Hsbc Share Discussion Threads

[mikepearce45] 02/9/2004 16:36

norad

6 October, 13cents.

[norad] 31/8/2004 12:18

whens the next dividend due ?

[miata] 26/8/2004 13:23

Yes. (Before the annual post Labor Day buying spree).

[psuedoname] 26/8/2004 13:15

hsbc hitting previous resistance at around 860p - what will make it push through that ?

[tuftymatt] 24/8/2004 16:28

"Flog oil and buy equities" sounds right to me but would you buy HSBA at these levels??

[rob mack] 21/8/2004 11:31

There has been quite a few Oil Traders on Bloomberg talking about a steep drop in oil. Likewise there are those that are talking about a push to $60.00.

Also.. There was a dude from Barclays saying they have evidence that "speculators" have already left the oil market....
This is probably true..
... what he didn't say was.. as the "speculators" were exiting oil, they were selling to more "Late Oil Speculators" (Perhaps Banks & Institutions) who were rushing in to buy... Who and are now faced with dumping a shedload of oil!

So where did the oil speculators go?
Perhaps they have moved on from oil!
Could this explain why equities in the UK and the US picked up last week?
Or Perhaps they will come back in force and short Oil down to $30.00 again!!

We seen the first solid signs of weakness in oil yesterday. I believe oil will come back down very soon for a few reasons;
1. The demand / supply thing has been blown out of proportion by speculators, media and those jumping on the bandwagon at the last minute.
2.If it don't, George Bush & Tony Blair have a less than zero chance of getting re-elected.
3. People thinking about buying oil now, will have watched oil drop by $1.00 in a matter of minutes;
(Brent dropped from $45.03 to close at $43.52 -3.5%)
(Light Crude dropped from $48.24 to close at $46.71 -3.3%)
Risk Reward Evaluation;
Buy oil - Risk -3% in an hour
Short oil - Risk +3% in an hour
Buy equities - Oversold Bargains that have already moved up from oversold support. - lowerer risk

So.. a likely scenario could be..
The "Late Oil Speculators" See that oil has peaked....
...and smart money has moved on to equities..
...which are looking sooooo oversold!
...AND are going up by the day! (in spite of Oil Price!)
On your Marks.....
Get Set.....
Flogg Oil....
Buy Equities!!!!

[tuftymatt] 21/8/2004 03:25

Whats all this oil talk got to do with HSBA??

[rob mack] 09/8/2004 11:54

This Morning, The HSI was up the Nikkei had recovered and was heading up.
The NAS, S&P & DOW Futures were (and still are)all looking up... perhaps about to disregard the US Jobs report.

Then..One of ADVFN's Competitors L2 data feed did not work till around 10AM..
Perhaps a hundred Thousand traders could not see what was happening... On very thin volumes... we had a drop in share prices.

The data feed has now been restored.. there are bargains to be had..
Perhaps those people buying in will for a rally of shorters closing positions!

The FTSE is already picking up!!

[rob mack] 09/8/2004 09:36

Brent Crude.. Going Down,... Opened at 40.50 dropped to 40.29!

Large Volume bars on sells.. small volume bars on Buys.

I think many people will have been watching what would happen with Oil this morning..

Oil going down will be good for equities! (except perhaps for Oils Stocks)

To see the volume bars on the chart. click on the chart and tick the OSC box.

[wavering] 03/8/2004 08:43

Is there anybody out there? HSBC is quite a well known bank and I hear they are doing well ...

[zulu001] 04/5/2004 11:15

HSBC quarterly profit up sharply year on year. HSBC announces a Q1 dividend of 13 cents/share to be paid on 7th July, XD 19th May.

[madgooner] 12/4/2004 22:05

Mayflower Corporation, the bus maker and manufacturer of motor vehicle components that went into administration last month, failed for four years to make full payments to HSBC, which was operating an invoice-discounting scheme on its behalf.

Where one company beats the controls there will be others.

[kaffee] 03/4/2004 08:42

Agincourt... What's the Latest TQ Buy Price?

[agincourt] 30/3/2004 17:56

Tradequant have signaled this a buy at 807p

[smartypants] 15/3/2004 13:01

monday carnt get any worse

[smartypants] 11/3/2004 23:47

friday must be a better day

[ramesham] 11/3/2004 00:27

recon not..

[smartypants] 08/3/2004 08:28

R we gona hold on to this morrnings jump ?

[hokistar] 05/3/2004 16:56

Not sure if this was picked up last weekend. Worth a look...

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Richard Wachman
Sunday February 29, 2004
The Observer

With money coming out of their ears, the banks look a decent place for investors to stash some of their wealth. But if you had a choice, which one would be the best?

I must say it is tempting to plump for HBOS, which last week reported a near 30 per cent rise in profits, to around £4 billion.

Provisions for bad or doubtful debt have jumped to over £1bn, but chief executive James Crosby stressed that the rise was in line with the growth in the company's loan book - not because credit quality was deteriorating.

Nevertheless, HBOS has seen a rise in mortgage arrears and, in response to concerns, the bank is promising to be more careful this year.

And yet, Crosby's tactics look good: the bank aggressively boosted market share during the downturn of 2002/2003, but is now applying tighter lending criteria as interest rates are raised.

The continuing profitability of this financial powerhouse is assured because many of Crosby's customers will be coming off discounted deals in 2004 - just in time to catch the ratcheting up of base rates by the Bank of England.

HBOS's shares represent better value than its bigger competitor Royal Bank of Scotland - and yet, with 25 per cent of the UK mortgage market, I cannot recommend HBOS as it is more exposed than most to a housing slump.

RBS nearly gets my vote, but I share the worries of some analysts who fret that boss Fred Goodwin could yet be tempted to overextend the bank by making some foolish foray into a foreign market. Moreover, RBS's accounts provide rather less detail than some of its competitors.

Poor old Lloyds TSB has been drifting for years, and new chief executive Eric Daniels still has a mountain to climb. But the dividend yield of 7.5 per cent is a bonus for those with an eye on income rather than share price appreciation.

Funnily enough, my pick of the crop is Barclays - far cheaper than the likes of HSBC and Standard Chartered, and an institution that still hasn't come into its own.

Under Matt Barrett and his lieutenants John Varley and Bob Diamond, Barclays has a proven management team, but it has yet to cut its teeth on a really juicy acquisition, one that could transform it from a boring high street lender into a global banking force. Standard Chartered, of course, would be an ideal partner, but there are other candidates - Deutsche Bank, perhaps.

Even if Barrett holds fire, there is scope to extract extra cost savings from its domestic operations, which means more capital for bolt-on buys - both in the US and Europe - focusing, no doubt, on credit cards and corporate lending.

At 489p, Barclays shares are trading well below their annual high of 550p, so plenty to go for.

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[zulu001] 03/3/2004 18:19

Did you mean a defecational analist? Is it like reading tealeaves?

[kpwuk] 03/3/2004 16:01

KPE. Ahh! A defacational anylist!

[kpe] 03/3/2004 13:36

Not likely. What a pile of poo.

[smartypants] 03/3/2004 09:04

ar well
maybe tomorrow ?