Aviva Share Discussion Threads

[tornado12] 08/4/2019 08:34

Doubled my holding today. I don’t see massive risk here at all and with my average current 400p without the Divi coming next month , I think is a good move.

[samwn1] 07/4/2019 23:22

What's the weather got to do with it?

[whatsup32] 07/4/2019 17:49

X div 11th April. Hopefully a nice clime mon, tue ,wed

[edmundshaw] 06/4/2019 22:31

buywell you could learn something from these olde farts. More informative than some other hot air around here...

[danielbird193] 06/4/2019 20:00

Growth vs. income is a false distinction. Total return is all that matters. If you need cash, sell down some holdings. If you don't, reinvest for growth.

Keep it simple stupid.

[uppompeii] 06/4/2019 19:36

Good point. My Aviva holding has cost me nothing. Not from dividends, but from trading it's reasonably predictable price moves. Often I'd take 10 or 20p's, sometimes hold for more. Best was from £1.70 in 2008 or so. Not sure what that makes my annual divi %.

[kenmitch] 06/4/2019 16:40

John Lee, the first ISA millionaire, now gets back in dividends every year more than his ISA stake of £129,000.

i.e every year his return on dividends alone is more than 100%.

Puts some of the nonsense being posted here about dividends in to perspective doesn't it?

[yf23_1] 06/4/2019 14:10

If you have enough to retire already why risk it for more ?
It's not necessarily about dividends but volatility (in either direction).
You can always sell capital to get income.

[matchupitchu] 06/4/2019 12:28

Absolutely ! And folks strategy would naturally change over time as there investment outcomes change...(growth v income, risk v reward)...and indeed I love to read of new strategies to consider..."steal with pride".....when I come across one that I agree with !

[engelbert1969] 06/4/2019 12:24

Haha Matchupitchu, yes indeed. But I regularly reevaluate my strategy and - for me - it's good to see a broad range of opinions to help that. Even if the outcome is I stay with the strategy I've got.

[matchupitchu] 06/4/2019 11:59

I'm always amused when these boards have folks pontificating about the right way to invest.....the simple truth being...if u had the best method u would be super rich and not posting on these boards....

[gaffer73] 06/4/2019 10:30

Well that depends on when you buy and sell. A lot of people make a lot of money trading ftse 100 shares as well as receiving the divi's

[buywell2] 06/4/2019 09:41

I was not trying to ramp Henderson UK Small Caps fund or SDI

My posts have been to try to expand advfn more 'open minded' investors to the advantages that getting invested in the 'right' UK small cap have over old tired FTSE Dividend paying shares like this dinosaur .

Hence my post was wasted on all you olde farts here counting your yearly pittance

But to advfn newbes ... I say this:

Capital Appreciation is the name of the game in clever investing
New Investors do NOT get wealthy by buying dividend paying FTSE 100 stocks
To get rich a new investor has to take some risk to get a good reward
That means doing lots of research and learning how the game is played




yf23_15 Apr '19 - 16:44 - 24048 of 24053

There is no point to buywell's posts, one wonders why he's here.

I'm sure there's plenty of people on this thread who are seasoned investors so they really don't need a condescending rich narcissist to point out the bleedin obvious.

[this_time_its_different] 06/4/2019 08:01

Better to watch how quickly a company can grow earnings per share and then decide how much of those earnings you want in income

[this_time_its_different] 06/4/2019 07:58

If you want dividend income, there is nothing stopping you selling a few shares of fb each year with a broker that charges no fees like freetrade, just the fx charge to pay.

[yf23_1] 05/4/2019 16:44

There is no point to buywell's posts, one wonders why he's here.

I'm sure there's plenty of people on this thread who are seasoned investors so they really don't need a condescending narcissist to point out the bleedin obvious.

[samwn1] 05/4/2019 14:56

Buywell 24038 :

'The other day in the Telegraph it talked about the Henderson Small UK Cap Fund achieving over 35% in the last year or so.'

I'm in Henderson Smaller Companies (HSL) as well a Aviva. HSL isn't as spectacular as the Telegraph item claims. I went in at 862 in October 2018 and it dropped to ~725 by December and has only recovered to 843 today.

It has done well during 2019 but not compared to it's peak of ~975 in July 2018 …..

[uppompeii] 05/4/2019 12:13

Not bad when its many, many multiples of 1000. I'm happy with that.How many cars do I need?

[kenmitch] 05/4/2019 11:43

There are hundreds of shares that do better than Aviva. Obviously.So what’s your point? I hold Aviva at a profit and other shares that are doing better. Again. So what. Anyone can find a share that has done better EXCEPT for THE best performer on the market.

FTSE 100 share Anglo American has gone up 10 times in less than 3 years. That and many other examples of very big FTSE100 winners shows FTSE shares can also multi bag.

[buywell2] 05/4/2019 10:55

Let me explain this chart as I don't think some understand it

It's a COMPARISON chart

It means that say someone had invested 4500 pounds in each company 3 years ago

Today the moneys in each would be worth

SDI = 21,500

AV. = 4,500







But of course you savvy AV. investors would have got those lovely 5% plus dividends on your 4000 pounds worth of shares = at least another 1000 pounds , not bad eh

[tornado12] 05/4/2019 10:47

I get your point buywell but with strong FTSE companies giving already > 6% with a strong longer term certainty I don’t need to take such risks. The share price growth for me is a bonus and not the essential ingredients as a long term investor

[dr biotech] 05/4/2019 10:28

Me neither. One of buywells other ramping efforts had gone from 18p to 3.6p I get around 20k a year tax free in dividends. It allows me to work part time. Not without bumps of course - had some small amounts in Saga/Centrica but try to be careful not to get into too many value traps.

[buywell2] 05/4/2019 10:23

If you chose the right ones you don't need to

They get acquired

Its all about research as I am sure you know