IQE Share Price (IQE)

Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
IQE LSE:IQE London Ordinary Share GB0009619924 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.25p -0.19% 129.75p 129.50p 129.75p 131.50p 122.00p 130.00p 12,675,067 14:15:18
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Technology Hardware & Equipment 132.7 19.0 2.9 45.2 887.65
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17/10/2017
09:20		IQE Daily Update: IQE is listed in the Technology Hardware & Equipment sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker IQE. The last closing price for IQE was 130p.
IQE has a 4 week average price of 105.75p and a 12 week average price of 102.75p.
The 1 year high share price is 160p while the 1 year low share price is currently 29p.
There are currently 684,120,852 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 8,403,698 shares. The market capitalisation of IQE is £887,646,805.47.
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29/9/2017
13:41		richardc77: The more I look at IQE and the market they are providing for, the more I like it over the next 12-24 months. I’m not convinced it will get back to sub 110p but if it does then I’m happy to buy more again. I have plenty of income earners and a few speculative punts in my portfolio but nothing that has the potential for less risk and high returns like IQE. If the shorts make some money on IQE in the short term, that’s great, we all want to make money. However they will have no bearing on where IQE share price will be in the future should they “execute”;.
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13/9/2017
07:48		jonny33: So underwhelmed would appear to be the response to the Apple launch and Apples stock was/is down. Whilst IQE is in no way wedded to Apple, it's share price appears to have grown on speculation about the new launch, therefore what does this mean for the IQE share price this morning and the next few days/weeks. It feels like it might pull back until we get news from IQE on it's business performance?
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05/9/2017
15:41		referencepoint: IQE share price action has all been a bit much for some people today, so follow attached link for a bit of light relief. hTtps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRk0FfaQi0 Try to stay focused on where the price might be in 5-10 years time and go to bed tonight with a big smile on your face.
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05/9/2017
00:15		zaina003: Features Pricing Reviews Discuss Help Signup Login Home/Discussion/IQE,Technology, IQE Plc - Now a strong target for Intel ? Sunday, Feb 09 2014 by Sector Investor 14 comments 5 IQE (LON:IQE) ........is a leading global supplier of advanced semiconductor wafer products and services to the semiconductor industry. Its products are found in many leading edge applications,including mobile handsets, wireless infrastructure,optical communications and storage,thermal imaging, medical products,high efficiency concentrator photovoltaic (CPV) solar cells. The company has been prudently managed and in recent years has made some careful but clever acquisitions that has strengthened both the balance sheet and also its market position.The company,s most recent financial statements show that some of those decisions made a few years back are now starting to pay off even in a difficult market,and this has lead to a steady rise in revenues and earnings per share. Dr Andrew Nelson - IQE President and Ceo In 2011 it was rumoured and later confirmed that Intel Corporation were considering a buyout of IQE with offers around £500m ,at the time it would have been a bold move by Intel given IQE,s earnings and debt position in 2011.However since that time the fortunes of both companies have actually reversed with Intel struggling to fend off its competitors and maintain its earning power,and IQE on the other hand growing its key and core business at a healthy level. In a recent interview,new Intel CEO Brian Krzanich indicated that the corporation are now focused on building its exposure in the mobile & tablet chips market,and potentially in to the new area of wearable devices.It would be astonishing if Intel were not looking at the likes of IQE again for a potential buyout,because as has been proved in the last few years,the reliance by Intel on the PC Chips market and the unwillingness of the corporations former management to follow the trend of the mobile market has cost them dearly.It could be argued that had Intel actually taken over IQE back in 2011 the corporations performance would now be looking somewhat more positive. So in conclusion a takeover of IQE by Intel now looks compelling and makes sound business sense. hxxp://www.iqep.com/ Filed Under: Technology, Telecoms, Industrials, Disclaimer: As per our Terms of Use, Stockopedia is a financial news & data site, discussion forum and content aggregator. Our site should be used for educational & informational purposes only. We do not provide investment advice, recommendations or views as to whether an investment or strategy is suited to the investment needs of a specific individual. You should make your own decisions and seek independent professional advice before doing so. The author may own shares in any companies discussed, all opinions are his/her own & are general/impersonal. Remember: Shares can go down as well as up. Past performance is not a guide to future performance & investors may not get back the amount invested. Do you like this Post? Yes No 5 thumbs up 0 thumbs down Share this post with friends IQE plc is a United Kingdom-based holding company. The Company is engaged in the research, development and provision of engineering consultancy services to the compound semiconductor industry. The Company's segments more » LSE Price 138p Change -0.5% Mkt Cap (£m) 949.2 P/E (fwd) 38.0 Yield (fwd) n/a StockRank™ Analyze LON:IQE's Stock Report » IQE (LON:IQE LON:IQE) 1d 1w 1m 6m 1y 5y Is IQE fundamentally strong or weak? Find out More » 14 Posts on this Thread show/hide all oldnotbold 10th Feb '14 1 of 14 1 Dear Paul, irrespective of the potential takeover, the IQE story seems interesting. It looks cheap (13x 2013 earnings, 9x 2014), and is strongly cash generative, paying down debt in H2 according to the trading statement, as well as paying off £14mn of deferred payments. Currently the company has a poor Altman-Z score of 1.77, but as the debt comes down it stops being a concern. (It would be very interesting to screen the performance of companies whose Altman-Z score move out of the danger zone). Its technology is unique, and gives it access to a wide range of rapidly growing applications in solar and photonics. Revenue growth could be too low if the Philips deal bears fruit. As to margins, the Kopin Wireless acquisition announced in January 2013 is meant to generate significant cost savings of £7mn (although this is unclear when?). Overall, it seems to have an attractive combination of a decent existing business, strong potential, an improving balance sheet, and a low valuation. The fact that no-one responded to your post also shows that it is off the radar for most investors. | Link | Share DJLJ23 12th Feb '14 2 of 14 I like IQE on the fundementals, but looking around i find that a Number of Blackstone companies have been building up a short position. source Castalain Capital Fund manager % short Change Date changed/created BlackRock Advisors (UK) Limited 0.57% ? -0.13% 2013-10-16 BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A 1.20% ? 0.10% 2014-02-05 BlackRock Investment Management (UK) Limited 2.29% ? 0.12% 2014-02-07 Ennismore Fund Management Limited 1.04% ? 0.07% 2013-10-30 in total about 5%, they seem to have been building this for at least ayear So i wonder what they are seeing, but we are not? | Link | Share Jon1958 18th Feb '14 3 of 14 I have spotted this short as well and it has built further recently as the shares continue to drift lower. Given the bullish nature of the recent trading statement have decided to hold for the full results. Time will tell | Link | Share SevenPillars 18th Feb '14 4 of 14 I seem to recall that about a year ago there was a story around IQE that US giant Qualcom was looking to get into its market. Not sure if the shorts jumped on board from there, but ever since then there seems to have been heavy short selling of this company, especially after any upward move. Not sure what became of the Qualcom "rumour", but IQE seems to have continued to do reasonably well, but never seems to join in the momentum party that other techs in the smaller companies sector have been on in the last few years. Most brokers seem to be giving this company a much higher rating, but it never takes off. It might look like manipulation and market makers driving down the price and up when it suits them, but it's difficult to figure out what is going on here. I suspect that if there was any real takeover talk this would probably fly and the shorts would have to run for cover. | Link | Share Sector Investor 23rd Feb '14 5 of 14 In my opinion there are at least two big american corporations that would be very keen to purchase IQE,and in the case of Intel as i set out in the article i think the comments of their new Ceo since taking the helm is a real seed change of focus.I think Intel are so far behind in the tablet and wireless arena that an obvious option would be for them to buy their way in to a position where at least they can compete. Recent trading statements do show IQE as a strong market participant now and they have a future pipeline that should see this success build.The company must be a strong takeover target now if not in the past. | Link | Share bsharman 27th Mar '14 6 of 14 I would be interested to hear what you all thought about the results yesterday and subsequent share price decline. The market seems to hate this one... | Link | Share fek47 29th Mar '14 7 of 14 I agree it's puzzling. Will be interesting to see what Simon Thompson has to say in his forthcoming article on IQE (LON:IQE) on Monday. I for one will certainly be attending their AGM in May to see if I can get under the skin of what deep-seated problem may exist that the shorters know about that we don't... | Link | Share djpreston 31st Mar '14 8 of 14 fek Youre not the only one who is somewhat bemused bythe reaction to a perfectly good set fo figures. Not as if the company is standing still has any real red flags financially nor is it on a gangbuster type rating. Very odd. Fund Management: European Wealth | Link | Share | 1 reply SevenPillars 31st Mar '14 9 of 14 For some time BlackRock have had a short position on the company. Total short positions in the company are almost 6% of the stock. This is probably more than enough to manipulate the price given how many trades may happen on an average day. You have to assume that BlackRock are probably gambling on it going bust at some stage, as there has been little other fundamental news in the last year that would give them the ammunition to keep the price down. The Qualcom story from a year ago is the only one that has emerged to suggest potential major competition and thus far it seems to have been a damp sqib. It would be interesting to know why BlackRock hold their position, but it will probably take either a takeover, a massive news story or some blow you away results and increase in profits from IQE to make them run for cover. However, it would seem that regardless of what the company does at the moment the share price seems to fall, so yes it is a strange one, other than a 6% short position which gives the likes of BlackRock a lot of firepower to keep the share price down. They've been successful, bulls have stayed away. | Link | Share cig 31st Mar '14 10 of 14 In reply to djpreston, post #8 It's hard to fathom what their competitive position is like though. In this business you can easily be left behind in the next process iteration and then only have a quickly depreciating asset going to zero. If it was the case, the current rating would be fine (you don't want to pay full price for an end of life business). | Link | Share DJLJ23 31st Mar '14 11 of 14 We seem to be concentrating on blackrocks short position, but approx 50% of shares are held by other institutions (according to iqe website, for last year), and i can see no rns suggesting they have reduced their holdings. To me it would appear that its not only the pi who is not seeing what blackrock sees. Significant holdings below from IQE site (aug 13). If any body has access to more accurate info, please advice AXA Framlington Investment Management 68,278,798 10.57% T Rowe Price Inc 53,300,625 8.25% Barclays Stock Brokers Limited 32,998,133 5.11% Four Capital Partners 32,889,599 5.09% Herald Investment Management Limited 29,733,393 4.60% Nelson A W Dr 29,325,132 4.54% Hargreaves Lansdown 25,797,790 3.99% M&G Investment Management 24,378,065 3.77% TD Direct Investing 23,368,141 3.62% Todays annocement ref iqe "has delivered the first 200mm (8”) GaN on Silicon wafers into the Singapore-MIT Low Energy Electronic Systems (SMART-LEES) program"" should be good in the long term if it can be demonstrated that iqe technology can be built on updated current production lines. | Link | Share | 1 reply bsharman 31st Mar '14 12 of 14 In reply to DJLJ23, post #11 T Rowe have recently increased to over 13%... | Link | Share djpreston 31st Mar '14 13 of 14 AS I say, its an odd one, especially with T Rowe (who I have a lot of time for) increasing to 13%. Thats a pretty big blue chip list of backers in terms of instos and only a 6% short with BR? It just makes no sense. Then again, a nice bounce today. Most bizarre. Fund Management: European Wealth | Link | Share DanielRudd 18th Sep '15 14 of 14 This has just popped up on the stock ranks radar. Anyone have an opinion on this company? | Link | Share (Show Text Editor) What's your view on this thread? Log In To Comment Now You can track all @StockoChat comments via Twitter Are IQE's fundamentals sound as an investment? 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29/8/2017
13:20		galatea99: Interactive Investor Stockwatch article published today, site does not allow link to be posted: Title says it all: Stockwatch: A tuck-away AIM growth play Is AIM-listed IQE (IQE) a prime example of bubble values in particular sectors of the market? From a 16p low a year ago the stock has seen a parabolic rise to 148p, currently 140p - capitalising IQE at about £950 million or 7 times 2016 sales. Curiously, it was a glamour stock in the 1999-2000 tech-stock boom that soared and crashed. Nowadays, though, its semiconductor wafers have more substantive prospects. The photonics side in particular is enjoying double-digit growth and investors are enticed by management-talk of a "massive ramp-up" to serve "the internet of things", where everyday devices get connected online. IQE is therefore poised to supplant dependability on the smartphone market via its wireless side that contributed 75% of 2015 sales and 65% of profit and that checked growth in 2016 (see table). This potentially catapults its stock into a superior league of growth plays. Dissonance in approaches to underlying value The dilemma can be summarised as follows. If IQE is to any extent becoming "the next ARM Holdings" then treat the stock as a tuck-away. In 1999-2000, microchip developer ARM entertained bubble values of 100 times expected earnings and higher, and did plunge with the spring 2000 bust. For years thereafter, it remained volatile and attracted periodic shorting. ARM did, however, boast very strong margins and pretty much the strongest long-term financial record of any British company; such that ultimately a Japanese acquirer paid a whopping exit price/earnings (PE) multiple for that, as well as for ARM's strong positioning for "the internet of things". If you step back from IQE's narrative to focus coldly on its numbers, the five-year record and forecasts are nothing - as yet - to get over-excited about. A forward P/E in the order of 40 times with no dividend record as yet, is rich. See from the table how cash flow is respectable versus earnings, if largely soaked up by capital expenditure. Whereas I recall ARM's cash flow being so strong its dividend was quite material, even at high share prices. Its operating margins were nearer 40%, versus IQE in the late teens to 20%. So, as yet, sceptics may scoff at the suggestion IQE is becoming the London market's successor to ARM. Ultimately, the prospect is speculative - what extent photonics revenues/profits take off - thus a diversified portfolio can justify exposure. A compromise between these positions (at least for long-term holders) is to lock in some gains along the way. Directors crystallise profits, short positions rise Likewise, you have to wrestle conflicting interpretations of directors' sales. There's a definite pattern to preserve gains from 68p upwards and, while they continue with substantial equity, it was largely acquired at much lower prices (such as before IQE floated) or via share bonuses. Also, the company's broker would have placed an extent of stock with institutions but not enabled directors to sell out. Thus, even if the directors consider IQE's market rating daft, the amounts sold represent the maximum the market will countenance. In mid-May, the finance director and operations director each sold 1.9 million shares averaging 68.3p, continuing to own just over 1.5 million and 2.4 million shares respectively. Then in late-July, the chief executive sold a total of 5.8 million shares averaging 106p per share, continuing to own 28.5 million shares, and the chairman sold 1 million shares averaging 105.1p, being left with 2.2 million. As to short trading positions, on 18 August Ennismore Fund Management raised its exposure by 0.11% to 1.54% and on 21 August Marshall Wace edged up 0.03% to 1.72%. Certainly, on a chart basis, the stock looks overbought in the near term, but it's quite a challenging short: still a growth company, hence over-valuation can persist for longer. Classic short-selling focuses on weak industries where companies are stretched in some way, e.g. debt, over-expansion and/or aggressive accounting. At the end of 2016, IQE had £39.5 million leverage (net debt plus deferred consideration), which accounted for £1.6 million finance costs versus £20.7 million operating profit; thus containable. IQE - financial summary year ended 31 Dec Consensus estimates 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Turnover (£ million) 88.0 127 112 114 133 IFRS3 pre-tax profit (£m) 6.1 5.2 5.2 19.4 19.0 Normalised pre-tax profit (£m) 6.7 11.8 21.6 22.0 19.5 23.2 26.3 Operating margin (%) 8.3 10.5 20.6 20.6 15.8 IFRS3 earnings/share (p) 1.1 0.9 0.2 2.9 2.7 Normalised earnings/share (p) 1.2 1.9 2.7 3.3 2.8 3.3 3.7 Earnings per share growth (%) -20.7 57.1 42.8 23.2 -15.8 18.9 12.1 Tax rate (%) -8.2 -18.0 61.9 -2.9 -2.1 Price/earnings multiple (x) 50.4 42.3 37.8 Historic annual average P/E (x) 22.6 11.1 8.4 7.0 23.9 Cash flow/share (p) 0.8 1.6 2.3 2.9 3.0 Capex/share (p) 2.8 1.6 1.5 1.5 2.8 Net tangible assets per share (p) 6.1 5.4 5.6 8.7 12.9 Source: Company REFS Share price rise has tracked guidance in updates I drew attention in July 2016 at 23p after a bullish trading update cited H1 2016 revenues at least 15% up, helped by diversification of revenues and photonics expected to show double-digit growth amid widening opportunities in consumer products, fibre-optic communications, data centres and industrial processes. The September 2016 results then showed excellent progress, with operating profit up 61% on revenue up 18%, pre-tax profit up 71%, earnings per share (EPS) up 62% and operational cash flow up 176% - hence my updating to suggest accumulating the stock ahead of a December trading statement. Expectations were guided higher still, hence my updating again to suggest tucking the stock away - then 38p. I didn't, however expect the stock to multiply nearly four-fold in six months, and there's an aspect of ramping up the stock as well as prospects. The last update on 20 July proclaimed: "The start of the mass-market ramp for VCSEL wafers... an inflection point in the commercialisation of this technology... multiple, multi-year contracts for this VCSEL ramp which reflects its strong competitive advantages... increased investment during H1 2017... to position the group for the expected ramp up of growth in H2 2017." Tax losses provide a modest earnings enhancement Note from the table how IQE's tax rate is substantially negative, also the 2016 results showed a £408,000 tax credit following £773,000 in 2015. The results don't go into detail, but when previously researching IQE I came across "£139 million accumulated tax losses", likely relating to past investment and operating losses. This may need treating with a pinch of salt because accounting estimates can differ from what HMRC agrees. But it's fair to say IQE enjoys a substantial earnings shelter, hence its PE rating will be higher as a result; quite whether that helps justify a forward multiple into the forties. From where will any trigger for correction come? Edgy shareholders can take comfort it appears less likely IQE will repeat its habit of profit warnings in the medium term. The macro context remains a risk but, as I explained in a last review, central banks are likely to keep exploring means of stimulus and these will spill over to support equities even if profit warnings do materialise. The chief near-term risk, therefore, is sentiment: momentum traders have latched onto IQE as a stock in vogue. So, if the 5 September interims add nothing new, mind this could trigger further profit-taking. Further upward guidance on the numbers is possible if probably more likely by way of narrative, to try and keep speculators happy. So, if you adhere to investment principles, where capital protection is your priority and a margin of safety is wise, then follow the directors' example. This article is for information and discussion purposes only and does not form a recommendation to invest or otherwise. The value of an investment may fall. The investments referred to in this article may not be suitable for all investors, and if in doubt, an investor should seek advice from a qualified investment adviser.
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25/8/2017
16:09		galatea99: Article from "The Share Centre": " IQE, the Welsh company that is preparing for a world after Moore’s Law Back Michael Baxter IQE, the Welsh company that is preparing for a world after Moore’s Law Written by: Michael Baxter on August 24th 2017 Category: Thought for the day The share price is up five-fold in the last 12-months, why is IQE proving such a hit with investors? circuit board The back drop IQE has been around for a while, its first manufacturing operation was established in 1988 in Cardiff. After launching a US facility, the company was floated in 1999. And soon after IPO, shares soared and then crashed. If you had backed the company on day one, then let me relay my commiserations. Shares are still languishing at less than a third of the IPO price, and around a sixth of the all the time high. But then the all-time high price was set in the year 2000, it then felt the force of the dotcom crash. If you had bought shares after the crash, in December 2002, let me send my congratulations. Shares are up almost 35-fold since then. Investing in companies after the share price has crashed is risky, but as the tale of IQE demonstrates, it can pay-off handsomely. What it does But IQE is very good at something that until quite recently not many people cared about. It is very good at compound semiconductor wafers – indeed it has an 80 per cent share of the market. Compound semiconductor wafers are semiconductors made of various materials, including graphene and are quite different from the traditional silicon based integrated circuits. And this technology is important for more than one reason. The end of Moore’s law Moore’s Law is not really a law at all, it is a description and a prediction. It was defined by Gordon Moore, co-founder of Intel, in 1965 who said that the number of transistors on an integrated circuit would double ever two years. The idea has been tweaked since then, but these days it is said to mean that computers double in speed every 18 months to two years. But for some time, it has become clear that Moore’ Law is not what it used to be, we are simply approaching the limit to how much smaller we can go, without over-heating. Moore’s Law is not dead, yet, but it seems to be dying. But you know what they say when a monarch dies. The King is dead, long live the King – or Queen. Silicon Integrated circuits are being replaced by new types of circuits. It is not so much Moore’s Law that is dying, but silicon integrated circuits that are dying. Of course, compound semiconductor wafers are not the only option in the post Moore’s Law/silicon integrated circuit world. There is the option for specialist chips sets, and beyond that quantum computers. But compound semiconductor wafers are very much of the moment and maybe will remain so for many years. For as long as computers were doubling in speed every two years, few people cared about alternatives to silicon. But it is not like that now. Finding ways to prolong Moore’ Law is one of the most important challenges of the moment. And for companies that can play a key role, the rewards could be enormous. All of sudden, IQE’s specialisation is in high demand. iphone IoT, VR and AR But there is more to it than that. As the Internet of things gains pace, as virtual and augmented reality come into their own, demand for chips that are fit for this new, very high-tech purpose soars. A recent surge in the IQE share price followed rumours that Apple was interested in its technology for the new iPhone. We may know for sure next month when the new product is released. But if shares in IQE do not rise within moments of a confirmation of a deal with Apple, it will be a surprise." hxxps://www.share.com/blog/2017/august/iqe-the-welsh-company-that-is-preparing-for-a-world-after-moores-law/ Yes, I know, he talks of "a deal with Apple" and it won't be a direct deal with Apple! But his meaning is very clear.
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12/8/2017
10:33		grabster: I shall not be surprised (delighted, but not surprised) if the IQE share price exceeds 190p before the end of September 2017 - more than 45% higher than now in about 7 weeks.
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04/8/2017
08:12		richardc77: How long before the IQE share price is ahead of IMG's? Funny old world ;)
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26/7/2017
20:05		tangler42: Would be interested to here peoples thoughts on why ennismore and another have recently increased/opened a short position against IQE. Obviously to make money! Possible reasons might include 1. They expect share price to drop. 2. They hope to force share price to drop. 3. They are being paid to achieve 1 and 2 by a third oarty perhaps intersted in building a position at a lower share price. I find this increase very confusing and is completely at odds with IQE's well reported prospects and related share price. What a fair share price is based on those prospects i do not know. I am a long term holder who averaged down his share price to 23p after buying after intel rumours many years ago. Consequently i now have a very significant (for me) holding so i have a vested interest in share price remaing at or increasing above current share price. Anyhow would value other peoples thoughts. Thanks.
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28/4/2017
12:57		monkeywench1: Yump I am happy to review IQE share price in a year from now. That is all the validation I need. The problem is that if the share price is higher ( which i strongly suspect it will be ) you will be even more bitter. Move on chap.
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