Holders Technology Share Discussion Threads

[barnetpeter] 05/2/2005 12:06

Not sure what the point is here but if u check the threads I bought RTD at 8p and sold out at 28p at which point I said they were vastly inflated. The price then went all the way down again before its recent dizzy rally. To my mind, at a cap of £100 million it is again way overvalued and if we had a sharp downturn
such "bubble" stocks would fall by 70% or so. People have and will get burnt on this type of stock.

On the other hand, Holders has never been below the 80p level, has produced 50% capital gain in ten months and a solid 6% dividend. That is an excellent return in "normal" markets and I am hopeful that the next results will be very good indeed and will see another 50% gain over the next year.

[amarcou] 05/2/2005 11:26

Mitzis,

What are you doing on RTD thread?

Remember my post here?


amarcou - 2 Nov'04 - 11:40 - 379 of 435 edit


And RTD has done very well going from 13p to 20p in a few days!!

amarcou - 3 Nov'04 - 08:42 - 382 of 435 edit


Actually the sell that followed confirmed it.

RTD are really motoring ahead!!

[diogenesj] 05/2/2005 00:18

Could just be gathering itself for a great leap upwards, m.

[mitzis] 04/2/2005 18:17

Do my eyes decieve me. were up 2.5p today .Not a bad end to a very good week..in a whispered voice..

[mitzis] 31/1/2005 10:16

Another great buy @125p pre market....

[amarcou] 27/1/2005 18:47

I suppose we had another buy today;warrants another post.

[amarcou] 26/1/2005 19:18

Activity here seems to run in line with volumes of trades.

So since we had a buy today I thought I would post;LOL!!

[diogenesj] 24/1/2005 10:20

If you would look at the accounts and the forecasts I quoted above, stan, you would see that it is much more likely that the uptrend will continue. There is always a risk with any share, of course, and I think that may be what you don't like.

As for BISI and CGT, the problem doesn't arise because it is fully listed and I bought and sold in my PEP and ISA. (Bought back at a higher price than I sold, though, so I missed some of the rise.)

[stan] 24/1/2005 07:11

Diogenes...sorry about that...didn't realise you had bought back in again as you never mentioned the fact on the bisichi thread...i must say you're very nimble-footed to be in and out like that so quickly...god it must be a nightmare trying to work out your GCT and all that...anyway...as for hdt, i agree with mitzis, it could rise to 130p this week judging by past perfomance...and by the same criteria it should fall to 100p by the next...such is life.

[mitzis] 23/1/2005 22:30

should rise to 130p this week judging by past performance....

[diogenesj] 23/1/2005 22:13

stan: I did sell Bisichi at one point, but shortly afterwards recognised my mistake and bought them back, since when they have risen like a small coal-fired rocket. No doubt the time will come when they really should be sold - but it hasn't yet. Meanwhile a 71% rise since your 'overvalued' post does suggest to me that you may have been, er, a little bit wrong.

[barnetpeter] 23/1/2005 22:08

Stan - I suggested this at 80p 9 months ago. It pays a good dividend (I expect 5p at the finals this time around), the last results were strong, it is on a very low PE based on those. An excellent albeit cheap investment in Topgrow looks useful. Holders are very cautious but this is just the type of company that could hit a seven figure profit and be rerated. Finally, the balance sheet is solid as you can find in the AIM market. On a £5 million cap, jam tomorrow it aint.

Frankly, if this is about the best company you can find to be bearish on, you are plain bonkers.

[stan] 23/1/2005 17:18

amarcou...have you really got around the 150k mark invested in hdt?...god u ppl are in a different world to me..."not surprisning" no doubt some of you will say!

[stan] 23/1/2005 17:14

Diogenes...re bisichi...looking at the posts there i understand that you have taken my advice and sold recently for about 220p...obviously you mush have felt the same way as me about the shares and taken some very healthy profits...of course events since then have taken us both by surprise...we couldn't have rationally imagined that they would shoot up to the 270p mark so suddenly (helped by the IC tip no doubt), but i think shortly you may be congratulating yourself of getting out when u did and that 220p will seem a very good price to have taken profits at. Valuations for eneregy stocks have just gone silly at the moment...it'll all end in tears.

[mad4it] 22/1/2005 19:33

Yeah, Stan is just trying a cheeky deramp. That chart and those figures provided by Diojenes tell you all you need to know about HDT.

Of course any company can disappoint, but you'd never invest at all if you took that attitude.

Congrats on your profits.

p.s. Remember, if you ever get fed up with your hubby, I'll be waiting! ;)

[amarcou] 22/1/2005 19:16

No seriously now the shares have started 03 at 33p and closed in 04 at 105p.

Not a bad return PLUs dividend.

I am not ramping here ; just responding to stan's comment that the shares have fallen dramamtically in the past and are likely to do so again.

Of course shares carry risks; we all know that; so each ought to DYOR.

[mad4it] 22/1/2005 18:30

" I just see a very good and steady increase here. "

Well you would say that, as you're holding 3.18% of the shares! lol! But, of course, you're right. Great looking chart, great looking company.

p.s. Are you still married ? Because, if not, perhaps you and I.....! ;)

[amarcou] 22/1/2005 16:40

Stan

"they could fall dramatically, as they have done in the past..." you say.

RU looking at the same chart?

The one above for the last two years and a bit starts with 33p in Jan 03 peaks at 70p and closes the year at 65p

2004 opens at 65p peaks at 120p and closes at 105p.


I just see a very good and steady increase here.

[diogenesj] 22/1/2005 12:10

No, I wasn't dreaming, stan. Looking through the Bisichi Mining thread, I see that you posted there at some length (although you appeared to be having difficulty understanding the accounts), before deciding not to buy.

This was your first post:

"stan - 11 Sep'04 - 15:17 - 91 of 274

massively overvalued!!!"

It was followed by a number of others equally cogently argued and in much the same vein.

On 11 September the price of Bisichi Mining (BISI) was 160.5p. It is now 274.5p, having risen 71% in that short space of time.

[diogenesj] 22/1/2005 12:01

Thank you for that sound advice, stan. But haven't I had the benefit of your financial advice before, or am I dreaming?

[stan] 22/1/2005 11:26

well i wouldn't get too excited everybody...they're always shooting up and then falling back down again with a bump...they could fall dramatically, as they have done in the past, if the news is bad on forward trading, no matter how good this year's results prove to be....just short term paper gains for the moment i'm afraid, so unless u'v sold i wouldn't book that caribbean holiday just yet.

[mitzis] 22/1/2005 09:26

A macd buy signal was generated yesterday so I would expect more action next week..