Iqe Share Discussion Threads

[borg45] 29/5/2018 13:09

Can't believe these are up today !!!

[jimboyce] 29/5/2018 12:56

Hope so, but I have heard this all before. Without news to drive this, I am afraid that the price will see saw.

[potential] 29/5/2018 12:28

Some nice buying going on today can see it heading back to 130 very soon ...

[solderflux] 29/5/2018 12:26

@Bukko - now you tell me!

At the age of marrying, I was only thinking of one thing - and you know what I am referring to.😁

What good parenting school do you recommend?

[picobird] 29/5/2018 12:11

Just a recap that APPL are using 3D sensing on all iPhones re following news for 2019.

[bukko] 29/5/2018 11:57

Solderflux

Perhaps you should consider the One-Plus 6 and a course in parenting next time.:-)

User experience close to i Phone at half the cost. And unlike Apple they don't seem to charge same no. of £ as $ price but concede the benefit of £ exchange rate v $ conversion.

Of relevance here is the top model has face recognition unlocking (and a smaller notch).

[luxaeterna1] 29/5/2018 11:52

Kids want iPhones for the same reason 90s kids wanted Nike Air Maxes for £200.

They have no idea why they like it - but they've seen enough marketing hype that they want part of the ecosystem.

Personally, I find Apple an over-expensive solution with mostly closed-sourced capitalist ideals. In my last engineering department, perhaps 1 of 40 engineers had an iPhone because they liked Android and hated wasting money. However in the altermative reality of the marketing department.. they had totally sold into the Apple PR dream and couldn't understand why anybody would chose any other product. Every single marketing person had an iPhone "just cause, Apple duh".

[solderflux] 29/5/2018 10:13

Bought IPhone 8 for Daughter’s birthday over the weekend. Anyone who questions whether IPhone is still No.1, they should talk to their kids. Cost me a fortune though!

[mad foetus] 29/5/2018 10:07

Ready to RUMBLE!!!

[sf5] 29/5/2018 09:53

This suggests 2019 iphones will use stereoscopic depth-sensing on the rear cameras, not time-of-flight laser sensing, which presumably remains on the front cameras
But it's all rumour at this stage.

[paradores] 29/5/2018 09:51

Coiled spring..? Interesting technical picture.

[adejuk] 29/5/2018 09:11

one week to go and we are still falling on mushroom mgmt.

[panic investor] 28/5/2018 20:04

Works the same way when longing a stock ie spread betting

[bbonsall] 28/5/2018 15:45

The part of shorting that is manipulative is that the shorters sell what they do not actually own. If I think the share price might go down I can sell some of my holding to buy back at a lower price later. I am selling what I already own which is acceptable.

[panic investor] 28/5/2018 12:31

All markets are manipulated - look up washes on forex market - they happen on all markets including stocks

[solderflux] 28/5/2018 12:17

Just to add to Dr Smith, one of the justification for shorting is that “they bet on price will fall”. This would be considered no more than a bet so nothing wrong with that. The problem is “THEY MAKE THE PRICE GO DOWN” so it’s no longer a bet in my view as such.

[dr_smith] 28/5/2018 10:11

rhomboid.
I believe it uses not a free market model but a devious mechanism, I am happy with selling short in an open market, it is the whole concept of using assets you don't own to distort and manipulate a market. A market ceases to be such if there are different rules for different players.

[belt n braces] 28/5/2018 09:28

Regarding all the wailing and nashing of teeth in relation to the bad boy shorters, is there any thought put into why this share has been picked for the shorter treatement? The shorters must have a reason, with a simple random pick likely not their main strategy?

However, if the shorters are wrong, this is of great benefit to long term holders who accumulate via a drip feed. It is only gambling short term punters that need to be worried about the shorters, provided of course the shorters have actually got this wrong. If the shorters have got it right, both long term and short term holders need to be worried.

Just my viewpoint (and by the way I suspect the shorters are right).

[rhomboid] 27/5/2018 20:02

Dr_Smith

Why are you so anti shorting? It’s simply the opposite of being Long & equally valid imho

Over the years shorters have been the canary in many a fraudulent/financially unviable coal mine (Globo/Carillion) & their presence is a great prompt for holders to reconsider their understanding of their investment ..if you or I have done our research then our patience & the weaker understanding of other less diligent holders creates an attractive entry or top up point. As a bonus it offers a modest rental stream for long term holders prepared to lend their stock but when the company delivers ..as I believe it will..it provides a huge short squeeze that you may yet wish to trade when it happens(Ocado)

It’s all water off a ducks back to me..unless they break the law in which case other remedies exist.

I’m looking forward to IQE’s future ..the rest is just noise

[dr_smith] 27/5/2018 18:52

It's Sunday night and this is depressing..so I'm going off at a tangent:

Daves wikipedia
"rehypothecation"
- A flowery word used by folks supposedly looking after other peoples money but actually using it to steal money and pretend it is legitimate.

"Scouse kiss" - A remedy for rehypothecation.

Terry Colliers law of the street (for oldies):
Do unto others as you would have done unto you, but do it first!

[solderflux] 27/5/2018 18:25

Out of the 72m shorted shares ( based on 8.47%) half of them are loaned out by T Rowe Price as stated in the last RNS so we can’t blame brokers for that. I firmly believe T Rowe Price have hijacked the share price to increase their holding by scaring the PIs by crashing the price, and with so many shares at disposal, they are in total control.

I have asked the FCA to look into this and am still waiting to hear back from them.

If they cannot find anything wrong, we should close our prisons.

[thecrunk] 27/5/2018 18:23

Guys. What you are talking about is termed rehypothecation.

After MFGlobal Debacle rehpothecation is removed from prime broker agreements.

So they can't lend them out without your knowledge.

[fingers xxd] 27/5/2018 16:50

Dr_Smith,I just found this relating to borrowing stock for shorting .."The interest and fees that the broker charges those who borrow stock accrue to the broker, not to the person who actually owns the stock. In fact, the stock's owner will probably never know that his shares were loaned out"

[dr_smith] 27/5/2018 15:02

Ditto.
Thank-you to eenyweeny for the explantion, but haven't seen a response to reservations I share Bramthefrog and others as to what happens if/when share price increases from say 1.30 "rented" to 1.40 or 1.50.

Group A the long term holders don't get the benefit of the increase, so don't see that it is symbiotic, if anything it is damaging to Group A.

Further..I wonder if Group A own them themselves. If they hold them as agent/nominee etc for client/pension and like, they may be making a turn on assets that are not legally their own and any capital loss passed on to underlying client/pension.

I think we all accept that shorting is taking place, but we only seem to have conjecture as to how shorts are closed.
It is likely complex, or exploiting a loop hole, like many cons.
IMO shorting is a con, but happens to be accepted as legal, in UK, AT THE MOMENT.

Decades ago working for a bank, I was not comfortable with the implied default of PPI for loans and, long story short, did right thing for customer.
Point is I knew PPI was a scam then and proved right decades later.
I feel same about shorting..but have less confidence moral compass within regulatory bodies will assist.

Back to the plot..
How do shorters close, with/without assistance of MM's, during hours, after hours, non-market private transfer??