country back.

"Land of Hope & Glory" la la la, lalala................