Intu Properties Share Discussion Threads

[greg2019] 02/5/2020 04:46

And also I read news this morning , Simon mall of America will open next week.

Shopping centers are not restaurants, similar with supermarkets but better, I will predict , all shopping centers will open in 3 weeks.


So buy now

[greg2019] 02/5/2020 04:38

All shareholders will ask the board to sell units to renters at a higher price at annual shareholders meeting,all shareholders want their money back, selling unit to renters, basic on market demand, intu properties can get 10 billion pounds to 13 billion pounds cash, minus all debt and bond, shareholders can receive 382 -574.02 pence per share, now only 5 pence per share why don't buy?

Therefore I will predict a taken over at no less than 2.5 billion pounds (184.5 pence per share) is a must.

Buy now 5 pence per share to 184.5 pence per share in 26 days.

[greg2019] 02/5/2020 04:26

Your comments are completely wrong, as renters signed a contract on average for 7-10 years, this is the condition, 7-10 years rent cost can buy the unit, after 10 year no rent cost.

Secondly, renters already invest lots on decoration, 70% of shops are looking for lifelong business, not short term.

Why don't buy?

Only silly people don't buy, intu didn't sell , how do you know, renters don't buy?

So dears, buy now, I will buy extra 5000 shares next week, if taken over price less than 184.5 pence per share, there are a high chance being investigated, I will predict, no less than 2.5 billion pounds being taken over before or at annual shareholders meeting, otherwise, shareholders are getting crazy, 98.5% drop in one year, book value 147 (true book value is 382 pence per share to 574.02 pence per share).

[konradpuss] 01/5/2020 21:46

Greg, come on now, please get some help.

The company is bust. It's the living dead.

Move on.

[williamcooper104] 01/5/2020 21:40

Me thinks their personal houses aren't quite worth £4.5bn This was a cert to go bust prior to CV - only question was when not if

[zcaprd7] 01/5/2020 21:31

Even on filtered, he's messed up this thread, yes, we get your idea, please move along now...

[greg2019] 01/5/2020 19:47

I bought intu 17500 shares, book value is 382 -574.02 pence per share, how can drop to nothing.

If you bought a house 450,000,;are you going to sell at 5000 pounds, joking .

[edinandy] 01/5/2020 18:54

Why do you care so much about them?

[greg2019] 01/5/2020 17:57

As intu is going to bust, management team should sold their personal houses to save intu, this is a positive action. Take 80% salary, not a man way.

[greg2019] 01/5/2020 16:48

You don't understand numbers, oh, you will buy back yourself at a cash call negative price.


So funny, cash call, right issues, 9 brand fashion, you should re value the properties to negative, ask shareholders 15 billion pounds more.

[greg2019] 01/5/2020 16:45

10 years Renting price can buy the shop, why you don't buy rather than renting ?

Only because intu is going to bust , but not selling .

You are joking.

[zcaprd7] 01/5/2020 16:27

"Only silly people don't buy"

[edinandy] 01/5/2020 16:06

You are miss understanding retail with this approach.

[greg2019] 01/5/2020 14:30

Let talk this issue in front of all shareholders and world media at annual shareholders meeting.

An advertisment states ' INTU Merry hill Shop to rent
£ 129,654 per Annum 1665 square feet.'
In February 2020. A screenshot being taken as an evidence.

Let's work out, why revaluation since 2017 is not acceptable, book value reduced from 411 pence to 147 pence per share, basic on what? Basic on CEO 's  Mouth?

1665 square feet /10.764 = 154.68 square meter.

129654/154.68=838.21 pounds per square meter per year

Current Merry Hill sale price is 587600000 pounds, totally 155200 square meter. 587600000/155200 = 3786.08 pounds per square meter.

3786.08/838.21= 4.52 years, which mean if a renter pay the rent for 4.52 years, the total amount of money paid in 4.52 years, can buy the shop (999 years), therefore, if you are a renter, are you willing to sign a rent contract for 7 to 10 years (on average), or buy the shop?

And also basic on this calculation, re valuation in 2019 is much lower than 2011 is not acceptable, the true value is 382 pence per share basic on Spanish asset  sold price at end of 2019.

During coronavirus, the government will pay salary for 6 months, even intu properties close for 6 month to 1 year (insurance can pay salary when losing a job or government might can pay up to 1 year salary), even no any income for 1 year, but almost no cost as well, so intu properties true value will remain 382 pence per share basic on Spanish asset sold price.

CEO set ' fix balance sheet as strategy ', actually, which is a financial department strategy, if intu properties change strategy to selling all shops to individual renters, as they already invested lots on decoration, built loyalty customers etc, they don't want to move firstly, basic on the calculation above, only silly people don't buy, the selling price to renters can easily go up to the price on 2017. The valuation in 2017 is 931,000,000 pounds for merry hill, divided by 155200 = 5998.71 pounds per square meter, 5998.71/838.21= 7.16 years, as the renters signed 7-10 years rent contract on average, if selling to renters , the price can even increase to 10 years rent price , the true book value should be 411*1.397= 574.02 pence per share, if the renters get mortgage from bank for 20 years,  only pay half of current rent roughly , after 20 years, no rent cost for renters, only pay a little bit service charge (Intu properties only need to remain securities,  rubbish collection , air condition water, cleaning and electricity basic service charge, still profitable) and business rates. at the other side, intu properties will receive 70% cash (10.5-0.6)*1.397 *0.7= 9.68 billion pounds within 1 year, and 13.83 billion pounds within 2 years.  Book value is roughly 574.02 pence per share.

As intu properties already listed intu merry hill to sell, why don't sell renters already engaged and also invest lots on decoration and loyalty customers etc., which can reduce the rent cost up to 48.5% in 20 years, after 20 years, no rent cost, the demand is high, and the most important thing is selling at a higher price. If they refuse to sell at a higher price and an easier way to renters, this is an evidence scam.

In conclusion, share price droped 95.6% in 1 year, in any companies , the chairman and CEO must leave, otherwise intu properties confirm re valuation, right issue, cash call, 9 brand online fashion etc. is scam.

We will forecast a taken over is a must no less than 2.5 billion pounds ,184.5 pence per share or to selling individual shops to renters at as higher price as possible, to show a clean-handed, otherwise, intu properties will be investigated by world investors and reported by world media, and management team will be sued to prison by positive UK Government and Polices.

Please return shareholders money 452.1 pence to 574.02 pence per share. ( The location Merry Hill  are worse than ARNDALE center etc. The price is even higher), over 90% shop been rented out at a high price with an average contract 7-10 years, if the renters buying the shops with mortgage, can reduce rent cost 50% each year within 20 years , and no rent cost after 20 years, there is no excuses for the renters not buying the shop. Even 50% shops closed, which mean intu can sell 50% shops to renters as 50% reduced on rent cost, intu properties for sure not going to bust.

Make it simple, there is no excuse for renters not buying the shops as cost can reduce 50% each year for 20 years, after 20 years, no rent cost, even 50% shop closed, intu properties are still not going to bust.

So we will forecast that a taken over is a must no less than 2.5 billion pounds, 184.5 pence per share (basic on all sorts of data, under the condition no big complaints ) before annual shareholders meeting, otherwise, intu properties management will be sued to prison (90% shareholders been hurt by 95.6 % dropped in a properties company book value is 411 pence per share in 2017), peel group will lost all money, Intu need to return shareholders up to 30 billion pounds , LSE will lost 50% of international financial markets and UK financial companies will lost 50% international market in next 10 years, intu-virus once being reported by world media (thousand of shareholders are on the way to sue intu properties at annual shareholders meeting, you can't miss it by statistics).

As global needs fund already forecasted cash call (on 12-03-2020) being terminated in January 2020, we also forecast today(14-April 2020) any actions try to delist below book value (184.5 pence per share minimum ) basic on the calculation above, will definitely being investigated by world shareholders at annual shareholders meeting in May 2020.

One more point, if a renter buy the shop, can still sell the shop anytime later on, as the value of the shop is increasing , but not dropping at least , the renters actually pay nothing for the rent from now on once of buying the shop, even a profit on the shop properties value, in conclusion, renters as already engaged with intu properties, and spend lots on decoration and built loyalty customers, buying the shop equally no rent cost from now on, only silly people don't buy, global needs fund will forecaste 90% shops can be sold within 1 year if intu  properties sell the shop to individual renters or millions properties investors.

If one renter buy the shop, each year rent cost reduce 50%, and after 20 years , no rent cost,  are you going to buy or rent (7-10 years rent contract).

If intu properties sell individual shops to renters at a higher price 452.1-574.02 pence book value per share and easier , why sales at a low price below 184.5 pence per share to one single buyer? (Properties are not watermelons, after 10 days, the value will drop to nothing)

As renters signed a contract with intu properties , exactly same with signing a future with fixed price in financial markets, therefore we get re valuation is not acceptable from this points as well, please stop now.

[zcaprd7] 01/5/2020 14:24

Topped up today, I'm with Eastgate RE LLC...

[williamcooper104] 01/5/2020 08:49

The due debt is whenever lenders decide it is - that's what happens when you bust your covenants

[williamcooper104] 01/5/2020 08:48

Oops the mandatory swap break sounds nasty Haven't seen a few days standstill before Usually they are for 1-6 months

[greg2019] 01/5/2020 08:15

You are wrong, CEO should know better than us about debt date as he is not in rush to sell assets.

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[greg2019] 01/5/2020 08:11

Let talk this issue in front of all shareholders and world media.

An advertisment states ' INTU Merry hill Shop to rent
£ 129,654 per Annum 1665 square feet.'
In February 2020. A screenshot being taken as an evidence.

Let's work out, why revaluation since 2017 is not acceptable, book value reduced from 411 pence to 147 pence per share, basic on what? Basic on CEO 's  Mouth?

1665 square feet /10.764 = 154.68 square meter.

129654/154.68=838.21 pounds per square meter per year

Current Merry Hill sale price is 587600000 pounds, totally 155200 square meter. 587600000/155200 = 3786.08 pounds per square meter.

3786.08/838.21= 4.52 years, which mean if a renter pay the rent for 4.52 years, the total amount of money paid in 4.52 years, can buy the shop (999 years), therefore, if you are a renter, are you willing to sign a rent contract for 7 to 10 years (on average), or buy the shop?

And also basic on this calculation, re valuation in 2019 is much lower than 2011 is not acceptable, the true value is 382 pence per share basic on Spanish asset  sold price at end of 2019.

During coronavirus, the government will pay salary for 6 months, even intu properties close for 6 month to 1 year (insurance can pay salary when losing a job or government might can pay up to 1 year salary), even no any income for 1 year, but almost no cost as well, so intu properties true value will remain 382 pence per share basic on Spanish asset sold price.

CEO set ' fix balance sheet as strategy ', actually, which is a financial department strategy, if intu properties change strategy to selling all shops to individual renters, as they already invested lots on decoration, built loyalty customers etc, they don't want to move firstly, basic on the calculation above, only silly people don't buy, the selling price to renters can easily go up to the price on 2017. The valuation in 2017 is 931,000,000 pounds for merry hill, divided by 155200 = 5998.71 pounds per square meter, 5998.71/838.21= 7.16 years, as the renters signed 7-10 years rent contract on average, if selling to renters , the price can even increase to 10 years rent price , the true book value should be 411*1.397= 574.02 pence per share, if the renters get mortgage from bank for 20 years,  only pay half of current rent roughly , after 20 years, no rent cost for renters, only pay a little bit service charge (Intu properties only need to remain securities,  rubbish collection , air condition water, cleaning and electricity basic service charge, still profitable) and business rates. at the other side, intu properties will receive 70% cash (10.5-0.6)*1.397 *0.7= 9.68 billion pounds within 1 year, and 13.83 billion pounds within 2 years.  Book value is roughly 574.02 pence per share.

As intu properties already listed intu merry hill to sell, why don't sell renters already engaged and also invest lots on decoration and loyalty customers etc., which can reduce the rent cost up to 48.5% in 20 years, after 20 years, no rent cost, the demand is high, and the most important thing is selling at a higher price. If they refuse to sell at a higher price and an easier way to renters, this is an evidence scam.

In conclusion, share price droped 95.6% in 1 year, in any companies , the chairman and CEO must leave, otherwise intu properties confirm re valuation, right issue, cash call, 9 brand online fashion etc. is scam.

We will forecast a taken over is a must no less than 2.5 billion pounds ,184.5 pence per share or to selling individual shops to renters at as higher price as possible, to show a clean-handed, otherwise, intu properties will be investigated by world investors and reported by world media, and management team will be sued to prison by positive UK Government and Polices.

Please return shareholders money 452.1 pence to 574.02 pence per share. ( The location Merry Hill  are worse than ARNDALE center etc. The price is even higher), over 90% shop been rented out at a high price with an average contract 7-10 years, if the renters buying the shops with mortgage, can reduce rent cost 50% each year within 20 years , and no rent cost after 20 years, there is no excuses for the renters not buying the shop. Even 50% shops closed, which mean intu can sell 50% shops to renters as 50% reduced on rent cost, intu properties for sure not going to bust.

Make it simple, there is no excuse for renters not buying the shops as cost can reduce 50% each year for 20 years, after 20 years, no rent cost, even 50% shop closed, intu properties are still not going to bust.

So we will forecast that a taken over is a must no less than 2.5 billion pounds, 184.5 pence per share (basic on all sorts of data, under the condition no big complaints ) before annual shareholders meeting, otherwise, intu properties management will be sued to prison (90% shareholders been hurt by 95.6 % dropped in a properties company book value is 411 pence per share in 2017), peel group will lost all money, Intu need to return shareholders up to 30 billion pounds , LSE will lost 50% of international financial markets and UK financial companies will lost 50% international market in next 10 years, intu-virus once being reported by world media (thousand of shareholders are on the way to sue intu properties at annual shareholders meeting, you can't miss it by statistics).

As global needs fund already forecasted cash call (on 12-03-2020) being terminated in January 2020, we also forecast today(14-April 2020) any actions try to delist below book value (184.5 pence per share minimum ) basic on the calculation above, will definitely being investigated by world shareholders at annual shareholders meeting in May 2020.

One more point, if a renter buy the shop, can still sell the shop anytime later on, as the value of the shop is increasing , but not dropping at least , the renters actually pay nothing for the rent from now on once of buying the shop, even a profit on the shop properties value, in conclusion, renters as already engaged with intu properties, and spend lots on decoration and built loyalty customers, buying the shop equally no rent cost from now on, only silly people don't buy, global needs fund will forecaste 90% shops can be sold within 1 year if intu  properties sell the shop to individual renters or millions properties investors.

If one renter buy the shop, each year rent cost reduce 50%, and after 20 years , no rent cost,  are you going to buy or rent (7-10 years rent contract).

If intu properties sell individual shops to renters at a higher price 452.1-574.02 pence book value per share and easier , why sales at a low price below 184.5 pence per share to one single buyer? (Properties are not watermelons, after 10 days, the value will drop to nothing)

As renters signed a contract with intu properties , exactly same with signing a future with fixed price in financial markets, therefore we get re valuation is not acceptable from this points as well, please stop now.

[greg2019] 01/5/2020 08:11

Intu properties next coming date is 2021, holding enough cash, and also CEO Mr Robert comments' not rush to sell quality Asset recently'