HSBC Share Chat (HSBA)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
HSBC Holdings	LSE:HSBA	London	Ordinary Share	GB0005405286	ORD $0.50 (UK REG)

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	-1.80p	-0.24%	736.20p	736.10p	736.30p	736.30p	730.00p	732.90p	26,032,387	16:35:01

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Banks	34,347.5	5,759.4	5.7	135.4	146,251.46

HSBC Share Discussion Threads

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04/8/2017 18:18	Number of shares bought back this week and cancelled since August 1st: 2,056,878, 2nd: 1,982,832 3rd: 2,136,326 4th: 1,237,905	mazarin	Read Full Thread Reply
03/8/2017 19:18	Great finish today considering it went XD.hopefully will now continue its upward trajectory towards to 800p level.	warranty	Read Full Thread Reply
03/8/2017 08:55	Today went Ex-Dividend and opening price reflected that	mazarin	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 22:21	Strongly agree re buybacks Jeffian.Banks wasted £billions buying back ahead of their shares crashing in the 2008 crash. Then they reissued them and far more than they had bought back in heavily discounted rights issues at a fraction of the buyback prices. Those who did well were not those supposedly rewarded with the buybacks (they lost heavily)but those buying in the rights issues or after them. And they are now getting dividends too. E.g. From Lloyds. No wonder Directors love buybacks. Their bonus payments are often based on eps, and fewer shares in issue means higher eps - but note often NOT an increasing share price.	kenmitch	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 19:10	"Never let the tax tail wag the dog 128." Hear, hear! A lesson I've learned the hard way. Jimmy Durante? "Dey said Napoleon wuz mad. Dey said Rasputin wuz mad. Dey said Louie wuz mad...." "Who's Louie?" "He's my brudder. He WUZ mad!"	jeffian	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 18:40	Never let the tax tail wag the dog 128. I never think of CGT when thinking of getting out of a share and taking profit. 20 pct hit for me yes if it's not in the sipp or isa but that's life.What's cgt basic rate these days? 10 pct.....20 pct for higher rate taxpayers.Take it on the chin if you are tempted to take some profit. You're allowed £11k tax free anyway. Any of your holdings in an isa then no tax issues.Spread betting for far dates for long term holds also a fine way of avoiding CGT.	brahmsnliszt	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 18:34	I purchased my first tranche of HSBA on the 1st August 2013 - exactly 4 years ago today. Since then I have been adding to them quietly, purchasing some as low as £4.684, and now have a fraction under 54,000 shares. The Chinese economy seems to be good, whilst this absurd Brexit fiasco can only get worse and is bound to drag the UK economy downwards. So, in theory, I should hold. But how much higher can HSBA shares go? If I sell, I will be caned by HMRC, as I have nothing to sell at a loss to offset a gain which will be approaching £70K. Selling a partial amount does not seem any wiser.... All I can think of is that wonderful song by Jimmy Durante, (which really shows my age), "Did you ever get thr feeling you wanted to go, but then you had the feeling you wanted to stay" Hey Ho! Decisions; decisions. What would you do?	128stayhi	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 17:43	Click on "Related Threads" at the top of the page and it will be in the list.	largeronald	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 17:31	Sorry mikepearce45. I only found this site by accident! I have never posted a thread before. So how do I access the 'Revived' thread please?	128stayhi	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 17:13	Apart from what finkwot above has posted, I would repost your 7826 on the new "Revived" link, as this one is supposed to be closed, for a bigger audience. Making a profit can be a real bummer at times - wish I had your problem! Good luck	mikepearce45	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 17:08	I'd sell enough to use up my CGT allowance. £11,300 profit. Bingo. Personally I'm holding on, but I don't have anywhere near that amount.	finkwot	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 17:05	I purchased my first tranche of HSBA on the 1st August 2013 - exactly 4 years ago today. Since then I have been adding to them quietly, purchasing some as low as £4.684, and now have a fraction under 54,000 shares. The Chinese economy seems to be good, whilst this absurd Brexit fiasco can only get worse and is bound to drag the UK economy downwards. So, in theory, I should hold. But how much higher can HSBA shares go? If I sell, I will be caned by HMRC, as I have nothing to sell at a loss to offset a gain which will be approaching £70K. Selling a partial amount does not seem any wiser.... All I can think of is that wonderful song by Jimmy Durante, (which really shows my age), "Did you ever get thr feeling you wanted to go, but then you had the feeling you wanted to stay" Hey Ho! Decisions; decisions. What would you do?	128stayhi	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 13:31	I assuming that the 'law' of supply and demand applies, as when the 'buy back' shares are 'cancelled' it effectively leaves those in the Market potentially more likely to retain value. The maximum number of Ordinary Shares that could be repurchased under this Buy-back scheme is 1,986,691,641. That's quite a sizeable chunk	mazarin	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 11:23	I must say that, although I get the theory that reducing the shares in issue increases NAV/eps for the remainder, I really struggle with the idea that share buybacks are "returning surplus capital to shareholders". They are returning all the surplus capital to some of the shareholders errrr...... who are no longer shareholders because they've sold their shares! Whether Mr. Market rewards the rest of us with an increased share price is a bit of a lottery. The press comment says that it is a good thing because simply increasing the divi may be unsustainable in the long run but so what? It could be done by a "Special Dividend" (which is a one-off by its nature) or a Return of Capital (unfortunately, now treated as a dividend for tax purposes) and then all of the surplus is spread across all of the shareholders rather than just those who agree to sell. Still, Mr. Market seems to like it so far.	jeffian	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 10:41	JP Morgan Cazenove Neutral 760.85 690.00 690.00 Reiterates Barclays Capital Equal weight 760.85 650.00 700.00 Reiterates	skinny	Read Full Thread Reply
01/8/2017 07:55	Deutsche Bank Hold 755.00 695.00 737.00 Retains	skinny	Read Full Thread Reply
31/7/2017 16:47	Considering today's results it looks like the new thread has possibly had the desired effect, lets hope it continues.....!	mazarin	Read Full Thread Reply
31/7/2017 14:46	34inch waste..I don't have massive shorts.	smartypants	Read Full Thread Reply
31/7/2017 13:49	smartypants, does that mean you've opened an absolutely massive short?	arf dysg	Read Full Thread Reply
31/7/2017 11:58	Heading for an in the red finish by close today, if not half an hour before?	smartypants	Read Full Thread Reply
31/7/2017 09:15	Goldman Sachs Neutral 762.80 - 770.00 Reiterates Reassuringly consistent! Shore Capital Sell 763.05 - - Reiterates	skinny	Read Full Thread Reply
31/7/2017 08:56	By Nisha Gopalan (Bloomberg Gadfly) -- Pop the champagne. HSBC Holdings Plc, riding a share surge, is promising another great giveaway that might ring in even more price gains. Once the dividend play of note, HSBC has become the buyback king. On Monday, after reporting a larger-than-estimated jump in second-quarter profit, the London-headquartered bank announced plans for a buyback of as much as $2 billion before the year is out. Armed with a strong core equity Tier 1 ratio of 14.7 percent, plus a clean bill of health at its U.S. operations, HSBC can afford to be generous. That generosity has the happy coincidence of boosting profitability too, not to mention getting as-yet-unconvinced analysts on board. HSBC second-quarter adjusted pretax profit +13% By reducing the number of shares in circulation, the buyback puts HSBC within striking distance of its 10 percent return-on-equity goal. (The bank no longer gives a time frame for when it might achieve this, however.) HSBC posted an ROE of 8.8 percent for the first half, compared with 7.4 percent in the same period of 2016. The buyback, on top of the $3.5 billion already undertaken over the past 12 months, adds some gloss to a payout strategy that was beginning to wear thin. Despite CEO Stuart Gulliver's comments that the bank has paid out more in dividends over the past year than any other European or American lender, HSBC no longer has the allure of progressive dividends. On Monday, it continued its projections of "sustained dividends," but the rising share price has taken a toll on payout yields. The challenge of finding a successor for Gulliver, who retires next year, also still looms. In March, for the first time in its 150-year history, HSBC chose an outsider, AIA head Mark Tucker, to replace HSBC veteran Douglas Flint as chairman. Tucker, and the new CEO, will be steering a much stronger bank, but one whose "pivot to Asia" program has a way to go. And Brexit is approaching. Even so, Monday's good news outweighed the bad by a wide margin. Revenue increased for a second quarter, and crucially, expenses look to be under control. So-called adjusted jaws, a figure that measures growth in revenue versus growth in costs, came in at 0.5 percent, compared with a negative 0.6 percent in the first quarter. They're results that justify the number of Chinese investors rushing headlong into HSBC's stock of late. Lured by dividends that are more attractive than domestic banks, mainland buyers now own 4.3 percent of HSBC's shares through the trading link that connects Hong Kong with Shanghai. That's up from 2.3 percent four months ago, when such data first became available. With interest rates in the U.S. on the rise, and this buyback in the cards, HSBC investors can expect their good fortune to continue. This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Bloomberg LP and its owners.	brahmsnliszt	Read Full Thread Reply
31/7/2017 08:40	Actually looks better on a weekly chart. 799 target based on Wave from June 2016 to Feb this year (Wave 3 of 5) 100% Fib target at 910 High of Nov 2006 at 1028.5 1.618 Fib target 1090 matches the ATH of Jan 2001 free stock charts from uk.advfn.com	enami	Read Full Thread Reply

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