Cellcast Share Discussion Threads

[the analyst] 08/6/2010 12:36

LOL, we had this conversation before

I would have bought another couple of million back in the 1p days, if I thought I could get away with declaring it to my broker (who also happens to be TDW) and leaving it up to them to fill in the TR1 form and send it off.

There is simply no way that TDW would declare an interest for a private holder, given they are not obliged (or asked) to do so

Those two million shares would be showing a nice profit of over £60k now, but I just don't fancy having my name released via rns with regard to a major shareholding, so chose not to buy more...

[stefanos2] 08/6/2010 12:19

Kiop

Charlie is correct, the obligation falls upon you to declare your holding. There is no obligation on the nominee (TDW in your case) to disclose it

"3.37 Custodians or nominees of holdings: Custodians or nominees who can only exercise the voting rights attached to such shares under instructions given to them in writing or by electronic means do not have to disclose."


Here is an example of a completed TR-1 form, where it clearly differentiates between the person who is obliged to declare (the investor, i.e. you) and the shareholder (the nominee, i.e. TDW)

"3. Full name of person(s) subject to the notification obligation3:" [private investor]

"4. Full name of shareholder(s) (if different from 3.)4:" [nominees]


You need to fill out a TR-1 form as soon as you can:


I suspect it's the case that you are simply naive about the rules and possibly inexperienced as an investor, so you will be fine. However, now you have been told on these bulletin boards you can not use ignorance as an excuse for not filling out the form, as the person obliged to declare

So, you really do need to get yourself a TR-1 form filled in and sent out asap! (that is, if you do indeed have as many shares as you claim).

Hope this helps!

Stefanos

[charlie] 08/6/2010 10:54

The obligation to disclose a 3% shareholding is an obligation of the shareholder, not the broker. Any beneficial holder of over 3% should send a notification direct to the company.

If the obligation was the broker's, anyone could avoid it just by buying their shares through several different brokers!

[lyonst5] 08/6/2010 09:25

I see that 500k of buys have gone through.. kiop ?

There goes my chance for now at getting some more at 4p.

[kiop] 07/6/2010 17:21

Thats correct i bought the first million at circa 2.5p then bought up to 4p. Sold a few when i needed to juggle cash and continued adding..most of the buys before the results were mine and some earlier buys at 5p over the last few months.

No its not my reported holding that was RNESED

As mentioned before twice i have told TDwaterhouse i hold over 3% and twice they have took no action..So i will continue to add when i see fit.. At some point i expect my holding will be notified, till then i have played it by the book.. TDW seem pretty inept in some areas..

[the analyst] 07/6/2010 13:55

I can't really speak for someone else, but I think I remember kiop saying he sold a few of that first 3p tranche (to buy more blnx?) and then more recently bought them back again plus more which resulted in that last rise from 4.5p to 6.5p

If so, the figures in the post earlier would all add-up, imo

[watchout2] 07/6/2010 13:46

If it was then i apologise !

Just dont get how he can be at a loss, he got the first million
for under 3p !

[the analyst] 07/6/2010 13:33

Hi Kiop,

Good to see you still holding. The way BLNX is rising, you will soon be able to take all of NCs CLTV shares off him (and more!) - I wonder, at what stage would the risk-reward comparative between BLNX and CLTV make you want to move funds over? That prospect must be starting to look quite compelling, no?

By the way, was the announcement on the 18th yours by any chance?

[the analyst] 07/6/2010 13:28

Yup, I agree, the LNG threads are truly disgusting to read, with a few posters taking great joy in other peoples misfortune. Burgerbarwoman being one of those posters, unfortunately.

Personally, I don't see how you could get fun out of seeing other people in pain, but there you go, society is full of all-sorts, both good and bad

[stefanos2] 07/6/2010 13:10

I just took a look at your posts over at LNG, burgerbarwoman and I have to say I am deeply unimpressed.

Spending weeks and months mocking people that have lost money is very poor form and if that's your idea of 'fun', well, I think you are really letting yourself down. You might consider asking yourself some serious questions about your character.

[burgerbarwomen] 07/6/2010 09:08

Most professional investors are getting out... if they've not done so already.

[lyonst5] 07/6/2010 08:05

On the point of notifiable interest, i asked my broker this question and was told it was up to me to inform them (broker) when i have exceeded 3%, if not the market would not be told.

[watchout2] 07/6/2010 07:58

I filtered burgarbarwomen yesterday.

Have to say i'm extremely dubious of your posts too kiop !

Firstly you would have a notable holding, Craven dont seem to have a
problem telling the market when his stake changes so why not yours kiop !

Also when you were buying Cltv you got a huge amount of them well under
current prices so no way at the current bid would they be showing a profit.

Get out of that one !

[burgerbarwomen] 07/6/2010 07:41

BellFruit

Sometimes I like to have some fun with posters (LNG) but my comments here are factual, serious and represent my opinion.

Whatever you might think about me the Bluebird issue is real... like it or not!

[kiop] 07/6/2010 01:46

My apologies Burgar bar woman its 3.8 million..KEEP WATCHING LOTS COMING HERE:)

View My Orders Refresh Prices Export to Excel Print Reset Columns Description Filter:



Symbol Links Qty Description Mid Price Price Change Market Value Book Cost Gain/Loss Corp. Action sedol depot price bookcost bcMajorCurrencySymbol bcMinorCurrencySymbol priceMajorCurrencySymbol priceMinorCurrencySymbol priceCurrencyCode figaroPrice figaroCurrency



150000 AGCERT INT'S' £0.01 n/a £1,500.00 £1,905.12 £-405.12 B076464 B 0.01 1905.12 £ GBP 0.01 GBP
BLNX 2666000 BLINKX 36.50p 3.50p £973,090.00 £369,549.73 £603,540.27 B1WBW23 B 36.50 369549.73 £ p GBX 0.37 GBP
CLTV 3830000 CELLCAST GRP 4.50p 0.13p £172,350.00 £178,982.53 £-6,632.53

[kiop] 07/6/2010 01:33

Burgar Bar has sold and now wants back in, unfortunately he isnt going to be able to pay much less than 5p.. So i suspect he will end up back at zero profit.

But yes agreed his character is little above that of a sewer rat, i hold 3.5 million of these and i think the results show remarkable progress. Who needs fruit now whilst its still ripening??

Not me will wait for it to fall off the CLTV tree at 20p plus..

Same has happened and is happening with BLINKXs again my holding there 2.6 million was showing a £100k loss before results i bought right up to them.. Now its just shy of £600k profit.

CLTV will be similar percentile wise.. The likes of Burger bar are the drift wood these boards collect.. Blinkxs has a bunch all still screaming negativity in the face of collosal progress:)

[bellfruit] 07/6/2010 00:39

Not a holder here, but FYI, you should take a look at burgerwoman's posts on other threads to judge his character.

Once you have done that you might like to assess whether you think he has any credibility as a serious investor or is just another BB troll





Those are just a few thread titles, but if you delve a bit deeper into the recent LNG threads you might be enlightened by the sort of thing you read

I'm not judging, just asking others to do their research into this poster and then judge for themselves

[pink/e] 06/6/2010 22:24

trixter - yes still holding ASC from 2003. Had my reservations with management, but Nick quickly resolved those issues and all these years later there is still a lot of growth to come.

You still holding asc, analyst?

With regard to Bluebird, you should know they have VERY close ties with Cellcast, much more than the 'girls' agreement that is public domain

The fact that Bluebird are entering the market is an excellent development for CLTV, although I'll leave it up to the scaremongers to figure out why. Somehow, I don't think they are seeing the big picture, but you have to understand the fear of having sold out and then seeing (in time) the price go above and beyond the price they sold at.

Remember, there is nothing worse than selling out too soon, so they will continue to attack in pure fear, in hope of getting back in at a lower price.

Seen it too many times before, especially at ASC

Well, my interest here is only passing, but if others here (you know who) have heard anything, you have my email, give me a buzzz

[burgerbarwomen] 06/6/2010 20:41

So where did this info come from... lol

Back to reality... did anyone notice that cheeky 100k sell late Friday at 4.25p?

BTW

Canaan may simply sell their stake to another interested party, leaving CLTV shareholders high and dry, desperately hoping that the imminent launch of the Bluebird Freeview adult channels doesn't impact on margins too much!

Personally I think that if Bluebird fly away with market share, the risk is that the UK business slips back into a loss making position H2.

[pink/e] 06/6/2010 20:31

Well I'm hearing that Canaan are already working on an exit for CAH. Much closer than last week's press release is letting on

If that (speculation, presumably) turns out to be true then why didn't the management tell us so in the results. Is this typical behaviour from them?

If Canaan do suddenly find an exit, then suddenly we could end up with £10m or even £20m in the bank, would that seem likely?

[davydoo] 04/6/2010 18:42

After all yesterdays activity, and talk of posters here buying and selling, there looks like there was only 5 trades today across lse and plus, a small one being mine.

Wonder if this is similar of other shares on results day?

It suggests to me a very engaged shareholder base, but maybe over the coming days we'll see if analysis by non holders attracts more buyers or not.

[topgunns] 04/6/2010 10:24

Fair enough burger. Feel free to post here on the day we hit 20p.