Abrdn Share Discussion Threads

[gaygay3] 25/10/2024 07:54

Great work from JW can’t see him lasting long how long will it take for the outflows to stop its been going on for a long time now any thoughts anybody

[spawny100] 25/10/2024 07:47

Surely strong support at 140? I'm doing a Jim and sitting on my hands waiting to buy!

[suetballs] 25/10/2024 07:45

Why on earth have I stuck with this share - total stupidity on my part.
Suet

[dd776] 25/10/2024 07:45

10 % divi. Couldn't resist, have added

[action] 25/10/2024 07:43

Falling like a stone. May be 136p...

[carpingtris] 25/10/2024 07:33

Spud - that or nails into the coffin..

[mister md] 25/10/2024 07:31

Unfortunately there are plenty of other asset managers in the same position ...

[spud] 25/10/2024 07:19

Is that the for sale board being hammered into the swampy ground surrounding ABDN I can hear......?spud

[jubberjim] 25/10/2024 07:14

Think next time UBS issue a note I will pay a bit more attention

Good luck

[mister md] 25/10/2024 07:05

Never catch a falling knife etc, but couldn't resist buying a load more at 144p.

[skinny] 25/10/2024 05:33

From yesterday's Times :-



From Today's Times :-

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[my retirement fund] 24/10/2024 18:13

Presumably, a lot of high net worth individuals either leaving the UK or repartriating funds post labour election and absolutely certainly the rush of individuals taking their pensions far earlier than the would otherwise had done in order to lock in their 25% taxvfree entitlements.Bloomberg: The outflows were mainly due to redemptions from its equities funds also fixed-income also seeing about £800 million of outflows driven by single mandate redemptions.

[saltaire111] 24/10/2024 17:07

I’ve bought some today. £20k worth. Buying for the divi. Hope they can sustain it.

Salty

[skinny] 24/10/2024 16:22

My last buy here was @137.25p as recently as April.

I'm still down @25% on my total holding, so won't be adding just yet.

A frustrating share to say the least!

[yf23_1] 24/10/2024 16:18

have to agree with "thebutler" too.

[spud] 24/10/2024 16:12

Preparing to take more at 100p if/should it drop that far. spud

[pierre oreilly] 24/10/2024 15:39

Yes Mcun, whatever they try to do to anything has to be pragmatic and implementable. Playing with isas does seem quite complex to implement, except the straightforward annual and lifetime limits. It's ok us on bbs having ideas of what to do, but often they are too complex to implement. Anyhow, my son wants something complex to do and has had enough of sitting at home doing nothing, so they could throw some work his way.

Agreed, big hitters easy to implement are paye ni (promise breaker) and vat. Sil (exteacher at Harrow, thinks not many (at Harrow) are on the line between paying their feee and not paying them if vat were added. Maybe other public schools are different.

Thinking about it, I take back what i said before. The gov often tries implementing systems which are not pragmatic nor implementable!

[bbd2] 24/10/2024 15:27

Just picked up a few in case this is the bottom( maybe wishful thinking)!

[pierre oreilly] 24/10/2024 15:22

Net, Don't look back in anger

tomorrow if it does.

See what it's doing in a couple of years. It's a good value company with a decent divi which may get chopped 50% if the company doesn't generate enough cash. That's worst case I should imagine. More likely to bounce back in a few days/weeks/months and keep the divi. Churn means institutional sellers probably want to buy back in, and close their shorts. They have less idea than we do, but they have billions of opm to play around with.

[mcunliffe1] 24/10/2024 15:16

W'ont take too many to vote differently Pierre. This lot only mustered 20% of the electorate. Unfortunately, that translated into a large number of seats given the split in the other votes.

MRF: I wondered how long it would take you to descent to your default position of rudeness. At least we are spared (for the moment) the profanities. Why do differing views need to be reinforced with venom?

I wouldn't worry overly Pierre on the cash held thus far in an ISA. There's no way the govt. could simply take a chunk of it. Applying a lifetime upper limit sounds fine, but how would they handle those with more than the limit? Would withdrawals be considered always to be from that above-the-limit amount and hence taxed at your marginal rate? Would Stocks & Shares ISA's be taxed in a similar manner should encashment and then withdrawal occur?

Given the fiasco we will witness when the vat rate is applied to private education it will become evident that the mechanics of extracting tax from people by means other than PAYE, N.I. and vat is complex and greatly counter-productive.

[netcurtains] 24/10/2024 15:13

bought a few..... Sorry. It will go down now...

[pierre oreilly] 24/10/2024 15:03

If you put the numbers in the boE inflation calculator, you'd need £25400 (not 30k) today for something worth 20k in 2017. (I think the originally poster of the 30k was going through a breakdown at the time).

There's an obvious loss of revenue to the gov from isas, but I bet it pales into insignificance with the 25% (is it?) gov contribution to pension contributions. Maybe both are in for a big raid from Reeves.

(anyone have the figs for gov 'costs' of isas v pensions (pref from someone who doesn't just make up numbers to suit their case)

Anyhow, not much we can do about it now - i expect some voters will vote differently next time.

[jubberjim] 24/10/2024 14:59

Have got back on board

146 85 before costs

Still have funds available but this fall looks overdone now

Good luck all

[marketmuser] 24/10/2024 14:47

Lifetime limits are daft...thankfully the pension one was finally removed.They cause a problem with investment gains and of course never get moved for inflation. And that's before you think about what a pound was worth when you put it in versus what it is worth 10 years later or whatever.As pointed out already the 20k limit would in real terms be 30k so not moving the annual limit is already reducing the value of it.