Hsbc Share Discussion Threads

[smartypants] 02/3/2004 16:57

Fingers crossed
stayed with it
figard I only need a 10p rise tomorrow and I will be even !!!!
if only they were a big profit making co. wouldn,t get these big falls in price

[kpe] 02/3/2004 15:51

Not looking too good yet again. Come on HSBC lets have a blue upward day....

[smartypants] 02/3/2004 14:17

All the banks and bos,s on my watch list are down
might jump ship if we can recover above 850

[smartypants] 02/3/2004 13:27

well it seems we are not alone
directers have got 14 shares each !

[davidblack] 02/3/2004 13:15

No I bought 6000 at 857p and am feeling slightly fragile! I thought a 10p fall was looking good and got sucked in on a mini rally which lasted for two seconds after I bought.

Hey ho.

[smartypants] 02/3/2004 12:21

Not a lot of chat on here is there ?
was there only me daft enough to buy these dogs today ?

[miata] 01/3/2004 08:13

Good (£243 profit per second!), but could have been even better.

[miata] 01/3/2004 08:09

HSBC Holdings PLC
2003 FINAL RESULTS - HIGHLIGHTS

*Operating income up 54 per cent to US$41,072 million (US$26,595 million
in 2002).

For the year (excluding goodwill amortisation):

*Operating profit before provisions up 72 per cent to US$19,990 million
(US$11,641 million in 2002).

*Group pre-tax profit up 37 per cent to US$14,401 million (US$10,513
million in 2002).

*Attributable profit up 46 per cent to US$10,359 million (US$7,102 million
in 2002).

*Return on average invested capital of 13.7 per cent (12.9 per cent in
2002).

*Earnings per share up 30 per cent to US$0.99 (US$0.76 in 2002).

For the year (as reported):

*Operating profit before provisions up 72 per cent to US$18,540 million
(US$10,787 million in 2002).

*Group pre-tax profit up 33 per cent to US$12,816 million (US$9,650
million in 2002).

*Attributable profit up 41 per cent to US$8,774 million (US$6,239 million
in 2002).

*Return on average shareholders' funds of 13.0 per cent (12.4 per cent in
2002).

*Basic earnings per share up 25 per cent to US$0.84 (US$0.67in 2002).

Dividend and capital position:

*Third interim dividend (in lieu of final dividend) of US$0.24 per share;
total dividend for 2003 of US$0.60 per share, an increase of 13 per cent
over 2002.

*Tier 1 capital ratio of 8.9per cent; total capital ratio of 12.0 per
cent (2002: tier 1 capital ratio of 9.0 per cent and total capital ratio of
13.3 per cent).

The figures for 2002 have been restated in this document to reflect the adoption
of Urgent Issues Task Force Abstracts 37 'Purchases and sales of own shares',
and 38 'Accounting for ESOP trusts', details of which are set out in Note 1 on
page 17.

HSBC HOLDINGS REPORTS PRE-TAX PROFIT OF US$12,816 MILLION

HSBC made a profit on ordinary activities before tax of US$12,816 million in
2003, an increase of US$3,166 million, or 33 per cent, compared with 2002. Of
this increase, over 70 per cent arose from two recent major acquisitions;
Household contributed US$1,827 million while HSBC Mexico contributed US$441
million in its first full year.

The Directors have declared a third interim dividend for 2003 of US$0.24 per
ordinary share (in lieu of a final dividend) which, together with the first
interim dividend of US$0.24 per ordinary share and the second interim dividend
of US$0.12 already paid, will make a total distribution for the year of US$0.60
per share (US$0.53 per share in 2002), an increase of 13.2 per cent. The
dividend will be payable on 5 May 2004.

Net interest income of US$25,598 million in 2003 was US$10,138 million, or 66
per cent, higher than 2002. Of this increase, Household contributed US$8,305
million and HSBC Mexico US$874 million. Excluding these acquisitions, and in
terms of constant currency, net interest income was marginally higher.

Other operating income of US$15,474 million was US$4,339 million, or 39 per
cent, higher than 2002. Of this increase, Household contributed US$1,878 million
and HSBC Mexico US$599 million.

Operating expenses (excludinggoodwill amortisation) rose US$6,128 million, or
41 per cent, of which Household contributed US$3,406 million and HSBC Mexico
US$881 million. HSBC's cost:income ratio, excluding goodwill amortisation,
improved to 51.3 per cent compared with 56.2 percent in 2002.

The charge for bad and doubtful debts was US$6,093 million in 2003, US$4,772
million higher than in 2002. This was essentially all attributable to
acquisitions. Of the increase, Household accounted for US$4,575 million and HSBC
Mexico US$110 million.

Gains on disposal of investments and tangible fixed assets of US$414 million
were US$94 million lower than 2002 reflecting lower sales of investment debt
securities in the US.

The tier 1 capital and total capital ratios for the Group remained strong at 8.9
per cent and 12.0 per cent, respectively, at 31 December 2003.

The Group's total assets at 31 December 2003 were US$1,034 billion, an increase
of US$276 billion, or 36 per cent, since 31 December 2002. Of this increase,
US$131 billion were assets (including the related goodwill) added as at the date
of the acquisition of Household. Excluding this and at constant exchange rates,
total assets grew by US$92 billion or 11.2 per cent.

Profit attributable to shareholders in 2003 rose 41 per cent to US$8,774 million
on revenues which were 54 per cent higher at US$41,072 million. Profit
attributable excluding the amortisation of goodwill, which is the measurement
basis we believe best reveals our true performance, exceeded US$10 billion for
the first time rising 46 per cent to US$10,359 million. On a per share basis
earnings attributable to shareholders amounted to US$0.84 or US$0.99 before
goodwill amortisation, increases of 25 and 30 per cent respectively. The Board
has approved a third interim dividend of US$0.24 per share taking the total
dividend for the year to US$0.60 per share, an increase of 13 per cent over
2002.

[miata] 01/3/2004 06:58

Market Expectation: HSBC year to December pretax profit 13.10-14.70 bln usd vs 9.65 bln.

[chris townrow] 29/2/2004 17:02

Yes I'm also looking for a good result on Monday, but do you think the shares will go up or down?

[vinyy] 29/2/2004 16:59

LONDON (AFX) - HSBC declined to comment on a report it has been approached
by Deutsche Bank AG about a possible merger.
"We never comment on market rumours," said a spokeswoman for HSBC.
According to a report in the Sunday Express, which cited unnamed City
sources, senior executives from Deutsche Bank's Frankfurt headquarters have
travelled to London in the past fortnight for high-level talks about a tie-up.
No-one at Deutsche Bank in London or Frankfurt could be reached for comment


............stay lucky...............VINYY

[miata] 29/2/2004 11:20

Looking for a good result on Monday.

[miata] 12/2/2004 08:49

The HSI closed up 100 at 13625 but gains were trimmed and sentiment somewhat dampened by talk that property developer New World Development might be making a rights issue.

[miata] 10/2/2004 10:18

In HK, the index closed down 61 at 13516. "We expect banks to outperform this month triggered by the release of strong earnings results for 2003. HSBC and BOC Hong Kong are our top picks," said Eric Yuen, analyst at Dao Heng Securities Ltd.

[miata] 04/2/2004 12:16

In Hong Kong today, Hang Seng Index heavyweight HSBC lent support to the market after recovering 0.50 hkd or 0.42 pct to 120.00, as analysts said recent market falls opened buying opportunites for bargain hunters.

[intercasta] 03/2/2004 10:50

We'll be discussing the banking sector and the widely expected rate rise from the BoE in the room at 11am today. and let us know your views!

PatriciaB (ADVFN)

[gradient] 02/2/2004 20:30

i see support for these at 8-10. the candle gap at this area created in october might get filled at long last. next support would be around 8-00. i think we will be well into the oversold chart indicators when it reaches 8-00.

[pineapple1] 02/2/2004 13:43

Doesn't appear to be much support for this stock,dropping like a stone me thinks that it will be time to join the exodus soon.

[pineapple1] 31/1/2004 19:59

I am also a holder of hsbc and i must admit that i have begun to lose a little faith.It seems to open every day strongly but over the course of the day gradually lose strength until as is the case, slip into negative territary during the afternoon.I am not sure why this is the case although i believe the market may have concerns, perhaps hsbc wasting a pile of cash bidding for Egg,or the effect of a declining dollar on earnings.This had hither to been a strongly trending stock and i hope that is does not decide to continue with a strong trend.............but this time down.I would be interested in how others see this going on what is a fairly quiet discussion board.

[darkoa] 30/1/2004 16:38

Is HSBC going up ever, any opinions?

[hopi] 23/1/2004 19:40

Just on Bloomberg TV. (Ticker)

HSBC may bid for EGG.

[gradient] 22/1/2004 21:17

i wonder if it will hold at 862 tomorrow or go to 842?