Diversified Energy Share Discussion Threads

[justiceforthemany] 15/11/2023 07:24

Excellent results.
Nothing to warrant this ridiculous short seller driven crash.

[laurence llewelyn binliner] 15/11/2023 07:11

Production confirmedDividend maintained Debt leverage 2.4*EBITDAUK CPI inflation down to 4.6%All set up for a good day.. :o)

[tonytyke2] 14/11/2023 14:03

Yep cassini, Bloomberg were just discussing the data and indicated an investment group had just moved forward their US rate cut prediction to June 24 now. US yields have fallen since the 1.30 p.m. news.

[cassini] 14/11/2023 13:50

Probably due to good US CPI data which might bring rate cuts nearer.

[bluemango] 14/11/2023 12:45

Bit of rumour-driven trading going on here in last hour or so?

TU tomorrow

[apollocreed1] 14/11/2023 12:21

I own DEC via Bux Markets. No overnight financing charges if you use cash for the whole position, no stamp duty and the spread is pretty small. Gains are tax free because it's technically a spread betting company.

[action] 14/11/2023 12:14

I should have bought it with ig.

[cassini] 14/11/2023 12:10

II used to not charge stamp, but finally switched to charging it. I think the consensus is that stamp is charged, but there must be some complication to leave room for argument.

Probably that is because DEC operates and is tax domiciled in the USA but is listed on the LSE.

On the other hand I believe some LSE miners are free from stamp.

[bluemango] 14/11/2023 12:08

IMHO Stamp duty is relatively insignificant in the scheme of things.

Further info is in the header to this thread and yes some brokers charge SD and others don't.

[action] 14/11/2023 11:46

Who is correct pls? Anyone?

[action] 14/11/2023 11:46

Hl charging stamp duty on this. Ig don't.

[1knocker] 14/11/2023 11:31

I'll leave you to worry about the 'minuchi', lab. At 65.93 I could not resist buying a few more today. But that really must be my last top up. There are no certainties.

[lab305] 14/11/2023 08:47

Discussion of the minutiae of this company is akin to rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. They don't do what they say anymore and have not for some time..This is a year when they have been selling gas through hedging at far above the prevailing rate and therefore should be in clover. However it appears that they are short of money and unable to complete more than a small fraction of a second failed buyback scheme. The decline rate has rocketed over the past five years but some posters would have us believe that this is a good performance. The share price says it all. Fifteen months of fairly steep decline leaving it today at virtually the IPO price of 2017, and yet after all this it is somehow not their fault ! Wake up people.

[desha] 13/11/2023 17:21

I think 3.79 may be the average hedge price for 2023 contracts and 3.53 is the weighted average for all open hedges 2023-2025 (or longer...)

[laurence llewelyn binliner] 13/11/2023 17:13

#Tag57, quite likely yes as it was incorporated into our modelling..

The Tanos acquisition includes a hedge book over 60% of 2023 production at an average floor price of USD3.80, but we do not know the other 40%..

[tag57] 13/11/2023 17:06

LLB, could the increased hedge pricing be the effect of the Tanos III acquisition as IIRC they had better hedging than DEC?

[laurence llewelyn binliner] 13/11/2023 16:50

#Keesp1966, I note the most recent September download pages 10/29 conflict wrt hedge prices, the 3.79 figure also conflicts with the 2023 quarterly average at 3.53..? and the earnings presentation also quotes 3.53, so we will need to wait for clarity on 15th.., if you have used the 3.79 number this will clearly look worse than it would have for revenue reduction..

A busy day with IMB/VOD reporting tomorrow, 2 is enough in 1 morning.. :o)

[keesp1966] 13/11/2023 16:19

Furthermore: why is the company selling production assets while they were buying assets in the past?

All things added up its clear to me they have a debt issue. Disappointing to see they are not transparant about this subject and on how to solve this.

[keesp1966] 13/11/2023 16:11

Hi llb, let’s hope we get clear answers with the coming trading update. They used to be transparant on what was happening in the company but that has changed this year.
Why no acquisitions?
Why this meaningless buybacks?
Why cfo departure?
Whats the roadmap for debt repayment to stay within 2,5 leverage ratio?
How firm is dividend level?

And btw: 2023 average hedge price is 3,79 in latest presentation which is more than 10% higher than 2024

[elpirata] 13/11/2023 13:18

Has Dec acknowledged/accepted davidosh's upcoming Mello London event, anyone know?

[asp5] 13/11/2023 11:32

I would assume the "Production Update" RNS from early October will be confirmed. DEC sold non-operated assets, so Q3 production is expected in the range 134-138 Mboepd.

As these assets were not operated by DEC hence no SAM, I am curious if these sales have a beneficial impact to the decline rate.

It is important for DEC to show that debt dynamics are under control. Will also be interesting if they provide any guidance on the potential value to be unlocked from non operating asset sales. Some large numbers (~$500M) mentioned by one of the asset managers holding DEC.

[laurence llewelyn binliner] 13/11/2023 08:23

#Keesp1966, we will find out Wednesday morning.. :o)

But even if revenues are lower due to decline, they would be offset by the reduced debt load, perhaps keeping the ratio about the same..?

Then there are the new partially completed wells in the Tanos deal coming online adding to volumes..?

Sept presentation shows 85% at 3.53 average hedge prices locked in for 2023
Sept presentation shows 80% at 3.31 average hedge prices locked in for 2024 (-6%)
Sept presentation shows 70% at 3.26 average hedge prices locked in for 2025

Hopefully we will get a fresh presentation and we can compare the forward hedge books..

[keesp1966] 12/11/2023 19:12

I’ve included the Tanos deal in my calculations. I expect Adj EBITDA for 2023 to be around 579 MUSD and for 2024 around 430 MUSD (no further acquisitions) because of 10% decline and more than 10% lower hedgeprices.

I dont think they can lower their debt level to stay within 2,5x ebitda unless they sell more undeveloped acreage / assets or reduce divi payments

[laurence llewelyn binliner] 12/11/2023 17:23

Also consider the Tanos deal was adding FCF/EBITDA of +20%/19%, with some unfinished wells, and 60% of the hedge book we acquired was already locked in at USD3.80..

December 2022 exit rate of 141 Mboepd | 846 MMcfepd
Q1-2023 exit rate of 145 Mboepd | 872 MMcfepd
Q2-2023 exit rate of 144 Mboepd | 864 MMcfepd
Q3-2023 exit rate 134-138 Mboepd 805-830 MMcfepd tbc 15.11.2023

[fluffchucker1] 12/11/2023 16:31

Have you considered the reduced total debt outstanding? Here is some analysis

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